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Scientologist Elfman wants to ‘clear the planet’ (Hollywood at it's Best)
MSNBC ^ | February 18, 2005 | Jeanette Walls

Posted on 02/18/2005 10:03:26 PM PST by huac

"...“I intend to make Scientology as accessible to as many people as I can. And that is my goal,” Elfman said. To do this, she says, it is my “duty to clear the planet.” By “clearing” she means to rid the world of “body thetans” — aliens who Scientologists believe inhabit the earth from a nuclear explosion 75 million years ago..."

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"...aliens who Scientologists believe inhabit the earth from a nuclear explosion 75 million years ago..."

Hollywood can't get enough of mocking Christians who believe in creationism. Read your children this article. Explain to them that marijuana damages chromosomes. Ask them if they want to end up floundering in the damaged gene swamp, voting Democrat and hunting down "body thetans"? A good object lesson why your children should revile hippies, drugs and liberal Democrats.

1 posted on 02/18/2005 10:03:27 PM PST by huac
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To: huac
Who'da thunk?

Dharma of the TV show 'Dharma and Greg' is a loon in real life as well.

2 posted on 02/18/2005 10:06:36 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: huac
To do this, she says, it is my “duty to clear the planet

I think that the Germans may still have the plans and blueprints they used for this purpose 60 or so years ago.

She should check it out.

3 posted on 02/18/2005 10:08:16 PM PST by skip_intro
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To: huac

I think acting is about trying to gather some sort of truths about the human condition and translating them for the camera. It never occurred to me that it might be about clearing the space aliens out of our bodies.

Why won't these 'body thetans' just get back into their spacecrafts and leave us alone damnit.


4 posted on 02/18/2005 10:11:42 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: huac

she is raving insane


5 posted on 02/18/2005 10:14:00 PM PST by GeronL (The Old Media is at war with the New Media...... We are all Matt Drudges now.)
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To: huac

I think acting is about trying to gather some sort of truths about the human condition and translating them for the camera. It never occurred to me that it might be about clearing the space aliens out of our bodies.

Why won't these 'body thetans' just get back into their spacecrafts and leave us alone damnit.


6 posted on 02/18/2005 10:14:10 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: huac
To those who ask , what is a 'thetan'?


7 posted on 02/18/2005 10:15:04 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: huac
Now, now, now ... be nice. All relgions are equal, and Jenna is free to her faith; just as we are to hers. Perhaps we could learn something from her faith...

According to L.Ron Hubbard, who claims he went through a "Wall of Fire" by auditing himself with an E-Meter, all of our present problems are due to Xenu, or it might be Xemu, the mad leader of the Galactic Federation some 75,000,000 years ago, who "solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet - 178 billion on average) by mass implanting.. He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanos incident II) and then the Pacific area ones were taken -in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to Las Palmas and there "packaged". His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc was placed in the unplants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered " This is what is taught in the notorious OTIII materials during which the victim realises that all the earler time and money to achieve the state of 'clear' was only the start.

The mass brainwashing introduced such ideas as religion, "the R6 implant" ("the man on the cross, there was no cross") and divided the survivors, who attached themseves to the prior population of Earth, into brainwashed thetans and insane or dormant BodyThetans, attached to the thetans.

"The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my tech development. one can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a time." OTIII

Strangely, critics who have read this stuff do not seem to die of pneumonia, death through laughter seeming a more likely fate.

Why does this matter? Should not Scientologists who choose to believe this nonsense be left quietly alone with their delusions, like flat-earthers and the people who want 24 bishops to open Joanna Southcott's box? The difference is Scientology's harassment of critics and ex-members.- "The law can be used very easily to harass" - L.Ron Hubbard. The 'Church' also breaks up families, insisting that members "disconnect" from so-called "Suppressive Persons", Thus leaving its victims increasingly isolated from reality, believing they are doomed if they leave the 'Church", and willing to pay ever more to take that one extra course which will cure their problems by removing BodyThetans, "clusters" of BTs, sleeping BTs etc. Cult members who fall foul of the leadership are sent to the "Rehabilitation Project Force" (RPF), where they wear a dirty rag on their arm, are forbidden to speak with other members, and fed on rice and beans until they repent. For more stubborn cases, there is the "RPF's RPF" where people are held in chains.

