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N. Korea: Kim Jong-il Was Shot At (and knocked unconscious at his family compound)
Future Korea ^ | 02/17/05 | Kim Bumsoo

Posted on 02/21/2005 5:04:52 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

/begin my translation

N. Korea: Kim Jong-il Was Shot At By Jang's Son

It is alleged that, last November, during a shooting incident by a son of Jang Sung-taek, who is Kim Jong-il's brother-in-law, Kim knocked unconscious.

A source who used to be in N. Korean intelligence said on Feb. 14 that this story is making a round among high-level N. Korean security officials. According to this intelligence, between the night of Nov. 28 and the early morning of Nov. 29, there was a family gathering including Kim Jong-il, his second son Kim Jong-chol, Jang Sung-taek's son(Jang is Kim's brother-in-law), during which shots were fired, and fights erupted. In the midst of this chaos, Kim Jong-il also knocked unconscious.

The source said that Jang's son fired at Kim Jong-il, and Kim Jong-chol took him on physically. In the process, Kim Jong-il was either grazed (by a bullet) or shocked at the shooting, which led to his loss of consciousness, it is suspected. This story must have come from agents guarding him at the time.

Jang's son was sacked when his father, who was the First Vice Director of Organization Guidance Dept. of Worker's Party, was purged last spring. However, somehow he was attending the family gathering last November. He was a high ranking official at Party's Central Committee before his sacking. After that, he was said to be a high-level official at Party Committee of N. Hamgyong Province. However, some believes that he was actually a high ranking officer at the Bureau of Guards.

Kim Jong-il's sister, Kim Kyong-hee(Jang's wife), petitioned Kim Jong-il twice for leniency ( for her husband) after Jang was purged. However, both petitions were turned down. She has been in seclusion since. Until early last year, experts (on N. Korea) regarded Jang as the prime candidate to succeed Kim Jong-il after his death.

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To: XHogPilot
"But isn't the preferred method of assassination in the DPRK by automobile accident? Two of Mr. Kim's wives went that way I think."

How many cars are in that country? How many actually have gas in the tank and aren't being pulled by donkeys? They must have the highest per-capita death rate from auto accidents in the world. Where is Ralph Nader when you need him?
121 posted on 02/22/2005 2:50:15 PM PST by WmDonovan (http://www.geocities.com/thelawndaletimes)
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To: 8mmMauser

When he was in charge in Red China, I used to say it's not who you know that counts, it's Hu Yao Bang.


122 posted on 02/22/2005 6:15:35 PM PST by Argus
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To: TigerLikesRooster

GOOD
I am happy if he dies!


123 posted on 02/22/2005 6:50:39 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Query: The ubiquitous "servicepersons" in the translation.....is that a Western PC insert or does it reflect the original Korean?

The repeated references to "the anti-Japanese guerrilla army" with respect to quartering arrangements suggests severe austerity and "self-reliance" (self-maintenance) of units.

Too, these are almost certainly parade units.

124 posted on 02/23/2005 12:58:35 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: JenB
I don't think Kim Jong-Il is funny, either. Dangerous is more like it. But then there were people who thought Hitler was 'funny', too, before they figured out how much trouble he was going to cause.

You miss the point about American humor. Deployed against such hyperventilating egos, it's a service to humanity and an effective counter to their pretentiousness, their mano, and the legends they are trying to build about themselves, their dynasties, and their dynastic mojo.

Nothing like the cream-pie treatment to bring them down a peg or six. Ever see The Great Dictator? I think you just referred to it, obliquely. Well, Charlie Chaplin's film is now recognized as a masterpiece of counterpropaganda. He pied Hitler and Mussolini both, and it's no accident that that was the attitude the average G.I. took to war with him, when it was time to "go shoot that paper-hanging son-of-a-bitch!"

Never make getting rid of those guys into a big deal. Cut them down first -- make it sound like just taking out the trash.

Killing their legend, their mystique, and their hold over other people is better even than cutting their throats. After all, kill one dictator and another takes his place. But kill the idea of a Great Leader, and you clean out the whole nest.

125 posted on 02/23/2005 1:37:37 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: 8mmMauser

Actuarry, MiSo Ronry called up Sum Yung Ho and was surprised when Hu He show up with Wun hung lo...




126 posted on 02/23/2005 4:09:10 AM PST by Rocketwolf68
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To: sgtbono2002

More Chins than the Hong Kong phone book.

Oops sorry, wrong punch line.


