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Shiavo's "Legal" Legacy
MSNBC ^ | 3/31/05 | Hubert D. Rabon

Posted on 03/31/2005 7:45:38 AM PST by hdrabon

Judge critical of Bush, Congress One of the appeals court judges rebuked the White House and lawmakers Wednesday for acting “in a manner demonstrably at odds with our Founding Fathers’ blueprint for the governance of a free people — our Constitution.”

“Any further action by our court or the district court would be improper,” wrote Judge Stanley Birch Jr., appointed by President Bush’s father.

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The primary legacy of Terri Shiavo's life and death is the incalculable income the American legal industry stands to gain, guaranteed by the anti-citizen decisions of its American Bar Gang leadership in black robes.

The judiciary's chastising of Congress is a ruse, since so many in Congress are lawyers. It's time for us to make the legal industry stop foolin' us and pitting us against each other for its own lucrative gain.

Lawyer jokes aren't funny anymore. . . .

1 posted on 03/31/2005 7:45:39 AM PST by hdrabon
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To: hdrabon

NPR was gloating over the rebuke this morning. The pro-death quality-of-life Nazis are out in force today.


2 posted on 03/31/2005 7:47:39 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances. Human nature is dependably stagnant.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Liberals and their stooge judges are about to have political war made on them. For far too long we have put up with their nonsense. Order must be restored.


4 posted on 03/31/2005 7:53:19 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: hdrabon

Yep, the real problem here is that congress waited till now to exercise its Article III powers. The Republicans have held congress for ten years and have abdicated their Article III responsibilities during that time. At least they fired the first shot in this battle, but it is too late for Terri and this issue was the wrong one to fire the FIRST shot.

Why? Because the MSM has been able to mislead a majority of Americans, most of whom were not paying attention to this matter prior to congress stepping in, and demagogue this issue. The MSM pushed the following facts to achieve the public opinion results it wants: 1) Terri was on life support (read respirator) or in a coma; 2)Terri left a living will; 3) Terri's family was in agreement that she would not want to live (this is a private matter); and 4) Terri received a full judiciary hearing no less than 14 times.

Given those facts, their are few amongst us who would not say that government should but out. (No wonder the poll results are what they are, they are, as usual, loaded.) BUT, the only reason the congress became involved in the first place is that NONE of the above assumptions were even remotely true.

So, here we are. The MSM has used this issue not so much to push a pro-death agenda as to promote a Judicial Supremacy agenda. For example, "you see, this is why the Judiciary should reign supreme, because it protects you dumb voters (we told ya so) from those Jesus freak evangelical Republicans!!!"

Of course, this has been a coordinated effort by the MSM and dems since they lost the election. Namely, they took the exit polling data (the same exit polls that had Kerry winning) and honed in on the "values" responses. But does anyone know what the question was that lead to the response being given that "values" were the most important thing to voters? Does anyone know what those "values" were? The MSM took it and ran with it. Values=Evangelicals=Jesus Freaks=White Male, Pickup Driving Hayseeds=Dangerous. Terri's tragedy has served as a convenient tool for the MSM (a large bunch of tools).

I just hope that the next issue, and there will be a next issue, where the Judicial Branch oversteps its bounds, congress is not afraid to act. What is going on now can't be allowed to stand. The Judicial Branch is simply grabbing all the power and proclaiming itself above the law. . ."holy committee of public safety Batman!!!" In the instant case, a Judge just basically said to Congress, F.U. and the Constitution you rode in on. How long before some Judge starts to decide on our foreign policy? How long before some Judge declares the Constitution Unconstitutional?


5 posted on 03/31/2005 7:53:19 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: KC_Conspirator

Forget liberal/conservative, Republican/Democrat. The legal industry uses all these tags to further its gains. In the light of the legal industry, the tags as they apply to the REAL people mean nothing.


6 posted on 03/31/2005 7:56:38 AM PST by hdrabon (No surprise here!)
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To: FlipWilson

Forget liberal/conservative, Republican/Democrat. The legal industry uses all these tags to further its gains. In the light of the legal industry, the tags as they apply to the REAL people mean nothing.


7 posted on 03/31/2005 7:57:00 AM PST by hdrabon (No surprise here!)
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To: hdrabon

If you insist on pontificating, at least, learn to spell. It's Schiavo.


8 posted on 03/31/2005 8:03:59 AM PST by rabidralph ("I want that."--Wife in Napoleon Dynamite)
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To: FlipWilson
Yep, the real problem here is that congress waited till now to exercise its Article III powers.

