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Scandal Puts Focus On Role of Bloggers (WaPo on FR, NCPAC and MD4Bush)
Washington Post ^ | 02/11/05 | David Snyder and Matthew Mosk

Posted on 02/10/2005 10:41:44 PM PST by conservative in nyc

The Web site began as a sort of Internet boutique for like-minded conservatives and libertarians, suspicious of federal power and angry at President Bill Clinton.

Started in 1997 by a reclusive California conservative, freerepublic.com saw its membership blossom with Clinton's impeachment and the election of George W. Bush. Attention to the site reached a zenith last fall, when a "freeper" -- the group's moniker for its bloggers -- first discussed flaws in documents CBS News used in a report critical of Bush's National Guard service.

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One participant working under the handle MD4BUSH, whose identity is unknown, drew Steffen into a private conversation and appeared to coax him to share more details about his role in spreading the rumor. Copies of those chat room e-mails were later provided to The Washington Post.

The Oct. 18 conversation began with MD4BUSH complimenting Steffen and saying how obvious it was that the rumors about the mayor were true. Steffen, writing under the name NCPAC, replied:

"I don't look for the MO'M [O'Malley] story to hit for a little bit yet. . . . However, a lot of what everyone knows about MO'M is because of work that has occurred. It's been a wild ride."

MD4BUSH later probed further:

"Your saying that my dentist knows [about the rumors] because of work you did? Wow, I must say, I'm impressed. I mean really, everyone knows -- how did that happen?"

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TOPICS: Extended News; Free Republic; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: compost; ecpa; freerepublic; gannon; kristinn; md4bush; media; mediabias; msm; ncpac; odoherty; omalley; ryanodoherty
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Looks like the Washington Post somehow has NCPAC's Freepmail to MD4BUSH.

1 posted on 02/10/2005 10:41:44 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Jim Robinson; NCPAC; kristinn

PING.

The Washington Post calls you "a reclusive California conservative", Jim.


2 posted on 02/10/2005 10:43:16 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
We are not and have never been 'bloggers'.

The WaPo is populated entirely by half-wits who wouldn't know a blog from a forum if they both introduced themselves and then bit them on their pompous asses.

L

3 posted on 02/10/2005 10:45:13 PM PST by Lurker ("We're all sinners, but jerks revel in their sins. " P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: conservative in nyc; Howlin
"The Oct. 18 conversation began with [newbie] MD4BUSH complimenting Steffen..."

A 1 week old newbie used professional flattery to break NCPAC's back.

4 posted on 02/10/2005 10:46:43 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: MD4Bush

So how did the Washington Post get your email?


5 posted on 02/10/2005 10:48:10 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: Southack; MD4Bush

MD4BUSH is still here, and has posted as recently as last Tuesday.

MD4BUSH -- you're mentioned in today's Washington Post.


6 posted on 02/10/2005 10:50:05 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

BTTT!!!


7 posted on 02/10/2005 10:50:47 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: Lurker
"We are not and have never been 'bloggers'."

Rather beside the point.

A Rather by any other name . . .

8 posted on 02/10/2005 10:52:00 PM PST by alcuin ( I apologize for not being clear.getridofthateffinlooselipssinkshipsgesture)
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To: conservative in nyc
when a "freeper" -- the group's moniker for its bloggers

Yay. We're all bloggers now! I still think wonkette is dumb though.

9 posted on 02/10/2005 10:52:19 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: conservative in nyc

They are after Free Republic, They want to marginalize all of us as kooks and crazies who should be ignored. They are losing and we must expose them now for what they are


10 posted on 02/10/2005 10:52:27 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: Southack; All
I wonder how many other Freepers are agents for the Dark Side?

Considering some of the things I've seen posted, I can guarantee there are quite a few.

Lesson. Unless you know the person stroking you, wear protection.
11 posted on 02/10/2005 10:55:21 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Children classics updated for Islam, "If you're happy and you know it, go Kaboom!")
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To: conservative in nyc
Crosslink
12 posted on 02/10/2005 10:56:11 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: MJY1288

It looks to be an overall talking point in the MSM to push the blogs and political sites on both sides to the fringes. Freerepublic is the poster child for this round.


