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Are MS Word's Grammar Checker Well Enough, Professor Asks
NBC5i ^ | March 29, 2005

Posted on 03/30/2005 8:30:57 AM PST by Vision Thing

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To: RightWhale

I have an older version of MS Office on my computer at work. I'm pretty proficient in most of the progams, but struggled with Word today, just trying to get the stupid "header" to do what I wanted it to, when making corrections on a huge document. I had to laugh when I saw this thread. I don't even want to hear the word, WORD tonight...:)


201 posted on 03/30/2005 2:50:37 PM PST by LisaMalia (Today is the first day...of the rest of our lives, hopefully Terri's as well.....)
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To: The Westerner

A quotation grammatically in apposition or the direct object of a verb is preceeded by a comma and enclosed in quotation marks. When the quotation is followed by an attributive phrase, the comma is enclosed within the quotation marks. Typographical usage dictates that the comma be inside the marks, although logically it often seems not to belong there. "I can't attend," she said. She said, "I can't attend."


202 posted on 03/30/2005 2:53:35 PM PST by raygun
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To: RightWhale

MS Word actually has a couple of those grammar checkers. They measure the grade level of your writing. Word calls them readability scores. I prefer using them to the other inane grammar checks in MS Word.

These readability scores focus on the number of words per sentence, the number of letters per word. Obviously, the higher total of each, the higher the grade-level score.

These readability checkers don't measure whether or not your writing makes sense. Instead, they measure the wordiness of your writing.

When I was a tech writer, I used them to aim for the eighth-grade reading level score.


203 posted on 03/30/2005 2:56:29 PM PST by Vision Thing (The Surgeon General has determined that being Democrat is bad for your health.)
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To: PeterFinn

...as would be: All's The Times, if the publisher of The Times was a Mr./Mrs. All.


204 posted on 03/30/2005 3:00:04 PM PST by raygun
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To: JimVT

Okay, that's just funny. I don't care who you are. ;)


205 posted on 03/30/2005 3:06:56 PM PST by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: LisaMalia


WORD to ya mutha, sweet thang.
206 posted on 03/30/2005 3:08:11 PM PST by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: society-by-contract
Do people in your life substitute huh for "pardon me?"

People in my life are rather polite, for the most part. Mrs. SlowBoat simply says, "I didn't hear you."

I'm trying to get back in the habit of saying "You're welcome", instead of "sure" when people say "Thank you" to me. It acknowledges the import of their gesture more appropriately.

207 posted on 03/30/2005 3:33:34 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Everything that I've written on it for the past two years is GONE!)
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To: Xenalyte

Oh good gosh, MS Word and the Vanilla"Word"IceMan in one day.

I'm at a loss for "WORDS".....lol!


208 posted on 03/30/2005 4:23:52 PM PST by LisaMalia (Today is the first day...of the rest of our lives, hopefully Terri's as well.....)
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To: SlowBoat407
I'm trying to get back in the habit of saying "You're welcome",

When getting a compliment, it was always so difficult to know what to say back. I would usually end up saying.."nah", or some such. I've found a response of "your welcome" is the way to go.

209 posted on 03/30/2005 4:27:58 PM PST by LisaMalia (Today is the first day...of the rest of our lives, hopefully Terri's as well.....)
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To: raygun

I used to do some technical writing, specifically in writing guidance documents for regulatory compliance....

When you start understanding and translating "Bureaucratese" into English, you end up using the passive voice, a lot. That is because the passive voice is used, a lot, in regulations, where the "by" is often understood. (Even if it is expressed, grammar check has a problem.)

"Records shall be kept.", for example.

All I can say about my experience with grammar check is, "Problems were had!".


210 posted on 03/31/2005 5:46:36 AM PST by steve in DC
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To: msdrby; Vision Thing; Corin Stormhands

ROFL. I was just handed an editted and spill chequed copy of a letter I wrote. The secretary's Word decided "etc." had to be spelled out. It's a very good thing I know the full spelling since the word "excreta" had been substituted. I caught it while proof reading.

I'd have felt like poop if I found that after the fact.


211 posted on 03/31/2005 7:58:09 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Have you angered a muslim today?)
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To: Professional Engineer

ROFL! Poop indeed!


212 posted on 03/31/2005 8:05:29 AM PST by msdrby (Freedom, by its nature, must be chosen and defended by its citizens.)
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To: Professional Engineer; msdrby; Vision Thing
Reminds me of a few years back in the Virginia General Assembly when a legislative assistant thought it would be cute to refer a bill to the Committee on "Pilferages and Erections" instead of "Privileges and Elections."

He thought they'd catch it before it was published.

He was wrong.
213 posted on 03/31/2005 9:14:30 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (Some days my tagline has nothing to say...)
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To: Vision Thing

How about, I don't know, learning proper grammar and checking it yourself?


214 posted on 03/31/2005 9:19:00 AM PST by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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To: WBurgVACon
So....it was Bill Gates' fault she is an idiot? I thought the point of college middle school was to learn things like grammar.

If you don't have a working knowledge of grammar by the time you reach highschool, something is wrong.
215 posted on 03/31/2005 9:31:09 AM PST by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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To: Vision Thing

If rite moron like I want, wright moron like I will -- micorsoft irrespective. Grammar very well to not use process word checker.


216 posted on 03/31/2005 9:34:27 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: johnb838
Oh, geez..

Why the "Oh, geez?"

look if I see the little green line it mentally asks me a question -- is what I just wrote awkward or obviously flawed?

Read second and third sentence of the article:

"Microsoft the company should big improve Word grammar check."

A University of Washington associate professor ran it through the grammar check in Microsoft Word, and the software found it acceptable.

I checked it myself. No little green line.

217 posted on 03/31/2005 3:14:08 PM PST by psychoknk
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