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Whites are quitting cities (in Britain)
The Sun via Drudge ^ | February 10, 2005 | NIC CECIL

Posted on 02/10/2005 10:23:20 AM PST by Korth

TENS of thousands of white families are pouring out of UK cities as immigrants move in, a controversial new report claims.

The exodus is creating an increasingly divided society, says the study for independent think-tank Migrationwatch UK.

It found that 600,000 more people left London for the regions between 1993-2002 than arrived in the capital from elsewhere in Britain.

Those moving out were believed to be mainly white. In the same decade, the number of immigrants arriving in London went up by 726,000.

Migrationwatch said there were similar changes in Manchester and Birmingham. Chairman Sir Andrew Green said: “The development of increasingly ‘parallel societies’ in some of our major cities is extremely undesirable.

“Government immigration policy is exacerbating this trend.”

The report follows a study for the Greater London Authority last year which showed the proportion of whites in London fell by almost eight per cent in the 1990s.

Migrationwatch claimed the biggest population movement was from high ethnic minority areas to largely white communities.

But Keith Best — head of the Immigration Advisory Service — said: “They are making dangerous assumptions.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: black; blacks; britain; city; england; ethnicity; eurabia; europe; flight; freedom; ghetto; government; hiphop; immigration; liberty; multiculturalism; race; racial; uk; unitedkingdom; urban; white; whiteflight; whites

1 posted on 02/10/2005 10:23:21 AM PST by Korth
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To: Korth

I know that there are people moving up to Scotland, ongoing. If the trend keeps up, there will be more Englishmen there than Scots in about 10 years.


2 posted on 02/10/2005 10:26:11 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Korth
Whites are quitting cities (in Britain)

Now there's a shocker.

4 posted on 02/10/2005 10:27:02 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Korth
But Keith Best — head of the Immigration Advisory Service — said: “They are making dangerous assumptions.”

Telling the truth is a dangerous assumption?
5 posted on 02/10/2005 10:30:17 AM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Korth
Whites are quitting cities (in Britain)

P-ssies...

6 posted on 02/10/2005 10:31:19 AM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Korth

Bush's Fault...8^)


7 posted on 02/10/2005 10:31:47 AM PST by AngryJawa (230 Grains of Happy)
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To: Korth

Sounds like most of Kaliforniastan and Seattle.


8 posted on 02/10/2005 10:34:12 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America will NEVER be free as long as we have Democrats.)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
Telling the truth is a dangerous assumption?

If one is committed to a Big Lie the truth is indeed dangerous. I guess it is easy tell what this bureaucrat is committed to.

9 posted on 02/10/2005 10:35:59 AM PST by siunevada
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To: Korth
This "white flight" has occurred for a lot longer in the United States, as far back as the 1940s, when the GI Bill encouraged mass construction of new homes in suburbs from Long Island to the San Fernando Valley. The article does not say if the white Britons were leaving their equivalent of Chicago, Detroit, or Dallas for their equivalent of Du Page County, Troy, or Plano. It may also be that they are abandoning whole sections of the United Kingdom, much as many white Californians are abandoning the entire state.
10 posted on 02/10/2005 10:38:34 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: GOP_1900AD
“Government immigration policy is exacerbating this trend.”

The question should be "what is the British government doing that causes immigrants to move to the cities?"

Here in the United States our cities are basically socialist havens that invite the underclass. Think about it: Government jobs, food, housing, schools, transportation, day care, health care and social services - all governemnt run and paid for by thoses seeking to leave. If you want to see what the socialist system would look like in America, just look at ANY inner city.

That's why people are "quitting" the cities in the U.S.

11 posted on 02/10/2005 10:42:05 AM PST by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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To: Korth
dhimmitude:

live it .......... or fight it!

12 posted on 02/10/2005 10:44:16 AM PST by Tuba Guy (happy owner of a new Taurus 'Tracker' .17 HMR)
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To: RetiredArmy

Really, Seattle is filled with white and Asian yuppies. The underclass lives in places like Renton, Skyway, and Tukwila.


13 posted on 02/10/2005 10:44:24 AM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Lowcountry

As the non-english speaking population increases in my "Sweet Home Chicago", I'm contemplating getting out as well. Enough is enough.


