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Time to part company
myself | 4/1/05 | hchutch

Posted on 04/01/2005 2:39:59 PM PST by hchutch

Six months ago, Free Republic was riding high, and I was proud to be a part of it. It was coming off having blown the cover off of Dan Rather’s use of forged memos against the President. The President was well on his way to winning re-election. It was a great time to be a Freeper.

However, things have changed. It started with the justifiable removal of ALIPAC. I supported that move by Jim Robinson, but the ugliness directed towards Alberto Gonzales. He was accused of everything under the sun, and Senator Mel Martinez was viciously attacked for speaking Spanish on the Senate floor. The tone and outright viciousness (terms like FROBL and traitor were fired off at anyone who did not toe the line established by Michelle Malkin and Tom Tancredo) on immigration threads had concerned me, but I had concluded it was an isolated incident. After ALIPAC was removed from FR, I had hoped the tone there would improve. But it only got worse. I was point-blank called a traitor because my views on immigration differ from those of Michelle Malkin’s groupies. On immigration threads, questioning the questionable is not allowed. One must accept the unacceptable and allow folks to defend the indefensible. Never mind that VDARE, American Renaissance, and other sites are racist or have no problem hanging out with those that are racists (I’m just going to call a spade a spade here).

There were folks who had the long knives out for Senator Rick Santorum, one of the strongest pro-life members of the United States Senate. Why? Because he endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey. It was stunning to see these long knives out for a conservative. And all it would accomplish would be his replacement by a Democrat. How in the world replacing Rick Santorum with a Democrat would aid conservatism is beyond me, but it was demanded because Santorum endorsed Specter. The long knives were out, and I suppose it was a sign of what was to come.

The whole Terri Schiavo case has changed everything for me. A mob mentality took over the first few days after the order to pull the tube was given. Anyone who did not toe the line was attacked. I saw a dedicated active-duty member of our armed forces called a “Maine liberal” for simply asking why troops in harm’s way did not get the same sort of “all-nighter” attention that Terri Schiavo got. It was a reasonable question – we have 40-year-old P-3s still out there. We have a war on terrorism still going on, in case folks have not noticed. We have to get Social Security fixed. I say this as a person who believes that at best, Michael Schiavo’s relationship with a woman (and having two kids with her) meant he had a conflict of interest – and that he had decided that Terri was inconvenient. I cannot take his word alone that Terri would have wanted this. I also believe that George Felos is a supporter of euthanasia, and that he is using this case for his own ends. Those folks give me the creeps, and I think that Jim Robinson was on the right side of this issue. However, I also got a very bad feeling when the Schindlers embraced the likes of Randall Terry and Bo Gritz. I had to wonder what has happened to the conservative movement when the threads were allowed to spiral so out of control. The concept of euthanasia is repulsive and disgusting, but it does not excuse allowing the threads to spin out of control.

I have seen the President of the United States, George W. Bush, and the Governor of Florida, John Ellis Bush, take huge political risks in an effort to save Terri’s life. I believe they were doing their best to do the right thing, and that the original law passed in 2003 was a reasonable one that was wrongly stuck down by Judge Greer and the Florida Supreme Court. I think that the Republican Party has taken a huge risk to give Terri a chance at life, and I am disgusted with those who seek a pretext that will justify leaving the GOP in the lurch. I’m sick of the way the Terri threads spun out of control, and the vicious attacks launched at reasonable people who came to a different conclusions about the situation or who pointed out facts that certain people found inconvenient. This is not what I signed on here for.

I believe in a strong national defense, cutting taxes, and in general trying to keep government involvement as minimal as possible (there are times when the best one can do is to limit government involvement in a situation). I am pro-life (with exceptions for rape, incest, and to protect the life of the mother) and pro-Second Amendment. However, I do NOT want the federal government to be involved in any culture war. “Culture” was never mentioned in the constitution, thus I believe it is left to the States or TO THE PEOPLE (see the Tenth Amendment). I do NOT think immigration is a problem, but I believe some mistakes were made along the way (like eliminating the bracero program). I also think that the President of the United States has proposed a sensible plan that will go a long way towards solving the problems on our border with Mexico and do much to alleviate the problems surrounding illegal immigration. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that it is time for me and Free Republic to part company, because Free Republic has left this limited-government neoconservative. In the process of Free Republic leaving me, I now find that I fear the social conservatives as much as I fear the loony left. As a result of coming to this conclusion, I ask that my account be deleted and all posts I have made, save for this opus and the ping to my friends be removed.

I do this with regret, since I will miss some of those who I have met here, but I feel no other choice. So long.


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To: DoubleOJanet
Hey, you're not aka 'MurryMom' are ya ??

