Sunni Clerics Urge Followers to Join Iraq Army and Police(stunning political turnaround)

NYT ^ | 04/02/05 | ROBERT F. WORTH

[TigerLikesRooster]

It must really hurt for NYT to report this. I wonder if they kept their straight face while doing it.:)

[TigerLikesRooster]

Ping!

[CurlyDave]

I suspect it does not represent a change of heart.

This is nothing but an attempt to infiltrate the army and police.

Loyalty of these guys is highly suspect.

[Peace will be here soon]

"But Sheik Abdul Ghafour also made clear that the order was aimed at regaining some control over Iraq's new security forces, not saving Shiite lives."

This doesn`t sound good to me. Sounds like a way to disrupt the process from within. I wouldn`t trust these clerics at all.

[vbmoneyspender]

If you are a parasite, it is better to attack the host from within.

[kipita]

This is nothing but an attempt to infiltrate the army and police.

I tend to agree.

[Billthedrill]

Whether sincere or not, it is an acknowledgment that open opposition is no longer a viable policy. That in itself is an interesting development.

I can think of a third reason why such a policy might be in order. An all-Shi'ite police and a majority-Shi'ite government (with a healthy minority of Kurds) will be sorely tempted to exact retribution from their oppressors of a quarter-century. Not until the Americans leave, of course. But we won't be staying to prevent it, and we won't lift a finger to stop it.

[snarks_when_bored]

I suspect it does not represent a change of heart.

This is nothing but an attempt to infiltrate the army and police.

Loyalty of these guys is highly suspect.

Yep. Two words: Trojan Horse.

[Jeff Chandler]

Buried in the Saturday edition.

[spinestein]

[This is nothing but an attempt to infiltrate the army and police.]

[[I tend to agree.]]


I disagree. I think it's more likely they see the new government is the way it's going to be from now on and realize that if they don't get on board the the train, it's going to pull out of the station without them.

[kipita]

I disagree. I think it's more likely they see the new government is the way it's going to be from now on and realize that if they don't get on board the the train, it's going to pull out of the station without them.

Okay--I'm respect the fact that you've posted this just before midnight. However, it's 10:15a.m. (April 2) for me so you had me going there for awhile.

[Killborn]

I never, ever once believed that canard about Sunnis being opposed to the war, trying to take power, not wanting to participate, etc, etc, etc, etc. If ppl widely believe this myth and act upon it, who gets screwed? The Iraqis. America. The Coalition. The President. Republicans. Conservatives. Us Freepers. It will be endless gloating and "See I told you so!!!!! Nani nani nani nani you stupid doodoo heads!!!" from assorted leftist turd piles. That's why the DSM (DeathScreamMedia) is trying so hard to push this lie. They want a civil war. They want the Iraqis to do a little "payback".

Have Sunnis always lord over Iraq, urinating over the Kurds and Shiites? That is the equivalent of saying that Buddhists rule Thailand or Zimbabweans are in control of the government. The only Sunnis who ruled over Iraq after the Brits left were monarchs, assorted strongmen, and one evil prig, Sod@mn Insane. They treated their Sunni "brethren" the way they treated any of their other subjects. The Sunnis who benefit are the ones who have connections to these rulers. Your ordinary Mohammed Ali Sunni got didly squat from those in charge.

Actually, wait... Mohammed did get sth, and so did his wife. He was shoved into a paper shredder for conspiring against "the President" while his wife was last seen with OJ Insane, the evil spawn of Sod@mn and the Iraqi version of Billybob "Ah can't keep mah pants up for three seconds." Clingtoon. I don't know how the previous rulers treated the ppl but Saddam was the worse. There are just as many Sunnis lying in the graves as there are Kurds and Shiites.

So we've got a few Jihadnuts trying to rally the crazies in an attempt to set up a Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan. Big frigen whoop. The freedom fighters (no not the DU version, the FR version) will put such a whompin on then that they'll have to flee to another tyrannical Arab hellhole.

The Iraqis are tired of dictators and aren't going to take orders from power crazed self appointed losers anymore. MArk my words. Iraq will prosper. Everyone will be free. Everyone.

[Southack]

"Prominently missing from the signers was Harith al-Dari, the leader of the Association of Muslim Scholars and one of the most influential Sunni Arab clerics in Iraq, who is said to have close ties to the insurgency."

What the NY Times deliberately omits is that Harith al-Dari is a *foreign* Sunni cleric who only came into Iraq after the U.S. invasion had toppled Hussein.

[Southack]

"Sunni Arabs dominated the higher echelons of the military under Saddam Hussein, and many, enraged by the American decision to dissolve Mr. Hussein's army two years ago, joined the insurgency."

...Where they've been militarily ineffective; managing to kill about 2 Americans per day...something that a single drunk teenager could manage on a Spring Break weekend drive, hardly the mark of a viable insurgency (to anyone but Leftist media flunkies, at least).

[RightOnline]

"The edict contained a condition seemingly aimed at sweetening the pill for resistant Sunni Arabs: that a new police or army recruit must agree "not to help the occupier against his compatriots.""

Gee. Thanks for nothin'.

[poobear]

Let them join, then have unexpected accidents during ballistics training. Whoops, another Shiite bites the dust.

[wiggen]

One way to know who's correct and that is whether sunnis get their own divisions,their own precients.Its all about who's in command after all.I personally think you're both correct.No question after missing out on the elections by not participating they have to feel they better get their people in places that might do them some good.They could also,if they manuever things their way,get their own divisions & precients. That way,they could have the U.S. and our allies fund their own army within an army.pretty devious,huh?

[LoudRepublicangirl]

I don't trust a word these vermin say. You don't go from approving of kidnappings and beheadings to agreeing to cooperate in less than a year. I'm not buying it and I hope those in authority do not buy it either.

[McGavin999]

I'm sure the rest of the country is aware of it too. They will be watched like a hawk if they join.

[Grampa Dave]

Politics and agenda pushing are the same around the world.

If your group is not in the power group, it is very hard to push your agendas.