127 posted on 02/23/2005 5:43:59 AM PST by thag (I am not going to give you a number for it because it's not my business to do intelligent work)
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To: lentulusgracchus
That's fine. Agreed (in it's own right, re: humor to bring down dictators).

The more specific issue I think though, was that basic, considerate Freeper Etiquitte (and I would hope Jim Robinson would agree) is that when someone starts a serious thread where the intent of the thread's author or contributor (who may have put some initial, difficult and specialized work into it such as translating from a foreign source) is to encourage real FR information exchange, it is not considerate to have it hijacked into the same, very very endlesstired jokes about Korean last names (by people who have nothing substantial to say about DPRK news due to their lack of knowledge and comfort-zone with mere joke after jok), with (an initial) majority of FR thread posters just taking the thread away from it's intial and sincere purpose by the thread author and in some cases, foreign source translator: to inform.

Some people do the same thing when an important story on FR about Japan, for example, Koizumi's statement on the Self Defense forces' deployment to Iraq, is brought up on FR for serious discussion, and then a ton of people flood and bastardize the threat with silly, juvenile endless jokes about "Godzilla" and "Mothra", and plaster manga or comic pictures, when we are trying to engage in some analysis. Why can't primarily joke threads about Asian issues be maintained somewhere else on FR?

128 posted on 02/23/2005 7:26:40 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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(Posts #126 and #127 are good cases in point.)


129 posted on 02/23/2005 7:27:24 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Probably it has something to do with PC (your analysis of the DPRK release). I am pretty sure the original Korean was "gun in", which is "military". However, since a number of these units have both male and female soldiers present, and they do pose in photos with KJI, they seek to broaden the word in English from "servicemen", to "servicepersons". It might be also that they have a NYTimes style book on hand at the KCNA office in Pyongyang. Other than that, perhaps a foreigner is re-writing their stuff...one would expect a liberal socialist to be doing that...accordingly the tone of PC comes about. That's just a guess on my part.

The anti Japanese part is true. There are many ways the Koreans particularly in the north refer to Japan and Japanese in unflattering ways. Japan of course has sins of the past, but you can see that they are a long way from forgiveness, from the communist North least, nearly 60 years out.

130 posted on 02/23/2005 7:31:57 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster

I'll second AIT's post, my Korean is limited to the necessary phrases to get the really hot duck kimchi they only usually serve to Korean customers at a little NYC restaurant.


Thank you and Gamsa hamnida.


131 posted on 02/23/2005 2:17:18 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The twist of fate could have it that two American wisecrackers, Stone and Parker, were the tipping point that turned Jong-Il completely paranoid, not of American aggression and political skullduggery, but because of his vanity and manhood, as retold in the biography written in 2031 by the grandson of the great leader himself.

I don't have much to add here. What looks to be Jong-Il's legacy in the world has been invented by two scat humor puppeteers, if his ego is as supersized as they report, this could well alter his mental state in the long term.


132 posted on 02/23/2005 2:28:29 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: AmericanInTokyo
There are many ways the Koreans particularly in the north refer to Japan and Japanese in unflattering ways.

I've heard enough Japanese call Koreans the Polacks of the Orient to say without a doubt that street goes both ways.

133 posted on 02/23/2005 2:30:30 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

Have you been there recently? You'd be surprised what's been happening in Japanese society about Korea.


134 posted on 02/23/2005 2:31:52 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: JerseyHighlander

That's an admirable effort...not to mention the nice tip about hot duck in NYC. :-)


135 posted on 02/23/2005 2:33:45 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: Lazamataz
I hate you. I hate anyone who beats me.

My feelings exactly! Thus my tagline.

GMTA

136 posted on 02/23/2005 3:50:17 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: Berosus; blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA
Ping!
137 posted on 02/24/2005 9:30:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, February 20, 2005.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"[Kim was...] shocked at the shooting, which led to his loss of consciousness"

HE FAINTED !!! HA HA HA HA HA HA

138 posted on 02/24/2005 10:54:33 AM PST by Mr. K (this space for rent)
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To: Mr. K; All

Hey during that train explosion that suppose been assassination attempt I hear Little Kim wet his pants LOL!

I think Tiger reported that he hear from one of Japanese newspapers LOL!


139 posted on 02/24/2005 10:51:26 PM PST by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I hate it when this happens ~ somebody missed!


140 posted on 02/25/2005 4:36:10 AM PST by muawiyah ( (do I really have to put the /sarcasm tag on things like this?))
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