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Zogby Poll: Americans Not in Favor of Starving Terri Schiavo (poll with fair questions)
LifeNews ^ | April 1, 2005 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/01/2005 8:05:46 PM PST by FairOpinion

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Polls leading up to the death of Terri Schiavo made it appear Americans had formed a consensus in favor of ending her life. However, a new Zogby poll with fairer questions shows the nation clearly supporting Terri and her parents and wanting to protect the lives of other disabled patients.

The Zogby poll found that, if a person becomes incapacitated and has not expressed their preference for medical treatment, as in Terri's case, 43 percent say "the law presume that the person wants to live, even if the person is receiving food and water through a tube" while just 30 percent disagree.

Another Zogby question his directly on Terri's circumstances.

"If a disabled person is not terminally ill, not in a coma, and not being kept alive on life support, and they have no written directive, should or should they not be denied food and water," the poll asked.

A whopping 79 percent said the patient should not have food and water taken away while just 9 percent said yes.

"From the very start of this debate, Americans have sat on one of two sides," Concerned Women for America's Lanier Swann said in response to the poll. One side "believes Terri's life has worth and purpose, and the side who saw Michael Schiavo's actions as merciful, and appropriate."

More than three-fourths of Americans agreed, Swann said, "because a person is disabled, that patient should never be denied food and water."

The poll also lent support to members of Congress to who passed legislation seeking to prevent Terri's starvation death and help her parents take their lawsuit to federal courts.

"When there is conflicting evidence on whether or not a patient would want to be on a feeding tube, should elected officials order that a feeding tube be removed or should they order that it remain in place," respondents were asked.

Some 18 percent said the feeding tube should be removed and 42 percent said it should remain in place.

Swann said her group would encourage Congress to adopt legislation that would federal courts to review cases when the medical treatment desire of individuals is not known and the patient's family has a dispute over the care.

"According to these poll results, many Americans do in fact agree with what we're trying to accomplish," she said.

The poll found that 49 percent of Americans believe there should be exceptions to the right of a spouse to act as a guardian for an incapacitated spouse. Only 39 percent disagreed.

When asked directly about Terri's case and told the her estranged husband Michael "has had a girlfriend for 10 years and has two children with her" 56 percent of Americans believed guardianship should have been turned over to Terri's parents while 37 percent disagreed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; poll; polls; schiavo; schiavopoll; zogby
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To: FairOpinion
So WHAT?

The man sought EVERY means of helping Terri he could for THREE YEARS.

I cannot fault him.

101 posted on 04/01/2005 8:58:58 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge

You are mistaken.

Read #93.


102 posted on 04/01/2005 8:59:24 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

No, Greer made an erroneous decision based on the facts in my view, helped along by poor lawyering on one side. Greer made a finding that was not legally errant, it was within his discretion. That is why the Greer decison was legally bullet proof.


103 posted on 04/01/2005 8:59:31 PM PST by Torie
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To: Congressman Billybob

Terri Schiavo had TWO guardian ad litems over the course of the case.


104 posted on 04/01/2005 8:59:54 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: FairOpinion

Good news!


105 posted on 04/01/2005 9:00:55 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: Jorge
The courts found that Terri's husband spoke for her when it came to her desire NOT to be kept alive in a vegatative state. PERIOD.

Have you ever seen a grossly obese person and said "Man, I wouldn't want to live that way!!!"
Have you ever seen a dirty, homeless person and said "Ew! I wouldn't want to live that way!!"
Have you ever said something like "If I ever have a zit on my face as big as that guys, please kill me!"

That's what Michael used as "proof" she wanted to die. An impulsive, off the cuff comment at a funeral!

106 posted on 04/01/2005 9:01:25 PM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Jorge

No, that's the whole problem. He DIDN'T let her go.


107 posted on 04/01/2005 9:02:02 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Jorge

"The man sought EVERY means of helping Terri he could for THREE YEARS.
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HELLOOO!!!!!!! That was while the malpractice suit was in process. The minute he had the money, all he wanted is to kill Terri.


108 posted on 04/01/2005 9:02:26 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Dolphy
And the fact is that evidence must be clear and convincing.

And the courts decided it was.

Speaking for myself, the idea that a brother or sister-in-law would be more reliable than my family or closest friends is preposterous.

The law has always been that the spouse has the first word on decicions like this.

109 posted on 04/01/2005 9:02:32 PM PST by Jorge
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To: drt1
"concerned about politics" wrote:

"Michael has got to be the most hated man in America today. The more the truth comes out, the more hated he will be."

you answered Maybe but I personally think he has a bit more to go before he overtakes OJ and Peterson ...

