Posted on 02/16/2005 2:02:12 PM PST by tryon1ja
Subject: Secret Service Comments
[Dave Kulow] We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane --- [yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ol boy" womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.]
The information below is accurate. Former Pres. Bush Sr. and the current president Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the aircrews who fly them around [When the president flies, there are several planes that also go -- one carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft] and both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so these Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.
(WHAT WAS, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN, AND WHAT IS)
WHAT WAS:
Hillary Clinton was arrogant and vocally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence. Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.
Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all "loathed" her and wanted to be on a different detail. She was hard work because she was so nasty and mean toward her detail. Hillary Clinton was uniformly despised by the Secret Service as a whole.
Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife Hillary. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attack antics that Hillary would use against her husband, the then President. They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors Hillary Clinton would scream and yell so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.
Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most people wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife. It was crystal clear that the Clintons neither liked nor respected each other and was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."
Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have "charisma," and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them. His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. They did respect him, unlike his wife, but they did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him. He was polite, but not kind.
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN:
Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in . They were very close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election she had her "pegged" and no longer liked her or associated with her except for events that were politically obligatory.
Al Gore was far more left wing and very hateful, not just politically opposed, to Republicans than Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This bitter hatred was something that he and Hillary had very much in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did have some good qualities where Al Gore and Hillary had none in the view of their security details.
Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them in disgust as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion when Al Gore got angry at his offspring and loudly, in their presence, pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?!?"
Word of this insulting and demeaning verbiage by the former Vice-president quickly spread and he became as despised and disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed that Al Gore would not be elected President and they really did have private small celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat. He was much dis liked. Al Gore was not a good and kind person. That he could have been our President may suggest that God was "answering prayers" and looking out for the country with Al Gore's defeat.
WHAT IS:
Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they uniformly concede that she is perhaps the most nice kind, and genuinely good person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine nature. Laura Bush really is this kind of a person and her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They actually love her as a human being.
They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."
Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Que for his security detail and he helps in serving them their meals. He eats with them, sits with them, and talks with them. He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers, and he of course, knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection.
They believe that he actually loves his security detail and that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone m ore than President Bush, and most of them did not know they would feel this way until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has never changed in the time that he has been President. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.
Please pass this on. It is important for everyday Americans to have a true inside understanding of their President
I consider Laura Bush the perfect first lady! It was obvious too from the start.
Thank God for GW!!!!
If you are interested in the Secret Service I recommend a book called "The Secret Service:The Hidden History of an Enigmatic Agency."
ISBN: 0786710845
It's kind of dry, but contains a lot of good info on the history of the agency.
I heard the exact same thing from a member of the uniformed division of the Secret Service.
Got this in an email the other day. Good stuff and it verifies everything we already knew about the hildabeast.
This is a chain letter - nothing more or less - President GWB and his family are good, decent people no doubt but outside of that this letter is purely made up.
SO9
I believe this has been posted before and debunked as not authentic. I note you received it in an email.
Add to this the incident involving one of his SS detail in Chile or Argentina. How he left a photo-op and reached through a knot of people to grab his SS agent and pull him out of a sticky situation. And he let it be known that he was to go with the president everywhere. What a guy. It was potentialy dangerous for Bush to do that, but that must be his personality on display. Don't mess with Texas or a Texan that just happens to be the leader of the free world.
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Because she is a-hole.
I met the First Lady when she was campaigning with then Governor Bush. I have never used the word "aura" until I met her. She has a genuineness about her and a calm serenity that is unlike anyone I've ever met before.
Of course she is.
A fine Midland woman, she is.
Secret Service Impressions of the Clintons and the Bushes-Unproven!
http://truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/secretservice.htm
I had a couple of friends who served on White House (Secret Service) duty and they concur with most of this. They were extremely adamant about "dropping a quarter and bending over to pick it up, rather than take a bullet for these people". I thought that spoke volumes for their hatred toward the Clintons, which was a mutual feeling from the Clintons toward the SS agents.
With all due respect, I don't blame Hillary for yelling at Bill.
I have a friend who was married to a compulsive womanizer and she was close to driven crazy by him, continually humiliated and embarrassed by his actions.
Sometimes I think that the Secret Service detail helps to make or break a President.
With all due respect, I don't blame Hillary for yelling at Bill.
I have a friend who was married to a compulsive womanizer and she was close to driven crazy by him, continually humiliated and embarrassed by his actions. He also was a phony and manipulater.
or the blue bird of paradise will crap on your birthday cake.
