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Sunni Clerics Urge Followers to Join Iraq Army and Police(stunning political turnaround)
NYT ^ | 04/02/05 | ROBERT F. WORTH

Posted on 04/01/2005 10:41:08 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Sunni Clerics Urge Followers to Join Iraq Army and Police By ROBERT F. WORTH

AGHDAD, Iraq, April 1 - A group of Sunni Arab clerics, including some hard-line figures who fiercely oppose the American presence here, issued a statement on Friday urging their fellow Sunni Arabs to join the Iraqi Army and police.

The edict, signed by 64 imams and religious scholars, was a striking turnaround for the clerics, who have often lashed out in sermons at the fledgling army and police force and branded them collaborators.

Prominently missing from the signers was Harith al-Dari, the leader of the Association of Muslim Scholars and one of the most influential Sunni Arab clerics in Iraq, who is said to have close ties to the insurgency.

Still, the directive, which carried the signature of Ahmed Hassan al-Taha, an imam at an important Baghdad mosque who has been a strong critic of the occupation, seemed to represent a significant step.

Many if not most insurgent attacks in recent months have been aimed at the police and army, which are largely composed of Shiites. The cleric who announced the edict, Sheik Ahmed Abdul Ghafour al-Samarrai, said he hoped and believed that the new directive would undercut those attacks.

But Sheik Abdul Ghafour also made clear that the order was aimed at regaining some control over Iraq's new security forces, not saving Shiite lives. Sunni Arabs dominated the higher echelons of the military under Saddam Hussein, and many, enraged by the American decision to dissolve Mr. Hussein's army two years ago, joined the insurgency.

"The new army and police force are empty of good people, and we need to supply them," the edict said. "Because the police and army are a safeguard for the whole nation, not a militia for any special party, we have issued this fatwa calling on our people to join the army and police."

The edict contained a condition seemingly aimed at sweetening the pill for resistant Sunni Arabs: that a new police or army recruit must agree "not to help the occupier against his compatriots."

American and Iraqi officials welcomed the edict as a sign that the Sunni Arabs, who largely boycotted the January elections, are taking steps toward rejoining the country's government and politics.

"It is a positive step," said Saad Jawad Qindeel, a member of the Shiite alliance that won the largest bloc of seats in Iraq's new national assembly in January. "We are hoping the clerics will take an even more definite attitude in preventing terrorism."

Although Sheik Dari of the Association of Muslim Scholars did not sign the edict, Sheik Abdul Ghafour delivered it on Friday at the mosque in western Baghdad that houses the association's headquarters.

It was not clear whether Sheik Dari or the association were offering some tacit support by providing the venue for the announcement. The leaders of the association, like some of the scholars who signed the edict, are widely believed to have some influence over the armed resistance. But it is impossible to say how much.

In the past, members of the association have often complained about injustices committed by Iraqi soldiers and police officers and by the American military. On Thursday, Sheik Abdul Ghafour invoked those injustices as the main reason for issuing the edict.

"The bad conduct of some army recruits has led the wise men and loyal Iraqis to recognize that they must build up this country and not leave things in the hands of those who have caused such chaos and destruction," he said.

New details emerged Friday about the jailed Jordanian-American who is said to have been a senior aide to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Al Qaeda's representative in Iraq. The man was born in Kuwait to Jordanian parents but moved with his family to the United States, where he spent about 20 years, mostly in the Midwest, Pentagon officials said. He moved to the Middle East a few years before the Sept. 11 attacks and was seized late last year at his home in Baghdad, along with weapons and bomb-making materials, the officials said.

Pentagon officials said the man had acted as a liaison with other terrorist groups, moved money and foreign fighters into Iraq and helped in the planning and execution of kidnappings by the Zarqawi network.

Violence continued to roil central and northern Iraq. In Baquba, north of Baghdad, gunmen assassinated a police chief, Col. Hashem Rashid Muhammad, as he arrived at a police station late Thursday night, Iraqi officials said.

In Samarra, an ancient spiral minaret that is one of Iraq's most celebrated monuments was damaged Friday when insurgents set off an explosion, American military officials said. The top of the 160-foot tower, built in the ninth century when Samarra was the capital of the Abbasid Empire, was blown away in the attack. No one was injured, and the Iraqi police are investigating the incident, said Master Sgt. Corine Lombardo of the United States Army, a military spokeswoman.