For their relentless extraction of money from their victims see Maria Pia Gardini or Ed and Tera Hattaway And for anybody who is still interested in Xenu, then according to Hubbard, the Galactic dictator who 'really goofed the floof' (?) is to this day locked up in an electronic cage somewhere. But if you want a real flesh-creeper, start worrying about the creatures Hubbard defined in the Dianetics and Scientology Technical Dictionary "Fifth Invader Force - A thetan from the Fifth Invader Force believes himself to be a very strange insect-like creature with unthinkably horrible hands. He believes himself to be occupying such a body. (Scn. 8-8008, p. 132)"

No, on second thought, she's a loony.....

8 posted on 02/18/2005 10:16:35 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: huac
“I intend to make Scientology as accessible to as many people as I can. And that is my goal,” Elfman said. To do this, she says, it is my “duty to clear the planet.”

Does that mean they're lowering their prices? How much does it cost to rid yourself of the dead space cooties?
9 posted on 02/18/2005 10:18:28 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: huac

She's not mocking anyone just explicating her religion. Do you think Hindus mock Christians? Not to say that Scientology isn't a crackpot SF cult masquerading as a religion of course.


10 posted on 02/18/2005 10:21:10 PM PST by Borges
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To: huac

Liberals read and walk away thinking "gee, I wonder what she thinks of the situation in Iraq".


11 posted on 02/18/2005 10:21:28 PM PST by deepFR
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To: huac
To do this, she says, it is my “duty to clear the planet.” By “clearing” she means to rid the world of “body thetans” — aliens who Scientologists believe inhabit the earth from a nuclear explosion 75 million years ago..."

Is it any coincidence that her last big film was titled, "Looney Tunes: Back in Action"?


12 posted on 02/18/2005 10:22:09 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Hodar

LOL!!

From the folks that gave us "Battlefield Earth", possibly the worst film ever made. One of John Travolta's shining moments!


13 posted on 02/18/2005 10:23:52 PM PST by kb2614 ("Speaking Truth to Power" - What idiots say when they want to sound profound!!)
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To: Hodar

DIARHIA....Brought to you by LoConHuevo


14 posted on 02/18/2005 10:24:22 PM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45
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To: huac
Why are the gorgeous ones always completely nuts?

Can't wait to see what Catherine Zeta-Jones comes up with.

15 posted on 02/18/2005 10:24:57 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: orangelobster

Why won't these 'body thetans' just get back into their spacecrafts and leave us alone damnit.


Because Karl Rove won't let them!


16 posted on 02/18/2005 10:26:12 PM PST by huac
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To: huac

One of the tricks that scientologists used to pull (maybe they still do) is to set up a phony 'acting school.' They take in starving young actors looking for a break. After a few months of acting classes they start encouraging pupils to read their scientologist materials and take sessions with the 'e-meter.' Soon after, the more gullible students are paying what little cash they have to the acting school for additional 'e-meter' sessions. I find it odd that these high profile actors either aren't aware of this exploitive practice or don't care. If they aren't aware or think it's not true they should wake up.


17 posted on 02/18/2005 10:26:20 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: huac

She's very ambitious to want to clear the planet. I can clear a room but I have to have eaten Mexican food.


18 posted on 02/18/2005 10:26:42 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This guy needs a bra.


19 posted on 02/18/2005 10:26:58 PM PST by huac
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To: Borges

She's not mocking anyone just explicating her religion.

She's representative of the Hollywood intellect.


20 posted on 02/18/2005 10:28:51 PM PST by huac
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To: Ichneumon

I've often wondered how so many people have fallen into the Scientology pit. I have a co-worker who has a relative who sat and pumped almost $10k over two years into the religion. When the relative was just about broke...they simply said adios and moved on. The relative sat there...and couldn't believe the "lack of compassion" given by her handliers. But the simple truth is...they only make you a case...if you pump the cash.

The amusing thing is that the media won't touch them. Politicans are fearful of them because they will take you into court. And society for the most part...doesn't ever see behind the green door. The only case I know of...where a government closed the door on them...is the German government. The German finance office said they were free to come in and act like a religion but they'd have to open the finanical books to get their right. And they argued that freedom of religion didn't require that. The Germans responded that they could operate in Germany all they want...if they didn't take in cash. And of course, that simply won't work for these guys.