13 posted on 02/10/2005 10:56:14 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: MJY1288
So what if we are KOOKs (Keepers of Odd Knowledge) why should it bother the the lames stream press.

We are fulfilling the roles of the newspapers and pamphleteers of old.

14 posted on 02/10/2005 10:56:40 PM PST by dts32041 (When did the Democratic party stop being the political arm of the KKK?)
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To: HAL9000
Copies of those chat room e-mails were later provided to The Washington Post.

If these were private "e-mails" (e.g. FR private mail messages) that were intercepted, there is a federal law called the "Electronic Communications Privacy Act" that may be relevant in this case.

If they were public messages on the web site, they weren't "e-mails" as the Washington Post calls them.

15 posted on 02/10/2005 10:57:53 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

NOT that I am making any accusations, so don't go getting all wet hen.


16 posted on 02/10/2005 10:58:06 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Children classics updated for Islam, "If you're happy and you know it, go Kaboom!")
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To: conservative in nyc
The Free Republic Web site, which group spokesman Kristinn Taylor said has 170,000 registered accounts, is unadorned with advertising and is regularly updated with news items taken from mainstream publications and other sources.

170,000 now, zowee!!!

Sounds like this is the compost delivering a warning, that they can find comments buried on a website.

Well, here is a way to help in the battle with the MSM:

Easongate Petition is Online ( request that... CNN, release a transcript of his remarks )

17 posted on 02/10/2005 10:58:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: conservative in nyc
. Copies of those chat room e-mails were later provided to The Washington Post.

They are printing private emails now?

18 posted on 02/10/2005 10:58:56 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Southack

To: NCPAC
Nah. I'm not really active as a volunteer or anything But I read some of your comments about Keyes you said you work on a lot of campaigns and in MD doing special ops, reminded me of Rove. I agreed with the stuff you said about Keyes and Mike Steele. Shame that one nutcase doesn't get it. Anyway, just like bloggin away. We gotta be real about 2006 gonna be tough. Might need to play dirty. Most recent campaign activity: Me and my buddies went to the dem debate party at a bar in baltimore heckling Kerry, O'Malley and all the other dems kept giving us dirty looks, we just kept heckling like we were at an O's game.



26 posted on 10/15/2004 2:25:11 PM CDT by MD4Bush (Bush must win)
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19 posted on 02/10/2005 10:59:03 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
Lesson. Unless you know the person stroking you, wear protection.
Excellent choice of words. They bear (bare?) repeating.

20 posted on 02/10/2005 10:59:08 PM PST by AnnaZ (HELP STOP A MURDER! ::: http://terrisfight.org/)
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To: AnnaZ

It seemed appropriate. Considering the results.


21 posted on 02/10/2005 11:00:09 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Children classics updated for Islam, "If you're happy and you know it, go Kaboom!")
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
"Lesson. Unless you know the person stroking you, wear protection."

Steffen is a seasoned political pro, so he should have known better than to be charmed into giving away his own identity.

But there are quite a few amatuers on Free Republic who could benefit from your advice.

22 posted on 02/10/2005 11:00:36 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
And the FReepmails are posted here, and in two other places:

To: MD4Bush
Re: TIPP Tracking poll...
From NCPAC | 10/15/2004 2:08:44 PM PDT replied

