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NY Times: Iraq Had WMD 'Stockpiles' in 2003
News Max ^ | March 13, 2005 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 03/13/2005 7:26:41 AM PST by MisterRepublican

In a stunning about-face, the New York Times reported Sunday that when the U.S. attacked Iraq in March 2003, Saddam Hussein possessed "stockpiles of monitored chemicals and materials," as well as sophisticated equipment to manufacture nuclear and biological weapons, which was removed to "a neighboring state" before the U.S. could secure the weapons sites.

The U.N.'s Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission [Unmovic], "has filed regular reports to the Security Council since last May," the paper said, "about the dismantlement of important weapons installations and "the export of dangerous materials to foreign states."

"Officials of the commission and the [International] Atomic Energy Agency have repeatedly called on the Iraqi government to report on what it knows of the fate of the thousands of pieces of monitored equipment and stockpiles of monitored chemicals and materials."

Last fall, IAEA director Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei confirmed that "nuclear-related materials" had gone missing from monitored sites, calling on the interim Iraqi government to start the process of accounting for the missing stockpiles still ostensibly under the agency's supervision.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2003; araji; bsmeteronhigh; draraji; goofyanan; iraq; nukesmissing; nyslimes; nyt; nytracktracking; stockpiles; unbungling; unsucks; wmd; wmdwasthere
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To: Happy2BMe

"I find it amazing the Iraqis had the focus to gut those facilities in the midst of being attacked - but they did"

And, they may have had some help from the Rooskies..


121 posted on 03/13/2005 9:24:16 AM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: Happy2BMe

look, I suspect something along those lines, too, but NewsMax has (once again) played fast and loose with the facts in its article: The NYT made no such admission, it made NO SUCH "dramatic about-face".

I hope that in the fullness of time the facts will force the Slimes to eat a hogshead of crow, but we ain't there yet, and this NewsMax article does nothing but fool some of us into thinking we ARE.

We'd look like ASSES if we went into debate armed only with NewsMax spin.


122 posted on 03/13/2005 9:26:38 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: SeaBiscuit; GarySpFc

#121 - Ruskies.


123 posted on 03/13/2005 9:26:44 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: King Prout
Good point(s) - thanks.

NewsMax does get ahead of the facts at times, I agree.

Still, this is a major admission for the NYT when just a little over a year ago they had to fire one of their own (or was it two) reporters for lying in the other direction.

124 posted on 03/13/2005 9:28:37 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Travis McGee; TexasCowboy; FBD; ApesForEvolution; PhilDragoo; devolve; ...
(Slightly off topic.)

#118 and #119 - great info on why things in the media are the way things are in the media (FOXNEWS) - ping.

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Australian-born media magnate Rupert Murdoch is building a home near the Forbidden City in Beijing.

The (FOX) News Corporation executive chairman was building the house on property he bought in the Chinese capital's political and diplomatic area, Britain's Daily Telegraph website said Tuesday.

125 posted on 03/13/2005 9:34:33 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: ken21; Miss Marple; piasa; cyncooper; Dog; Peach; Grampa Dave; AmericanInTokyo; Howlin; ...
how many rats based their voting in november 2004 on this one issue? that "bush lied to us".

Perhaps this is an attempt to get out on the right side of the WMD issue before Iraq's stockpile is discovered in another country. They might still have some time before that occurs so that they can prep the sheeple for the "new message" and movie the expectation goal posts on the GWB administration.

I see the Left's false arguement shifting from "Bush lied about WMD" to "Bush lost Iraq's WMD" as events unfold. The "new message" shifts the focus from Bush's and Republican's honesty to competency. It also plays right into Hillary!s shift towards homeland defense, military, and immigration issues. The slogan "It's the economy, stupid" in 1992 was all about competency and "Bush lost Iraq's WMD" is the post-911 equivalent.

126 posted on 03/13/2005 9:40:26 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: EBH
The Times story is about it being moved AFTER the invasion....this looks BAD on US.

At least that's how the NYT is trying to spin it. See my post #126

127 posted on 03/13/2005 9:42:42 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jriemer

I don't know about the subplots with Hillary and how this helps her in '08....but the NY Times has done Bush a huge favor today whether they know it or not. They have just laid the groundwork for a future military operation to go get those missing WMD.


128 posted on 03/13/2005 9:45:01 AM PST by Dog (FReepers-- - -- --- We are a battery of 80,000 bullsh*t-seeking missiles.)
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To: Modok
I don't know that they knew there were WMD but they will certainly be embarrassed, as will the entire lamestream media, if and when these weapons turn up.