(profiles are for peeking at, yes ?)


201 posted on 04/01/2005 3:28:40 PM PST by tomkat
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To: RepublicMan4U

With a name like that I'd think you'd be swimming in conservobabes.


202 posted on 04/01/2005 3:28:43 PM PST by Rebelbase (Accused Culture of Death member.)
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To: peyton randolph

Lurked here since 98? ROTFLMAO... Trying to build some kind of "Street Cred"? LOL. I thought you said "Seniority doesn't matter", and yet you're expending all this effort about lurking for 6+ years...

You are a pretty funny guy.


203 posted on 04/01/2005 3:29:10 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: hchutch

204 posted on 04/01/2005 3:29:49 PM PST by Enterprise (Abortion and "euthanasia" - the twin destroyers of the Democrat Party.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Nobody lurks here for nearly seven years.

Bzzz. Wrong again. Thanks for playing. If you write a hchutch holier-than-thou vanity, I'm sure you'll get some wonderful parting prizes.

205 posted on 04/01/2005 3:30:02 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Miss Marple; Petronski; SandyInSeattle
You were a good Freeper. Go with God.

God isn't going with him. God is staying here, although He chooses strictly to lurk....
206 posted on 04/01/2005 3:30:25 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: silent_jonny
And you've been here how long??? :)

About a year, I think. How to post a pic is one of those things I've "always wanted to know but was afraid to ask". There was an "html bootcamp" a while back, but I lost the link, and the copy of the doc I saved.

Thanks!

207 posted on 04/01/2005 3:30:36 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
(2 Tim. 2:24-25)

(1 Timothy 2:11-15)

"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing–if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety."

DOH!


208 posted on 04/01/2005 3:30:46 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.- Thomas Jefferson

(Diva- I stole this from your FReeper page because I find it to be so relevent here!)

209 posted on 04/01/2005 3:30:51 PM PST by RushCrush (Ideas are like children: there are none so wonderful as your own.)
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To: johnb838
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?

What, my right hook?


210 posted on 04/01/2005 3:31:22 PM PST by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: peyton randolph

Hahaha whatta dipwad. Anyone lurking here for that long would have a hide thicker than an elephant.

"Tough"..ooohhh you're such a meanine!


211 posted on 04/01/2005 3:31:24 PM PST by Rebelbase (Accused Culture of Death member.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
I hate those things.....
The Canada Goose needs to go back to Canada.
212 posted on 04/01/2005 3:31:24 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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To: RepublicMan4U; k2blader

YOU are one of the nutty fanatics on this board, you and every other bridge burning, pitchfork toting get Bush because he doesn't tow every single conservative line
idiot!


213 posted on 04/01/2005 3:31:48 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

You said..."Nobody lurks here for nearly seven years.

You're not being honest about your history here. Why not?"

Wrong assumption for you. Check my start date for example.

Now describe to me what the freeper jacket I have hanging in my closet looks like...Im sure you have one too.

You were you at the original March for Justice in DC...as I was right?

This seniority bit is getting old.


214 posted on 04/01/2005 3:31:55 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: hchutch

I'm sorry to hear you're leaving but understand.

The venom makes it impossible to have a conversation.

And remember, the "facts" don't matter.


215 posted on 04/01/2005 3:32:02 PM PST by Peach
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To: SandyInSeattle; TXBubba; Corin Stormhands; HairOfTheDog; JenB; 2Jedismom
The Original UT maxed out at over 65,000 posts. It was a wild ride!

Obligatory post reminding everyone that The Hobbit Hole did it first. Oh, and The Neverending Story, too.

Aggregate Hobbit Hole post count: 295,713 posts (and counting...)

216 posted on 04/01/2005 3:32:38 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (No chains - No strings - No fences - No walls - No net - Just you - To catch me when I fall)
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To: hchutch

Pls reconsider. You're one of the 'old timers' here, who made FR a worthy place in which to participate, h.

Get over the sadness and depression of the past few days, and think about it; that's all I ask.

Take care, h.


217 posted on 04/01/2005 3:32:48 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Dat Mon

What was your old screen name, by the way? Just curious... :)


218 posted on 04/01/2005 3:33:02 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Leapfrog
LOL! Men like to stop right there and not read on to what's expected of them, don't they?
219 posted on 04/01/2005 3:33:40 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Nope. Seniority doesn't matter. However, I've been around long enough to see clymers try to pull seniority. The reference to the time I've lurked is appropriate here because I remember a bunch of Buchanan Brigadiers writing the same type of nonsense vanities back in '00 when they quit or under a new name after they were booted from FR for flaming W supporters.


220 posted on 04/01/2005 3:33:41 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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