You may want to keep the "might want to play dirty" comments to private email exchanges! Anyway, what makes you think some of those things don't or haven't occurred?
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Re: TIPP Tracking poll...
From NCPAC | 10/18/2004 7:14:44 AM PDT new Most people who write on this site are cool. However, a lot of lurkers peek in to see what the Right is saying. Especially after "Rathergate," FreeRepublic is one of the most watched blog/political sites in the world. As for MO'M, his day is coming. A lot of the reason that everyone knows his history is because of what has gone on beneath the surface.
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Re: TIPP Tracking poll..
From NCPAC
| 10/18/2004 9:15:03 AM PDT replied FreeRepublic is the site that actually broke the "Rathergate" story. The first person to openly state the memos concerning GWB were forgeries was an FR poster named (I think) Buckhead.
Anyone can lurk on these boards and read what everyone is writing - except in private emails. Private emails are private.
I don't look for the MO'M story to hit for a little bit yet. Chances are Duncan will bring that hammer out when they start beating the hell out of one another in the Dem primary for Governor. However, a lot of what everyone knows about MO'M is because of work that has occurred. It's been a wild ride.
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Re: TIPP Tracking poll…
From NCPAC
| 10/19/2004 3:44:04 AM PDT replied A few folks put in a lot of effort to ensure the MO'M story got some real float.
Did not see the story about the vet suing Sinclair. I'm not surprised to hear it's happening, though. There's always a patsy somewhere willing to do the BS work for the wrong side.
I do forsee Duncan and MO'M beating each other to a pulp. Hell, at this point I hope it's MO'M who wins the primary.
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Re: TIPP Tracking poll…
From NCPAC
| 10/19/2004 3:41:51 PM PDT replied The MO'M story still does have float - so much so that at the premier of "Engine 49" in Baltimore, MO'M and Katie (his wife) were walking around telling the Governor and anyone who would listen that they were "Still together." That's all they'd say - the 'happy couple' would walk up to whomever and say "We're still together."
Further, certain reporters have the story and are holding it - at least for now.
I saw Lieberman got canned. Then I heard (don't know whether it's true) that Sinclair caved under pressure and are not mandating that their stations air "Stolen Honor." Sinclair's Mark Hyman is a protege of MD Governor Ehrlich. Ehrlich helped Hyman land the job at Sinclair.
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27 posted on 02/08/2005 11:14:48 PM EST by MD4Bush (Just say no to Hillary in 08)
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I'm checking when the original WaPo article was posted.
23 posted on 02/10/2005 11:01:06 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
Looks like the Wa(com)Post is MD4BUSH.
 
Whatever.

24 posted on 02/10/2005 11:01:08 PM PST by AnnaZ (Repent. The end is nigh.)
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To: conservative in nyc
Damn there go the servers and Jim is going to have to ask for a special fund drive to rebuild them.
25 posted on 02/10/2005 11:01:12 PM PST by dts32041 (When did the Democratic party stop being the political arm of the KKK?)
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To: MJY1288

Could they be anymore obvious?


26 posted on 02/10/2005 11:01:27 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Allan

Bump


27 posted on 02/10/2005 11:01:58 PM PST by Allan
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To: conservative in nyc
first discussed flaws in documents CBS News used in a report critical of Bush's National Guard service.

Boy, they sure tidied that up.

28 posted on 02/10/2005 11:02:31 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: AnnaZ




To: NCPAC
I sent this post to you, did you get it? We need this kinda stuff in MD.

"There was a great article in the atlantic (lib mag my wife reads) about Rove. The writer whines all about Rove’s tricks, but they work and he is a genius. He got a rumor started about this dem judge who gave a lot of money to a charity for kids, so they took those pictures of the judge with the kids and said he was a gay pedophile. It worked.

Check it out: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200411/green

"



24 posted on 10/15/2004 1:16:05 PM CDT by MD4Bush (Bush must

BAITING???


29 posted on 02/10/2005 11:03:16 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: HAL9000
Google search: site:freerepublic.com "Your saying that my dentist knows"

Zero results.

30 posted on 02/10/2005 11:03:18 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: AnnaZ

Yes, something stinks.

MD4BUSH stinks. He has even posted the private emails so that they could easily be found by others.


31 posted on 02/10/2005 11:04:20 PM PST by Kay
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To: Southack
A 1 week old newbie used professional flattery to break NCPAC's back.

In case anybody needs reminding: not all FReepers are your friend. There are not only trolls on this board, but plants, as well.