Look for the usual suspects to claim the WMD, if found, were actually planted there by us just for the political victory their discovery would guarantee.
129 posted on 03/13/2005 9:45:01 AM PST by JoeV1
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To: Phsstpok
See post #126 about my thoughts on the NYT story
130 posted on 03/13/2005 9:45:08 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: shield

NYT is much too expensive for a kitty box liner.

Try the Washington Post, its only a quarter.


131 posted on 03/13/2005 9:45:58 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: MisterRepublican
"Saddam's son-in-law and the chief organizer of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program, defected to Jordan."

The key factor is "lied". I quoted the above from our president --- in 2/98. What these media/political pinheads have been too ignorant to realize is the fact that if Bush "lied", so did Clinton!

132 posted on 03/13/2005 9:45:59 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: MisterRepublican
So even the Old York Times is ready to say President George W Bush was absolutely Right to go to War in Iraq!! What next Mike the Mooreon admitting he was wrong about Fraudulent 911??

Pray for W and Our Troops

133 posted on 03/13/2005 9:48:21 AM PST by bray (Iraq has political Freedom, now Pray for Religious Freedom)
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To: MisterRepublican
"The United Nations, worried that the material could be used in clandestine bomb production, has been hunting for it, largely unsuccessfully, across the Middle East. In one case, investigators searching through scrap yards in Jordan last June found specialized vats for highly corrosive chemicals that had been tagged and monitored as part of the international effort to keep watch on the Iraqi arms program. The vessels could be used for harmless industrial processes or for making chemical weapons."

So the UN knew there was missing material from Iraq? Huh? I thought there never was any material.

134 posted on 03/13/2005 9:50:34 AM PST by The Westerner
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To: Dog
NY Times has done Bush a huge favor today whether they know it or not. They have just laid the groundwork for a future military operation to go get those missing WMD.

I agree on the go-light to "collect" Iraq's missing WMDs wherever they may be.

135 posted on 03/13/2005 9:51:09 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jriemer

yes, you are correct.

i read today's print nyt and thought the same thing as you, i.e., that they're shifting the argument now to incompetence.

indirectly it's a criticism of rumsfeld and his doctrine for "not putting enough troops on the ground", as kerry said.

what burns me most is how the television stations etch one or two stupid ideas into the couch and recliner set.

most of this country's easy to indoctrinate: they're intoxicated by tv, alcohol, food, drugs, shopping, sports, hollywood, etc.


136 posted on 03/13/2005 9:53:28 AM PST by ken21 ( today's luxury development. tomorrow's slum.)
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To: norton
"Interesting 'foot n the door' alert:"

You've hit it on the head, as the "This is not a story!" posters on this thread can't seem to get through their skulls. Maybe they're too busy posting their 27th "You've all got it wrong!" posts to actually think this through .

Look at the STORY--not just the slant (which those posters can't seem to get around), and not at NewsMax's slant, either.

This is the MSM trying to push another anti-Bush story from another angle. In doing so, they had to look in-depth at the Iraqi WMD MANUFACTURING potential.

Is this about finding WMD? Nope. But those here trying to say this is nothing at all are so intent on being the spectres at the table they're not seeing the larger story, which is that even the MSM are beginning their anti-Bush rants with "Of COURSE Saddam had the potential to build WMD," something they haven't been saying as they've been too busy telling us Iraq had no capability or plans to build WMD.

137 posted on 03/13/2005 9:55:50 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Condi for President, Darkwolf377 for First Gentleman in '08!)
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To: MisterRepublican

Well it's OK to say it now with the election over and Hillary trying to be a moderate.


138 posted on 03/13/2005 10:01:04 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: MisterRepublican

There is a concerted effort behind all these "new revelations".

Hillary is trying to hitch her wagon to the middle eastern bandwagon. She's going to run in 08 and will point to 4 YEARS of support for the budding democracy in Iraq. She will paint her solutions as common with repubilican but better in order to convince enough of the middle that voted Kerry off in 04.

I guarantee you that word has gone out at the very highest levels to stop the anti-troop, anti-war, anti-Bush rhetoric. This will allow Hillary to be dead on message come 08. The tide has already changed and since dems are incapable of forcing a loss in Iraq, they're going to push a win and claimed it was their doing.

Hillary will have bedazzled enough people by 08 that she will become president unless a very strong candidate emerges. It will be a dark day and we will slide headlong into pure socialism. It's frigtening.


139 posted on 03/13/2005 10:02:28 AM PST by Malsua
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To: MisterRepublican

If I may amend for future, archival searches:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/international/middleeast/13loot.html?ex=1111294800&en=2908f890e8beb814&ei=5065&partner=MYWAY

Looting at Weapons Plants Was Systematic, Iraqi Says
By JAMES GLANZ and WILLIAM J. BROAD

Published: March 13, 2005


140 posted on 03/13/2005 10:04:27 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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