I think Michael will be the king...he made us watch his long, tortuous murder of a beautiful person we got to know and love. and then he walks free.

Well, he thinks he's going to walk away free. I think he's in for a surprise. He's been protected and hiding for the past tow weeks for he can't go out in public without being shunned or vilified - not mention the threats (that part I don't agree with - but, if I were to come upon him in public, I'd make sure he knew I thought him less than human).

His face is now known world over and I understand he is 6'6" or 7". He'll stick out in any crowd. He will have no piece - he will get his due, one way or the other - it the Universal Law.

110 posted on 04/01/2005 9:02:42 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Hattie

Agreed.


111 posted on 04/01/2005 9:02:48 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Jorge
I was not hysterical. Facts are facts. It is not "mean-spirited" to put relevant facts on the table. It is called honest discussion. Money and sex are two primary motivations in the whole history of the human race. Michael had both of those motives to be biased against Terri's continued living (and rehabilitation) for about ten of those fifteen years.

And, identifying the existence of potential bias in witnesses who appear in court is the function of the jury -- or where there is no jury, as here -- a function of the judge. Anyone who has ever set foot in court for any reason knows that this statement is also true.

As my column makes clear, I am very close to the middle on this subject. However, because of the preference for life, the highly possible bias by Michael, I come down on the side of life for Terri.

It sounds to me like you are hard-wired into a specific conclusion on this case, and therefore have trouble with facts that undercut that conclusion.

Billybob

112 posted on 04/01/2005 9:03:52 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: concerned about politics
Have you ever seen a grossly obese person and said "Man, I wouldn't want to live that way!!!" Have you ever seen a dirty, homeless person and said "Ew! I wouldn't want to live that way!!" Have you ever said something like "If I ever have a zit on my face as big as that guys, please kill me!" That's what Michael used as "proof" she wanted to die. An impulsive, off the cuff comment at a funeral!

This is joke right?

113 posted on 04/01/2005 9:04:00 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Torie

"Greer made an erroneous decision based on the facts in my view, helped along by poor lawyering on one side."


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There was NO convincing evidence anywhere close to beyond reasonable doubt about Terri's wishes. There was also no "clear and convincing" evidence about Terri's condition.


114 posted on 04/01/2005 9:04:17 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Jorge
I notice you are from Pennsylvania!! Could you possibly be a neighbor of the Schiavo's??

I too am from Pennsylvania. Somerset. where flight #93 will be forever in our memories...

and now Michael Schiavo,,who starved his wife to death, and committed adultery while she lay disabled...will be forever in our memories.
115 posted on 04/01/2005 9:06:17 PM PST by haircutter
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Terri Schiavo had TWO guardian ad litems over the course of the case.

Yes. FOX interviewed them and they spoke on Terri's behalf. They didn't feel it was necessary to kill her. They felt she knew exactly what was going on around her.

116 posted on 04/01/2005 9:06:35 PM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I've seen an interview with the second one, and he described the first one. My understanding is that neither one was a lawyer, and therefore neither filed any pleadings on her behalf. If that is true, then neither had the capacity to file a divorce action in her name, to get free of Michael.

Billybob
117 posted on 04/01/2005 9:07:07 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: Jorge

The charge of conflict of interest applies to the court's judgement the Michael Schaivo was a fit guardian now, in 2005, not when he was behaving honorably and pursuing nursing training to care for his disabled wife.

Whether despair made him callous, or finding another woman, or the lure of money, he did not continue on the noble path. He did not give guardianship of his wife over to her parents whose love was obviously greater than his, but 'remembered' her purported desire not to live a she had become.

Giving up would have meant passing her care on to someone else, he did more than give up, and worse.


119 posted on 04/01/2005 9:07:31 PM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: Congressman Billybob
"And the first action of that counsel should have been to file for a divorce."

But that statement illustrates perfectly the bizarre, irrational context of this case. Because Terri was deemed incompetent to make ANY decisions for herself, MS, by mere virtue of his status as her husband, was virtually automatically appointed as Terri's Guardian and spoke for her in all matters - i.e., She had NO voice other than through MS.

In order for her to achieve a divorce she would FIRST have to acquire another voice by removing MS as the Guardian. Talk about cruel fate to have the person most apt to gain from your demise controlling your water and food and actually aided and abetted in shutting it off by the corrupt legal system!

Circular, Circular circumstances that have my head in a fog!

120 posted on 04/01/2005 9:08:30 PM PST by drt1
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