Gun nuts' have no real excuse(gun grabbing weenie barf alert 4 bags minimum)

dailycampus.com ^ | 2 1 05 | Robert Schiering

[IGOTMINE]

Yes.

Registration leads to eventual confiscation. NUMEROUS examples of this. (Ask NYC gun owners if you don't believe me.)

[Fee]

She resisted with words. She told one of the muggers "What are you going to do, shoot me?" Muggers response, kapow.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

...the decision to commit crime is a rational cost-benefit evaluation...

Not for people who know right from wrong.

But morality is so un-PC for the tatoo-and-nipple-ring set..

[MileHi]

Cool! Source and year?

[MileHi]

Does anyone have a problem with registering their firearms and if so, why?

YEP! It's none of the governments damn biasness what I have.

I'm asking because one of the problems in police work is that when a firearm that has been used in a crime is recovered, the ownership trail is often non-existant.

Tough. I won't risk future confiscation just so some homicide cops job is marginally easier.

[Dan from Michigan]

I posted this thread on Glascow

The source was either the Michigan State Police or the FBI - 2003 for most, 2004 for my county.

[MileHi]

biasness = business

[stevio]

Should you be telling us this?

[MileHi]

Thanks, Dan.

[Dan from Michigan]

I am a multiple weapon owner and a former Public Safety Commissioner here in Florida. I have a question for everyone. Does anyone have a problem with registering their firearms and if so, why?

Yes.

1. It does not reduce crime. My state has registration. It also has several cities with very high crime rates. Detroit, Flint, Saginaw, Highland Park, and Inkster.

2. Registration leads on confiscation. It's happened in Chicago, DC, California, as well as overseas.

3. It's none of the government's business if I own a firearm.

4. Waste of my tax money.

[ManHunter]

I notice that no one has responded to you yet. While I have no intention of getting into a debate on the forum, I'll answer your question. Yes, I object to gun registration. My objections are two-fold: historical and practical. Historically, registration has preceded virtually every seizure of guns/weapons in modern human history. Practically, the Constitution, to which I swore an oath to support and defend and on which I rely as a guarantee of many freedoms states, "...shall not be infringed." I think that's pretty clear.

[blues_guitarist]

[papertyger]

I'm asking because one of the problems in police work is that when a firearm that has been used in a crime is recovered, the ownership trail is often non-existant. Yes, criminals buy stolen guns, but if a crime is committed in Florida with a firearm that was owned by a person in Vermont, knowing that connection will at least provide investigators another avenue of inquiry -even if the firearm was legally purchased and stolen from the customer.

Ignoring all the boilerplate canards underpinning your question, I can tell you for my part I just don't need that crime solved that bad.

[epow]

Suicides, homicides and accidental deaths far outnumber instances where someone has successfully used a firearm to defend themselves or their loved ones. Either these findings have not reached the NRA, or they are deliberately turning a blind eye to them.

I doubt that anyone on the forum has enough time to correct all the lies and deliberate misrepresentations in that POS article, but the first outright lie that jumped out at me is the one quoted above. Professor Gary Kleck of Florida State University has made at least two exhaustive studies on the incidence of defensive firearms use by private citizens against criminal attack, and his research indicates a figure of around 2 million such incidents each year. The vast majority of those incidents do NOT result in firing the weapon, much less in death or injury to any involved party, and only a small percentage are even reported to LE agencies. The total annual number of all firearms related deaths, including both deliberate and accidental shootings, is well under 2% of the annual number of incidents in which firearms are used in self defense.

Kleck's data has been backed up by similar figures obtained by the research of a University of Chicago professor whose name escapes me at the moment, and those data were not hidden under a bushel.

I am quite sure this hoplophobic elitist knows the results of the research as well as we do. Therefore it isn't just ignorance on his part when he denies and/or misrepresents that data, it's deliberate lying. But that isn't anything unexpected from his sorry ilk, lying has been their normal tactic ever since the antis began their effort to abolish our Constitutional right to arms almost a century ago.

[Dead Corpse]

Ditto. +1. "What he said..."

Ect...

The Government does not need to know how many screwdrivers I have. How many pairs of underwear. How many pairs of shoes. Nor do they need to know how much of any other type of property I have.

[shellshocked]

"only 251 were determined to be justifiable homicide"

Really? I'd like to know where he got that number.

[shellshocked]

To be a stupid liberal one must believe that there are so many killings by gun that we should ban guns, but if you want a gun to protect yourself from those doing the killing then you must be paranoid.

[Sweet_Sunflower29]

...but statistics point out that in the U.S., victims that put up a fight are typically killed

Another Kellerman fanatic.
/snicker>

If the weapon in question is a handgun, wresting control of it is much more difficult than it would be for the attacker to grasp a longer-barreled weapon, such as a shotgun or rifle. The simplest of logic dictates that dead men don't snatch guns away, and that relatively smart men who don't want to become dead men, shouldn't try.

I want them to face the fact that they are much more likely to kill their wife and children than defend them. I want them to realize that the only crime wave in this country is in homicide, a crime inextricably linked with firearms.

At the original Million Mom March, there was a speaker quoted as saying; "If someone comes at you brandishing and threatning your life with a knife or gun, say to them, "I know you're upset; we all want to be valued as human beings."

If someone is breaking into my house when he knows the probability that it is occupied with people, I can be relatively certain that my life and my children's lives are in immediate danger. Once my safety is in danger, said attacker has already tried and judged himself; if he forces me to act as executioner then so be it. His death would be on his head, not mine.

[GrandEagle]

Some tools of mine came out missing ... I would go after them.
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