I think you mean its Article I powers.

9 posted on 03/31/2005 8:04:24 AM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: FlipWilson

This Atrocity is Judicial Murder by Starvation and Dehydration

ALL JUDGES INVOLVED SHOULD BE IMPEACHED FOR CONSIPIRACY TO MURDER


Pinellas county, Florida subhuman murderer Judgenfuhrer Greer:
"Tonight begins Holocaust Remembrance Month with our "Perfect Murder".
Never forget that we Judgenfuhrers in Florida --who let you live at our convenience--
celebrate Holocaust Remembrance Month with our worldwide public
2 week starvation-execution of a young handicapped woman.
Now that America's honor is finished in the eyes of the World, thanks to me and my black-robed Mullahs,
you have no more hope. So you WILL serve us,
and then quietly and meekly die after we have enough of your money
or are in sudden need your organs for ourselves or the PRC.
"


Theresa Marie Schindler - December 3, 1963 - Murdered by Judges for NOTHING: March 31, 2005 (after Judicial torture)


10 posted on 03/31/2005 8:06:23 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: FlipWilson

I think this is the left's death knell. The MSM have the rictus grin of Herod celebrating after the slaughter of the innocents. The whole world knows who killed Ms Schindler.


11 posted on 03/31/2005 8:06:27 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Yes, you are correct, Article I powers, as I have phrased it, but Article III also serves as a companion in that it clearly states Congress's relationship to the judiciary. Thanks for the correction.


12 posted on 03/31/2005 8:10:58 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: hdrabon
The legal legacy of the Terri Schaivo case is, if you don't have a "living will", some court may now find some reason or other to put you to death. One no longer have any presumed "right" to live.

Is this twisted, or what!!??

It used to be the opposite. A "living will" showed your specific desires and gave the doctors permission to withold certain treatments without liability. Otherwise, they had to take all measures to keep you alive - including food and water. Why should it now be presumed such a legally drawn document is now required to protect your rights, otherwise they can be overlooked by some court?

How many children with Downs Syndrome have a "living will"? Are they next?

13 posted on 03/31/2005 8:25:24 AM PST by Gritty ("Congress didn't ask much for Terri, just the same due process John Wayne Gacy got-Ann Coulter)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Ah, yes, NPR. I hear Senator Chris Dodd and Professor Peter Singer are going to write a book about this legislative battle. They're going to call it "Retexting Nuremburg."


14 posted on 03/31/2005 8:29:32 AM PST by spudsmaki
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To: hdrabon

An article on this particular ruse:

Schiavo Case Tangled Web of Deception, Corruption
http://www.theempirejournal.com/53209_schiavo_case_tangled_web_o.htm


15 posted on 03/31/2005 8:36:27 AM PST by polymuser
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To: polymuser

Thank you for weighing-in, and for the link.

We have no idea what the American Bar Gang will do to America next!

HDR


16 posted on 03/31/2005 8:50:41 AM PST by hdrabon (No surprise here!)
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To: FlipWilson
How long before some Judge starts to decide on our foreign policy?

It is already happening, by them stepping into areas like foriegn prisoner detainees...

17 posted on 03/31/2005 8:55:52 AM PST by LRS
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And today this citizen sent my kneejerk responce that Stanley ought stick hi shead in a toilet and flush a couple of times. I cited the same sources he did ,and others-to express my belief that the Declaration of Independence as ratified recognized that Governments are
instituted among men to secure the God given Right to life.
That the Court ignored this fudamental right legally and
rightly motivated the Legislative and Executive to appeal for reason from the Court. Under our constitution-and Marbury v. Madison,1803,and under the 14th amendment ,1868
they acted according ot the powers recognized under the
Constitution.


18 posted on 03/31/2005 9:13:42 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: FlipWilson

How long before some Judge starts to decide on our foreign policy?

Court ruling on rights of imprisoned terrorists.

How long before some Judge declares the Constitution Unconstitutional?

Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. The courts didn't protect Terri's right to life. One down, two to go.


19 posted on 03/31/2005 9:19:59 AM PST by Cat loving Texan
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To: hdrabon

Congress should just eliminate those federal appeals courts that refused their request for a full hearing on the issue. These courts serve at the whim of congress according to the constitution. Closing a couple of them down and sending the judges home would get some people's attention. They can make the SC the appealant court for federal district courts.


20 posted on 03/31/2005 9:23:31 AM PST by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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