BTW, it is EXTREMELY unprofessional for a SS agent to talk about anyone they are protecting, either in a positive or negative light and stuff like this only serves to damage the relationship that the agents have with future individuals. Those being protected shouldn't have faith in the ability of their agents to keep what they see and hear confidential.
People who are cheated on often look for others to blame than the actual cheating spouse--
If that was their attitude they should have resigned. Their JOB was to protect the persons charged to them, regardless of personal feelings.
Think about what you are posting here, you are accusing secret service agents of claiming that they would abjucate their duty to protect the President because they didn't personally like him. Do you really want to smear the agents in that manner?
It was. Algore lost.
It may not be authentic, but it matches all in the public record about the clintons.
I've seen this before...don't know if it's true, but it sure could be.
Although according to Gary Aldrich - Chelsea was just as disrespectful of the SS as Hillary. I think he said she called them "pigs" just as her mother referred to them.
Have hears some similar stories from a friend who knows one of the pilots on Air Force One detail. I sure hope the story is passed around. It is worth knowing that President Bush is a warm decent person who actually cares about the people who work for him and with him. Laura Bush is a class act, unlike her most recent predecessor.
I'm not smearing anyone. I think very highly of the agents I met and worked with. The fact that they had these feelings have nothing to do with the reality of their job, and being the professionals they were, the did their jobs even while holding back the vomit they felt for the Clintons, especially Hillary. We all did our jobs, but thankfully we can still have opinions.
Were the Clintons ever under a threat? Were they ever injured? It appears that the agents DID THEIR JOBS QUITE WELL! (Even if they couldn't stand the sight of the Clintons!)
What ever happened to that guy. I never notice him on the Prez's detail anymore. He was a favorite.
I've heard the story about Gore yelling at his son from more than one agent. He also used to let one loose in the limo and try to blame it on his agents. Real class.
Why would she? Chelsea grew up in boarding schools. She doesn't know her mom and dad.
When you're with someone almost 24/7, you become part of an extended family. Clearly, the Clinton's real family was and is as dysfunctional. No wonder they couldn't deal with an extended one. They really are a nasty pair.
You can disprove the contents of this letter?
You say it was made up, so let's see your proof.
Thank you for the link.
I second that one!
Amen!
I am not really interested in the Secret Service but I found this to be very interesting because it verified what I have always thought.
Hillary apparently was not blessed with manners or didn't take the time to learn to have them.
True or not! This letter says exactly what I think about the people in it. It makes you feel good to read about GW and Laura because that is the way they truly seem to be.
Saw this for the first time today when a friend sent it to me.
That's why this is likely made up out of whole cloth, and was written by someone who doesn't even know a Secret Service agent.
I was always raised to believe that a great leader surrounded himself with great people and he also treats those around him with respect for their greatness. This includes ALL who surround him. Besides, There is a old saying, "Be good to that person. He or she may be your boss someday." I think treating the people around you with respect and as if everyone is just important as you is what, in the end, makes you the great person that you are.
Now, let us not make what S. Hannity say about us have some truth.
It may not be authentic, but it matches all in the public record about the clintons.
Fake but accurate?
First off this is a chain letter (that should say something for starters) - Secondly, if you are asking me to prove events which did not happen....really didn't happen....Well you are asking me to prove a negative....which is impossible!
Lastly I would say just as no one should take seriously any of the BS that comes out of the non-named "critics" of President Bush that are sighted routinely by the liberal media (regarding the WOT, Iraq, Soc Sec, etc, etc).....this type of supposed email fits into exactly that same category.....If the person will not put their name to the allegations than it can't be taken to seriously.
And especially not taken more seriously just because we happen to agree with what the fake email says. (this is exactly the mindset that befell Dan Rather and CBS to go along with faked documents!).
The truth is President Bush and his family are decent people. We don't need faked "emails" for non-named secret service agents to tell us this (nor to tell us that Mrs. Clinton has her many faults).
First off this is a chain letter (that should say something for starters)
I see nothing that constitutes a chain letter, in my experience with chain letters.
There is no request to send it six other friends.
It may be the circulating version of an email that is pervading widely due to it's information content.
It may be based on the true statements of the alledged contributors, a montage of all their comments put together in one article.
It may have been modified by the original authors as well as those who have passed it on.
That makes it as factual as, for instance, the Bible.
I do agree with you that without names it cannot be considered proof those statements were made. I also agree that just because it's what we want to hear, that doesn't mean it is the truth.
I think the most that can be said is that the likelihood is very very high that these words are almost precisely what the alledged contributors would say, if their professional considerations allowed it.
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