21 posted on 02/18/2005 10:29:21 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: deepFR

Liberals read and walk away thinking "gee, I wonder what she thinks of the situation in Iraq".

She's a perfect candidate for a Liberal spokesman.


22 posted on 02/18/2005 10:30:20 PM PST by huac
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To: huac

She's an airhead representative of the intellect of airheads. The great Hollywood film makers are intelligent and scholarly.


23 posted on 02/18/2005 10:31:05 PM PST by Borges
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To: huac
She definitely needs a brain transplant.

Name: Jenna Elfman
Birth Name: Jennifer Mary Butala
Height: 5' 10
Sex: F
Nationality: American
Birth Date: September 30, 1971
Birth Place: Los Angeles, California, USA
Profession: actress
Education: Los Angeles High School (majored in Arts)

California State University in Northridge (dropped out)
Husband/Wife: Bodhi Elfman (actor; born on July 19, 1969; married in 1995)
Father: Richard Butala (executive)
Mother: Sue Butala
Sister: born in 1957
Brother: born in 1961
Claim to fame: as Dharma Freedom Finkelstein Montgomery
on TV Series Dharma & Greg

24 posted on 02/18/2005 10:33:38 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
My Lord is she beautiful. You can major in something in High school? Those CA schools!
25 posted on 02/18/2005 10:35:49 PM PST by Borges
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To: bourbon

Ya' gotta luv those whacky Scientologists ping!


26 posted on 02/18/2005 10:37:10 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: Borges
My Lord is she beautiful.

If only she had brains to go with that.

27 posted on 02/18/2005 10:37:22 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Borges

Indeed. How tragic that the bulb would be burnt out in such a beautiful lighthouse. Did you know she was in ZZ Top's video "Legs"?


28 posted on 02/18/2005 10:37:48 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: mcg1969

I did not know that! They were right about her too; she's got legs and knows how to use them. It's the only way she can make a living.


29 posted on 02/18/2005 10:39:32 PM PST by Borges
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To: farmfriend

ping


30 posted on 02/18/2005 10:40:12 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: Paleo Conservative

But Karl Rove and his body thetans won't leave her alone long enough...


31 posted on 02/18/2005 10:41:33 PM PST by huac
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To: huac
"aliens who Scientologists believe inhabit the earth from a nuclear explosion 75 million years ago..."

Geez, these are sure Very Old Aliens. Lets make them eligible for Social Security and then they're be beholding to the politicians and we could exercise some degree on control over them. Could it be that this Lib wants to limit their potential eligibility for S.S.?

Could these be considered illegal aliens?

32 posted on 02/18/2005 10:42:04 PM PST by Rabble (Fonda & Kerry -- Hanoi's Stooges and America's Traitors.......)
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To do this, she says, it is my “duty to clear the planet"

Apparently she started with the area between her ears.

People think she's beautiful? I'm ugly and I've dated better looking women that her. Look at those choppers--I think she meant "clear the planet of underbrush". Blech!

33 posted on 02/18/2005 10:43:49 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone...I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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"I find it odd that these high profile actors either aren't aware of this exploitive practice or don't care."

I don't find it odd. I just finished watching a DVD, and I watched the actor's interviews at the end. These actors are dumber than a box of rocks.

34 posted on 02/18/2005 10:44:13 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Borges

The great Hollywood film makers are intelligent and scholarly.

I might agree if you said "were", when Hollywood believed in the American Dream. Dreamworks, Disney, Miramax heads are all rabid, liberal Democrats, hardly suggesting intelligence or scholorship.


35 posted on 02/18/2005 10:45:14 PM PST by huac
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To: A Citizen Reporter

That's an insult to rocks.


36 posted on 02/18/2005 10:45:42 PM PST by Keith (NOW, MORE THAN EVER....IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES!)
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To: Ichneumon
"Is it any coincidence that her last big film was titled, "Looney Tunes: Back in Action"?"

Maybe instead of "clear the planet" she meant "empty the theater".

37 posted on 02/18/2005 10:47:25 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone...I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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To: orangelobster

I heard a former scientologist explain that the upper income ones never see the seamy side of scientology, in which the lower strata of people are expected to work all the time and give all their money to the cult. She and her sister had joined in order to go to the so-called acting school. She escaped but her sister is too scared to leave.