32 posted on 02/10/2005 11:04:23 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: conservative in nyc

that sure looks like a set up to me

Posting private freepmails is a no no


33 posted on 02/10/2005 11:04:51 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: dts32041
I think it's a good thing that people like Sidney Blumenthal, and his ilk on the left, are focusing in on us... They have one major problem though..... We have the truth on our side... All they have is "Bush Lied" and whatever their latest bogus accusation of the day might be.......

History will record these times as the downfall of the Democrat Party

34 posted on 02/10/2005 11:05:36 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: MEG33; Howlin
BAITING???

Sure smells like it

35 posted on 02/10/2005 11:06:13 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Mo1

"Bring'em On!!!"


36 posted on 02/10/2005 11:06:49 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: MD4Bush
The MD4Bush dump was at 11:14PM on 2/8. The original WaPo post - 11:34PM. The WaPo article could have been posted on the WaPo's site first though.

MD4Bush --- Care to comment? You didn't have any other post since last December, I think.

The original post with the WaPo Article:

O'Malley Blames GOP Plot For Rumors (MD GOVERNOR'S AID FIRED FOR FREE REPUBLIC POSTS)
  Posted by crushkerry
On News/Activism 02/08/2005 11:34:15 PM EST · 376 replies · 19,190+ views


Washington Post ^ | 2/9/05 | Matthew Mosk
Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley yesterday accused agents of Maryland Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr.'s administration of spreading false rumors that he had an extramarital affair, and Ehrlich responded hours later by dismissing a longtime employee. The mayor, a Democrat considering a bid for governor in 2006, said he believes that the widespread and persistent rumors were part of a "concerted and orchestrated and sustained" effort and called on the Republican governor to apologize to his wife and children. "I don't think any of us run for office expecting that this sort of hurt will be heaped on our kids or...

37 posted on 02/10/2005 11:06:59 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

I do believe he might be dirty.


38 posted on 02/10/2005 11:08:28 PM PST by Kay
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To: conservative in nyc

Well we now know who NCAP can sue.


39 posted on 02/10/2005 11:08:57 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: MJY1288

These fools will lose


40 posted on 02/10/2005 11:09:15 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Southack
Pro or not, we all are susceptible to social engineering.

This has got to stand as an object lesson for each and every one of us.

They ARE out to discredit Free Republic and with it, the conservative message. They will use any underhanded trick and tactic you can possibly think of to do it. Lets not hand them any more freebies...
41 posted on 02/10/2005 11:09:48 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Children classics updated for Islam, "If you're happy and you know it, go Kaboom!")
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To: Texasforever

Great tag. Personal experience?


42 posted on 02/10/2005 11:10:03 PM PST by Kay
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To: prairiebreeze; onyx; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamsey; mrs tiggywinkle; EllaMinnow; cyncooper; ...

FYI


43 posted on 02/10/2005 11:10:28 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Mo1

They have a histroy of it :-)


44 posted on 02/10/2005 11:11:15 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288
" History will record these times as the downfall of the Democrat Party"

...and the slap-down of a biased mainstream press who no longer represent the beliefs and values of regular folks.

45 posted on 02/10/2005 11:11:25 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: conservative in nyc
MD4BUSH is still here, and has posted as recently as last Tuesday.

Here's what his/her home page (created about one month before last year's election) states:

I hate John Kerry and I'm sick of his lies. This is the most important election in history and George bush must win. If not the Islamic Terrorists will win, there will be more attacks on the states.

Sounds like someone trying to establish "instant FR street cred" with some lines straight out of the "Bob Boudelang" feature on DU.

46 posted on 02/10/2005 11:11:45 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: RabidBartender

Same thing, when you think about it :-)


47 posted on 02/10/2005 11:12:07 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: HAL9000

MD4Bush is a WaComPost plant, obviously.


48 posted on 02/10/2005 11:12:17 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Mo1
MD4Bush

Matthew Mosk
David Snyder
4Bush

(adjusts tinfoil) .

49 posted on 02/10/2005 11:12:48 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

verri interesting


50 posted on 02/10/2005 11:13:54 PM PST by Kay
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