14 posted on 02/10/2005 10:44:30 AM PST by yobid
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To: Hartranft
It's not about immigration per se, it's every bit about culture.

I'm sorry, but immigration is the direct raiser of these kinds unfriendly influx into cities. Amnesty those coming in, but not those living in. Typical.

15 posted on 02/10/2005 10:47:37 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Wallace T.
"as far back as the 1940s, when the GI Bill encouraged mass construction of new homes in suburbs from Long Island to the San Fernando Valley."

It may be a small mistake, but the GI Bill did not "encourage" the construction to occur in the "suburbs." The suburbs were simply the result of what happens when new homes are built in urban areas. Some call it sprawl, but it is simply the growth of new development.

16 posted on 02/10/2005 10:47:50 AM PST by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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To: Tuba Guy
dhimmitude: live it .......... or fight it!

Bingo.

17 posted on 02/10/2005 10:48:55 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Korth

red UK/blue UK?


18 posted on 02/10/2005 10:50:43 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Lowcountry
I am not opposed to what the liberals call urban sprawl. As areas within city limits filled in, it was inevitable that adjacent communities would be subject to development. The GI Bill helped introduce mortgage lending at below market rates and low down payments, more liberal terms than had existed previously. It probably sped up the development of suburbs than would have otherwise been the case, but such growth would nonetheless have occurred. New York, Boston, Chicago, and Philadelphia had suburbs well before World War II, some even dating back to the late 1800s. These suburbs, like Garden City, NY, Evanston, IL, or Brookline, MA, were mostly upper middle class or better. Suburban growth has continued, even though the GIs who populated the post-World War II suburbs have either died or are in their 80s or more.
19 posted on 02/10/2005 11:00:51 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: yobid
Chicago has been filled with non-English speakers since the 1850s, when the Germans arrived in droves. Its just that, due to strict immigration laws from the 1920s-1960s, the valve was closed and it became a largely English speaking city as the second and third generations became Americanized. Now, of course, its back to what it was in the 1920s, when you would rarely hear English outside of the loop.

When I lived in Chicago (1997-1999) I heard everything from Russian to Farsi, to Yoruba, to Mandarin Chinese, to standard English. This was all in a little neighborhood on the far North Side.

20 posted on 02/10/2005 11:10:09 AM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: RetiredArmy

visited Detroit lately?


21 posted on 02/10/2005 11:13:31 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Clemenza
Liberals like dark-skinned minorities and the poor -- only so long as they don't live in the same town with them. Take a good look at liberal playgrounds like Portland, Seattle, Vermont, etc. Lily-white lands.
22 posted on 02/10/2005 11:32:26 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
Liberals like dark-skinned minorities and the poor -- only so long as they don't live in the same town with them.

Growing up in the New York area, I know the type well. They love to talk about how much they love "African Americans," yet lock the door and drive fast through the "dark side of town."

23 posted on 02/10/2005 11:35:06 AM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Korth

It is not Xenophobia that forces this migration. And it's not the remnants of slavery either since it is now occurring in Britain. It is the total failure of the immigrants to conform to the distinct culture of their new country. What was once a "melting pot" in America has become a "gorgeous mosaic" in the words of David Dinkins. The immigrants show no desire to embrace the ideas or identities of the Founding Fathers. Their culture from the country from which they fled is superior. Indeed, Western Culture is becoming an epithet. Jurisprudence is rejected and crime flourishes.


25 posted on 02/10/2005 12:17:00 PM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Korth

And why not? Compared to rural areas, cities have been mostly crowded, dirty, licentious and unpleasant places to live since about the time of Babel.


26 posted on 02/10/2005 12:21:45 PM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: Korth
The brilliant multiculturalisms and Politically Correct idiots among us cause these flights. As is said, EU will be mostly Muslim before 2012 – and some among them blame George Bush.
27 posted on 02/10/2005 12:55:31 PM PST by yoe
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To: GOP_1900AD

I was in Londonistan 10 years ago. It was awful. It is truly a Middle Eastern city....


