Nostradamus quatrain 10.72 - deception and fulfillment

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[Truth666]

Nostradamus success

Most people have heard of Nostradamus, the 16th century “prophet” who was able to “see into the future.”Almost 500 years after his death, Nostradamus´s books are STILL selling, so there are plenty of people who must think Nostradamus was on to something. 

Never before in the History of Mankind did so many people expected the furfillment of a prophecy at a given moment as in the month of July 1999, the solar eclipse of August 11, 1999 and the end of the millenium. 

Nostradamus Prophecies comprise the only piece of literature other than the Bible that has  been continuously in print since 1555.

How Nostradamus did it

All quatrains except 10.72

But how did Nostradamus do it? How could he predict the future? It´s actually pretty easy once you understand what he was doing. 

First of all, using one of basic brainwash techniques. The same technique used for example by astrology: a combination of suggestion (THE basic brainwash technique), cryptic description and known facts.

He simply wrote everything in the form of cryptic four line poems (Quatrains)  and let people interpret them after something happened. Here´s an example of one of these poems that some people believe foretells the rise of Hitler…

"Beasts ferocious with hunger will cross the rivers,
The greater part of the battlefield will be against Hister.
Into a cage of iron will the great one be drawn,
When the child of Germany observes nothing."

Now your first impulse after looking at that may be "Histler, Germany, battlefield? Holy moly, he just predicted the Third Reich!" Well "Histler" actually was a region near the Danube river. Beyond that, what else do we have here except a bunch of randomly throw together sentences that could be interpreted a dozen different ways? After the fact, it´s easy to pick one passage out of hundreds in an attempt to prove Nostradamus´s prescience. But look at it like this; could anyone have predicted the rise of Hitler, in say 1920, based on what Nostradamus wrote? Of course, that wouldn´t have been possible. All of Nostradamus's prophecies (except Quatraine 10.72) are meaningless until something has actually happened and you can look at Nostradamus's words retrospectively.

The success of Nostradamus deception reflects the state of the society

Anyone not brainwashed should be able to figure after spending 10 minutes perusing his material.

In order to measure the intensity of brainwash under which a society is and how brainwashed that society is, a good unit is the degree of success of such techniques. Just look at how much horoscopes you find (is there any MSM women magazine without them?) and how many people (especially women) read them ...

The denial of God's intervention reflects the state of the society

Quatraine 10.72 - How Nostradamus did it

This is the only exception to the golden rule of the deception technique described above. A precise date is given: the seventh month of 1999, i.e. anywhere from July 14 through 13 August 1999 in the gregorian calendar that was introduced after Nostradamus wrote

"In the year 1999 and seven months,
From the sky will come a great King of terror.
The great king of Angoumois will be resuscitated,
Before and after Mars reigns by good fortune."

Four known observations and facts caused Nostradamus in this case to risk giving a precise date: 

• Mankind gradually moving into the path of destruction.
• The date for the birth of Christ associated the end of the millemium as a deadline for that process.
• Total solar eclipse visible in Europe at the end of the seventh month of the last year of the millenium (July 29, i.e. August 11, 1999) 
• The reign of notable Mars oppositions began in March 1997. The reign ends in 2005, as Mars becomes considerably dimmer.

Prophecy becomes reality ...

At first sight it seems incredible that Quatrain 10.72, the only prediction that Nostradamus ever risked, became true.

In face of the extreme degree of brainwash and the great expectations associated with this prophecy, how can you be surprised that God intervened one more time to help humans, to let the prophecy fulfill in the time frame specified?

... and yet nobody wanted to see it

Still before the end of the millenium, it should be clear how the prophecy was fulfilled. And yet, even today, five and a half years later, I realised that there's still no comprehensive explanation of these events, as you can check for instance with the google search used as URL  to this article.

[.cnI redruM]

Hatred-Powered Howard
Will lead a party of lamesters
The follow him like lemmings
Off of nearest cliff

[Truth666]

I was hoping that someone would pose intelligent questions, like about (d')effrayeur

• In Nostradamus time, the word "effrayeur" meant "he, who chases away fright" : exactly the opposite of its current meaning.
• " d' " was not used in the first editions of "Les Propheties".
• Why do all Americans translators use the word "terror" to translate "effrayeur" ? Nostradamus used the word "effrayeur" derived from the verb "effrayer" (to frighten). If he had wanted to, he could have used the word "terreur" which corresponds to the verb "terroriser" (to terrorise). In Modern French, the words "effrayer" and "terroriser" mean the same thing but the latter is far stronger than the former. It corresponds to the paroxysm of fear : a rat may scare (effrayer) someone but it can not terrorize (terroriser) them ! It may therefore be said that the use of the word "terror" in the translation is disproportionate and not justified either in Old or Modern French.
  

[Truth666]

... or  like about Mars

• shouldn't it be interpreted as War?
• or is it the month of March? (in French Mars means both the planet and the month)

[TheBrotherhood]

"At first sight it seems incredible that Quatrain 10.72, the only prediction that Nostradamus ever risked, became true."

I see no prediction by Nostryl with 10.72.

What exactly did the charlatan predict?

