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DeLay Pledges Contempt Charge for Terri Judge
NewsMax ^ | 3/18/05 | Limbacher

Posted on 03/18/2005 4:32:07 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay pledged Friday to hold Florida state judge George Greer in contempt of Congress for ignoring a congressional subpoena for Terri Schiavo's testimony, saying, "No little judge sitting in a state district court in Florida is going to usurp the authority of Congress."

"The Congress will pursue this, if we have to hold him in contempt of Congress," DeLay told radio host Sean Hannity.

Pressed on whether he intended to hold Judge Greer in contempt, the top Republican told Hannity: "Absolutely, absolutely."

"We will do everything to enforce the power and authority of the Congress and no little judge sitting in a state district court in Florida is going to usurp the authority of Congress," he added.

Earlier in the day Judge Greer rebuffed the Schiavo subpoena, telling attorneys in the case, "I have had no cogent reason why the [congressional] committee should intervene." He claimed that the last-minute action on the part of Congress does not nullify years of legal proceedings.

But DeLay told Hannity, "This judge and the Supreme Court of Florida are well known to be liberal judges that have a different worldview and they're imposing their worldview on the law."

The top House leader said that "no sane person" could look at Schiavo and say she's in a persistent vegetative state.

DeLay called a lawyer for Michael Schiavo, who has pressed for years to have his wife starved to death, "the personification of evil."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chooselife; contempt; cultureofdeath; delay; eugenics; impeachgreer; judge; judgegreer; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; tomdelay; weloveyouterri
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
where delay stands on states rights issues

this is not a states rights issue, so we don't know any such thing.

221 posted on 03/18/2005 5:32:07 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: jwalsh07
How am I making a fool of myself, walsh?

You remind me of Thomas More's future son-in-law in "A Man for all Seasons," who said he would strike down every law, if it meant getting the devil himself.

You remember what Paul Scofield, as Thomas More, said?

"And, when the devil turned round on you, all the laws being flat, where would you seek refuge then?"

222 posted on 03/18/2005 5:32:09 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: ambrose
I find "conservative" Delay's complete indifference to the concept of federalism absolutely appalling.

I find your support of state courts assuming powers not assigned to them disgusting, unconstitutional and anything but "conservative".

223 posted on 03/18/2005 5:32:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Texas Songwriter

MRS has already ordered that there be no funeral. He will even prevent the Schinlders from holding a "memorial service." People in FL just don't understand.


224 posted on 03/18/2005 5:32:43 PM PST by Theodore R. (Terri has already outlived Eleanor Centzone, but time is running out.)
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To: harpo11
It didn't stop Clinton and Reno from sending them in to extricate Elian from Freedom.

Clinton had a Federal Court ruling on his side.

225 posted on 03/18/2005 5:33:05 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur

"On what legal grounds does the President send in Federal Marshalls? If he is challenged in court, and loses (which he would), what then?"

He's the commander in chief and has the army, navy, marines, air force behind him. That's enough legal ground for moi. If not, send in the people.


226 posted on 03/18/2005 5:33:09 PM PST by mjtobias (Praying for Terri. Oh how I wish I were in Florida!)
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To: Ciexyz

"Hammer of the Gods" is a good name for their judicial decrees."


Only a slight correction "Hammer of the 'gods'. Cause like everybody else they too will get their day of accounting.


227 posted on 03/18/2005 5:33:11 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: sinkspur
How am I making a fool of myself, walsh?

According to the Florida Superior Courts who decides if Terri Schiavo lives or dies?

And where do they derive that power?

If you don't know off the top of your head then you are a fool Deacon.

228 posted on 03/18/2005 5:34:03 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: sinkspur
Good drama.

But drama nonetheless.

229 posted on 03/18/2005 5:34:05 PM PST by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: sofaman

Thats all you'll see from the Republicans for the next 4 years is TALK!


230 posted on 03/18/2005 5:34:06 PM PST by Edmund Burke
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To: Drango; Dog Gone; sinkspur
I wonder how many FReepers here demanding Federal action (marshals, subpoenas, contempt, etc) were a few months ago demanding the federal courts NOT involve themselves with the Alabama 10 commandments judge?

All of them I would guess.
It's the same CABAL that wants the law to be whatever they need on any given day, just like the Red Queen.
Consistency be damned.