38 posted on 02/18/2005 10:48:43 PM PST by skr (May God bless those in harm's way and confound those who would do the harming)
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To: huac

Well studio heads aren't film makers. The likes of Eisner, Weinstien and their ilk are philistines of the highest order. I meant directors (Coppola, Spielberg, Scorsese) the latter perhaps being the country's foremost film scholar.


39 posted on 02/18/2005 10:48:43 PM PST by Borges
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To: huac

“body thetans”.?.. (Eddie Murphy laugh)


40 posted on 02/18/2005 10:49:12 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: skip_intro

"To do this, she says, it is my “duty to clear the planet... "

You may start with yourself !


41 posted on 02/18/2005 10:49:43 PM PST by traumer
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To: Rabble

Geez, these are sure Very Old Aliens. Lets make them eligible for Social Security and then they're be beholding to the politicians and we could exercise some degree on control over them. Could it be that this Lib wants to limit their potential eligibility for S.S.?
Could these be considered illegal aliens?

Hard hitting questions Rabble. Sounds like a job for Chris Matthews. About his speed, temperment and intellectual depth ("Argh-Body Thetans in My Head!).


42 posted on 02/18/2005 10:49:57 PM PST by huac
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To: dixiechick2000

My mother's best high school friend went in for it early on....in the beginning days...mid to late 60s I think.


Absolutely completely whacked out. Ironically, her dad had been an Army Chaplain.

The lady left her husband and two children and went to all these compounds. Serial and Group Sex, brainwashing, and above all...give them your money.

This was pretty wild stuff back then.

I just noticed that she and her daughter who followed her later always had a hard stare when they talked to you....like they wanted to look through you.

The son and the dad were wiser and rejected it all outright.

The lady and daughter are slaves to this day. Scientology is for nuts....the only positive PR they ever got was for drug treatment in the early 70s.

Too bad a better SF writer didn't invent a religion..lol


43 posted on 02/18/2005 10:50:29 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: Darkwolf377
What a disappointment that movie was! Joe Dante should have been the man to capture the spirit of the Looney Tunes with his background in LT inspired films (the Gremlins movies, Innerspace) and the film just missed the mark by a country mile.
44 posted on 02/18/2005 10:50:47 PM PST by Borges
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To: Darkwolf377

People think she's beautiful? I'm ugly and I've dated better looking women that her. Look at those choppers--I think she meant "clear the planet of underbrush". Blech!

As usual, you cut to the heart of the matter. Blech indeed.


45 posted on 02/18/2005 10:51:38 PM PST by huac
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To: huac

"Because Karl Rove won't let them!"

Do you think rove is 'body thetan'? He does have a peculiar body type. I think he's wearing custom suits to disguise the fact that he has tentacles like a squid sprouting from his torso. If that's the case he should just get back into his spacecraft and go.


46 posted on 02/18/2005 10:52:27 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: dixiechick2000

funny Elfman took hubbie's name.....ironically traditional or maybe she wanted Hollywood to think she was Jewish....lol

I wonder if her husband is kin to Danny Oingo Boingo Elfman who does lots of scores and soundtracks now?


47 posted on 02/18/2005 10:53:01 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: Borges
Dante is talented but man does he have crappy taste in scripts. Who cares about this junk he makes? For awhile there he was gonna make a new version of The Sea Wolf and I was thinking he was going to break through into more adventurous material for his talents.

Looney Tunes BIA will be known to me forever as the final film score by the late, awesomely great Jerry Goldsmith, and nothing else.

48 posted on 02/18/2005 10:55:20 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone...I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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To: wardaddy

Greta is one. She and her hubby.

A friend of mine joined these whackjobs years ago. He's 50 now and has nothing. What a waste.


49 posted on 02/18/2005 10:55:57 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Borges

Coppola, Spielberg, Scorsese

I'll grant you Scorcese. Coppola didin't do Viet Nam veterans any favors with "Gardens of Stone" or "Apocalypse Now" (there was heroism and honor in Viet Nam- just not for the filth in Hollywood) . Spielberg is a big-time lib Dem supporter, including Boxer and both Clintons. Judge a man (and his intelligence) by the company he keeps.


50 posted on 02/18/2005 10:56:01 PM PST by huac
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