28 posted on 02/10/2005 1:05:28 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: Korth
TENS of thousands of white families are pouring out of UK cities as immigrants move in, a controversial new report claims.

Multiculturalism!!!

29 posted on 02/10/2005 1:10:09 PM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Seemed to me the only people who could live in London were rich people, or at least where I was hanging out. It does look very middle eastern.


30 posted on 02/10/2005 1:23:32 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: ken5050

No sir and have no desire too.


31 posted on 02/10/2005 2:13:33 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America will NEVER be free as long as we have Democrats.)
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To: Korth
Those moving out were believed to be mainly white.

Other than the author's claims, is there any proof that this is true?

London's always been a cosmopolitan city, anyway.

32 posted on 02/10/2005 2:18:00 PM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Clemenza

Yes. But, Seattle has become little Somalia, Afghanistan, Uganda, India, Libya, Kenya, Iran, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Cuba, Mexico, Columbia, Argentina, Chile, Panama, you name it. They are here and 99% of them are illegal. Back on 9-1-1, the Somalian groups were dancing in the streets of their "taken-over neighborhoods" and several Somalian leaders were trying to get them to quieten it down for fear they might get attacked by "caring Americans." They just did not realize they were in communist Seattle and 98% of Ukraine County probably supported the attacks. No, Seattle has been taken over by thousands of people who refuse or cannot speak English. You walk down the street and you'd think you were at the UN or something. Go in small stores and shops and 95% of them cannot speak English, much less American style English, even pig-Latin English either. It becomes hand and arm signals time just to buy something.


33 posted on 02/10/2005 2:21:12 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America will NEVER be free as long as we have Democrats.)
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To: RetiredArmy
I live here and all I see are white and Asian yuppies, along with homeless black folk. You do have some Ethiopians in the Northgate area, along with Vietnamese, Chinese, Mexicans, and blacks in the Rainier Valley, which has always been the poor part of town.

Seattle is many things, but Los Angeles it aint.

34 posted on 02/10/2005 3:05:25 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Korth

Humans are tribal. Nuff said.


35 posted on 02/10/2005 3:07:18 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and Ye Shall Find)
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To: spodefly; Korth
The folks pouring out of the cities tend to be lower-middle-class folks. London will become like New York, where you have filthy rich people, "starving artistes" on trust funds, with immigrants in the outer neighborhoods.

The "white flight" out of New York from the 1950s-1970s was of lower middle and middle class folk (think Archie Bunker and Ralph Kramden), not of the rich. Its the same thing in London.

36 posted on 02/10/2005 3:18:59 PM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

I was there today. I loved it!


37 posted on 02/10/2005 4:33:29 PM PST by pau1f0rd (a British citizen)
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To: pau1f0rd

Are you a golliwog?


38 posted on 02/10/2005 10:42:00 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

no I'm a teddy bear


39 posted on 02/10/2005 10:59:07 PM PST by pau1f0rd (a British citizen)
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To: pau1f0rd

Hmmmm.... Not many places left in London for you. Maybe if you were a teddycamel or buddyox or somefing.


40 posted on 02/10/2005 11:03:10 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

*raises eyebrow*


41 posted on 02/11/2005 2:21:09 AM PST by Ed Thomas
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Well given that the 2001 census showed that 8% of London's population is muslim I can only assume that you spent your entire stay eating curry on Brick Lane.


42 posted on 02/11/2005 2:31:51 AM PST by Killing Time
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To: Korth

I quit the city, but it had nothing to do with immigrants - London is just so utterly, maddeningly expensive. Plus it is decaying, thanks to its ridiculous left wing mayor.

Regards, Ivan


43 posted on 02/11/2005 2:33:03 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: cajungirl
Seemed to me the only people who could live in London were rich people

London property prices are ridiculous and drive people out.

44 posted on 02/11/2005 2:34:23 AM PST by Killing Time
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To: Clemenza

Oh really. You need to come down town more often. There are hundreds of so called homeless whites down here and near the ferry terminal. I have been commuting from Bremerton to Seattle for 12 years. I ain't blind.


45 posted on 02/11/2005 8:09:40 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America will NEVER be free as long as we have Democrats.)
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