[Truth666]

See above. 10.72 = Century X, Quatrain 72

[Truth666]

Let's check what the current situation in this thread is:
I presented, for each cryptic word,
- what Nostradamus meant
- the main interpretations for those words presented to the masses, while they waited for the 1999 events to unfold

[Truth666]

I can add that no matter which of these interpretations you take, what I said holds:  the only prediction that the fraud known as Nostradamus risked was fullfilled.

And I'm still waiting for someone to explain how. I thought it would not be so difficult...

[Truth666]

Result - These are the possible english translations:

The year thousand nine hundred ninety nine seven [ month / months ],
From [ the sky / heaven ] there will come a great King [ of fright / who chases away fright]:
To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,
Before after [ Mars / March ] to reign by good luck.

[Truth666]

And this is what most of the people got as translation

The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror.
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

[Studebaker Hawk]

Hum...

[AnAmericanMother]

The final word on ol' Mike, as far as I'm concerned, is from Cecil Adams (Ed Zotti) of The Straight Dope.

Executive summary: "Nostradamus did for bull$#!t what Stonehenge did for rocks."

[Fiddlstix]

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[Truth666]

More help about the obvious interpretation for king of Angolmois:

• Angoumois (äNgoomwä´) , region and former province, W France. Angoulême is the historic capital and chief city. When Francis I, formerly the count of Angoulême, became king in 1515, Angoumois was definitively incorporated into the French crown lands.
• Henri II, the king of France at the time the Prophecies were published, was the son of ...
• ... King Francis I or François I of France, "...also called (until 1515) FRANCIS OF ANGOULÊME,  (b. Sept. 12, 1494, Cognac, Fr.--d. March 31, 1547, Rambouillet), king of France (1515-47), the first of five monarchs of the Angoulême branch of the House of Valois..." [Encyclopaedia Britannica].
• Prince Charles was elected Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, making him ruler of Austria, Spain, Germany and the Netherlands in 1519.  Charles V was the last German emperor to be crowned by the pope.
• Nineteen years old, secretive, cool-headed, and a clever politician, the Emperor Charles V had his mind set on a universal monarchy. His chief obstacle was the King of France, Francis I. A mortal hatred emerged from this rivalry, leading to 27 years of savage warfare, interrupted by truces that were invariably violated. From http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=2417

• On February 24, 1525, Charles V led his forces against the army of King François I at Pavia, twenty miles from Milan, Italy. After a six-hour battle, King François was captured by imperial troops and the French army was defeated. After lengthy negotiations, the French King agreed to the terms of surrender to the Emperor. He was released from the custody of Emperor Charles V one year later.

• On May 5, 1527 Spanish, German, and Italian troops under the banner of the Holy Roman Emperor swarmed into Rome. Until December, when they were finally dispersed by plague, these troops plundered, tortured, raped, and murdered in the defenseless capital of Christendom. From The Sack of Rome, by Luigi Guicciardini

[TheBrotherhood]

"See above. 10.72 = Century X, Quatrain 72"

I saw it and read it before posing my question, which you did not answer.

Again: what did the charlatan Nostryl predict in quatrain 72?

[Truth666]

I explained before what did the charlatan Nostradamus "predict" in quatrain 72.
I guess you you mean
- How did all those possible interpretations of his "prediction" come true?
This is what I hoped for that somebody else would explain but didn't happen so far.
If nobody else will provide the correct answer(s) this week, I will do it, may God will.

[Slyfox]

ok, who's the King of Terror?

[boris]

Turn around, go back down, back the way you came
Can't you see that flash of fire
Ten times brighter than the day
And behold a mighty city broken in the dust again
Oh, God, pride of man broken in the dust again

Turn around, go back down, back the way you came
Babylon is laid to waste, Egypt's buried in her shame
The mighty men are all beaten down
Their kings are fallen in the waste
Oh, God, pride of man broken in the dust again

Turn around, go back down, back the way you came
Terror is on every side, lo our leaders are dismayed
For those who place their faith in fire
In fire their faith shall be repayed
Oh, God, pride of man broken in the dust again

Turn around, go back down, back the way you came
And shout a warnin' unto the nation that the sword of God is raised
Yes, Babylon, that mighty city, rich in treasure, wide in fame
Oh, God, pride of man broken in the dust again

Oh oh-oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

And it shall cause your tower to fall
Make of you a pyre of flame
Oh you, who dwell on many waters
Rich in treasure, wide in fame
You bow unto your, your God of gold
Your pride of might shall be ashamed
For only God can lead his people
Back unto the earth again
Oh, God, pride of man broken in the dust again
Thy holy mountain be restored
Have mercy on the people - the people, Lord
Ah-ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
--Quicksilver Messenger Service, circa 1970

[VlPu]

From January 2007:

Quatrain X.72, deception and fulfillment - the true story was explained first by Illuminati End Times Prophet December 2004.

Almost TWO and half years later, what were the consequences of the words of TRUTH? The only track I could find was in a Discovery Channel Documentary from 2006. If you have seen the June 2006 Discovery Channel documentary Nostradamus: The Truth, check in first post where did they get the note about "deffrayeur", the key to understand the real explanation. Of course the name of Putin was not mentioned though... But at least it was a premiere for a mass media outlet to mention the key word...