So9

231 posted on 03/18/2005 5:34:21 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: Just mythoughts

Poor Judge Moore got railroaded out of his job. Judge Greer will probably be awarded a seat on the Supreme Court if Mrs. Clinton gets her large tush in the oval office.


232 posted on 03/18/2005 5:34:24 PM PST by harpo11
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To: Let's Roll
There seems to be a number of law professor opinions that the Federal government is powerless to enforce it's will over that of a state judge. I wonder how quickly the Federal marshalls would show up if it was proven that a granite monument to the 10 commandments was suddenly discovered next to Terry Schiavo's bed? The press would be absolutely beside themselves at the horror of the idea.. It seems that when a serious threat to the Republic is found, the Feds can move rather smartly. To Terry's parents: state judges can be thwarted.
233 posted on 03/18/2005 5:34:47 PM PST by pickrell (Old dog, new trick...sort of)
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To: sinkspur

Funny how all the people advocating that our "leaders" violate the law are unwilling to do so themselves.


234 posted on 03/18/2005 5:34:48 PM PST by ambrose (....)
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To: Drango
demanding the federal courts NOT involve themselves with the Alabama 10 commandments judge?

---Are you saying federal courts don't have authority - and responsibility - to protect people who are people denied their federal constitutional rights? If that's what you believe, you'll get an argument from the Constitution - 14th Amendment, to be specific. The black kids who were allowed to go to school in the south because federal courts stepped in, might also argue with you. What we have in the Schiavo case is a similar situation - a backwater Southern local judge and his good-ole-boy network denying a disabled woman her constitutional right not to have her life taken without due process. There is no clear evidence that she would want to be starved - only flimsy hearsay testamony about a casual remark about a TV show years ago - yet the localyokel judge is basing his whole decision to starve her on that flimsy hearsay. That's a denial of constitutional due process if there ever was one. The federal courts have a responsibility to protect her as much as they had a responsibility to protect the victims of Southern "states rights" segregationists.

235 posted on 03/18/2005 5:34:55 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The separation of powers? Since when have states had rights to make any decisions? All of a sudden a state judge tells the government to FO? I'm not realizing the Consitiutional correlation.

Well, some states have the death penalty and some don't. So that should answer your question as to whether states have the rights to make their own laws.

The states have the right to set up their own judicial system. All of them have separate branches of government. If a state court believes that the federal government has no jurisdiction or constitutional authority to impose in a matter, they absolutely have a right to rule that way.

It's subject to being overturned later, of course, but it's not anything that is an affront to the US constitution. Anyone who thinks the US Constitution gives unlimited power to the US Congress to do anything it wants is a Democrat or worse.

236 posted on 03/18/2005 5:35:35 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Poohbah
the cure would be worse than the disease.

It is for Terri, certainly. The 'cure' for her 'medical ailments' - is death, and a gruesome death. It seems Delay did the right thing. He was IGNORED by Greer. But the irony is that Greer expected people NOT to ignore him. And how does that follow? Given Greer's own behavior, where's Jeb? I have to wonder why Jeb isn't busy ignoring - Judge Greer. That feeding tube should be back in, if it takes all of the national guard to do it, and every white mini-van they own. You know, I got tossed off a thread for suggesting 'W' might have some responsibility in this. And I had to wonder that other 'freepers' are not necessarily on Terri's side. It's chilling. But of course, I don't know why I would have assumed all were. With the success of conservativism, it's now a 'big tent'. But to call yourself conservative and yawn at what is happening to Terri is something I just can't see.

237 posted on 03/18/2005 5:35:40 PM PST by sevry
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To: Just mythoughts

"Boy those 10 Commandments sure do get under some people's skin."

yas, those "thou shalt not" thingies. They certainly are inconvenient aren't they. Wasn't there one about not murdering someone? I'm not sure...


238 posted on 03/18/2005 5:35:42 PM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: Servant of the 9
All of them I would guess. It's the same CABAL that wants the law to be whatever they need on any given day, just like the Red Queen. Consistency be damned.

Same questions for you. Who will decide if TS lives or dies and where do they derive that power?

239 posted on 03/18/2005 5:35:43 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: TomGuy

Federal Marshalls can arrest the judge if he is found in contempt by the House.


240 posted on 03/18/2005 5:36:00 PM PST by Edmund Burke
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