East of Samarra, Iraqi police commandos and Interior Ministry officers killed five insurgents and detained two in a fierce gun battle early Friday morning, Sergeant Lombardo said.

In Baghdad, American soldiers opened fire on a car that tried to pass them on the airport road, killing one Iraqi and injuring two, officials at Yarmuk Hospital said. American military officials said they were not aware of the incident.

In Mosul, fliers appeared on Friday warning members of one of the city's most prominent tribes to stop working with Americans. The fliers were addressed to the tribe by the Zarqawi network. They warned members of the Kashmola tribe to force Duraid al-Kashmola, Mosul's governor, to leave the city or face retribution against all the tribe's members.

Talks continued Friday among members of the newly elected national assembly, who plan to meet and try to choose an assembly speaker on Sunday.

Meshaan al-Juburi, a Sunni assembly member, warned Friday that Sunni members would walk out if the Shiite alliance insisted on electing its own Sunni candidate as speaker. But Shiite alliance members have said they have no intention of imposing a speaker on the assembly.

Khalid al-Ansary and Zaineb Obeid contributed reporting from Baghdad for this article, and Eric Schmitt from Washington.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; edict; insurgent; iraq; polic; sunni
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It must really hurt for NYT to report this. I wonder if they kept their straight face while doing it.:)
1 posted on 04/01/2005 10:41:10 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Southack; Grampa Dave; Boot Hill

Ping!


2 posted on 04/01/2005 10:42:04 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I suspect it does not represent a change of heart.

This is nothing but an attempt to infiltrate the army and police.

Loyalty of these guys is highly suspect.


3 posted on 04/01/2005 11:07:05 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: TigerLikesRooster

"But Sheik Abdul Ghafour also made clear that the order was aimed at regaining some control over Iraq's new security forces, not saving Shiite lives."

This doesn`t sound good to me. Sounds like a way to disrupt the process from within. I wouldn`t trust these clerics at all.


4 posted on 04/01/2005 11:08:17 PM PST by Peace will be here soon
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If you are a parasite, it is better to attack the host from within.


5 posted on 04/01/2005 11:08:32 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: CurlyDave
This is nothing but an attempt to infiltrate the army and police.

I tend to agree.

6 posted on 04/01/2005 11:12:57 PM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Whether sincere or not, it is an acknowledgment that open opposition is no longer a viable policy. That in itself is an interesting development.

I can think of a third reason why such a policy might be in order. An all-Shi'ite police and a majority-Shi'ite government (with a healthy minority of Kurds) will be sorely tempted to exact retribution from their oppressors of a quarter-century. Not until the Americans leave, of course. But we won't be staying to prevent it, and we won't lift a finger to stop it.

7 posted on 04/01/2005 11:14:01 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: CurlyDave
I suspect it does not represent a change of heart.

This is nothing but an attempt to infiltrate the army and police.

Loyalty of these guys is highly suspect.

Yep. Two words: Trojan Horse.

8 posted on 04/01/2005 11:24:21 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Buried in the Saturday edition.


9 posted on 04/01/2005 11:24:38 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Tagline schmagline.)
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To: kipita

[This is nothing but an attempt to infiltrate the army and police.]

[[I tend to agree.]]


I disagree. I think it's more likely they see the new government is the way it's going to be from now on and realize that if they don't get on board the the train, it's going to pull out of the station without them.




10 posted on 04/01/2005 11:48:53 PM PST by spinestein
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To: spinestein
I disagree. I think it's more likely they see the new government is the way it's going to be from now on and realize that if they don't get on board the the train, it's going to pull out of the station without them.

Okay--I'm respect the fact that you've posted this just before midnight. However, it's 10:15a.m. (April 2) for me so you had me going there for awhile.

11 posted on 04/02/2005 12:15:55 AM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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I never, ever once believed that canard about Sunnis being opposed to the war, trying to take power, not wanting to participate, etc, etc, etc, etc. If ppl widely believe this myth and act upon it, who gets screwed? The Iraqis. America. The Coalition. The President. Republicans. Conservatives. Us Freepers. It will be endless gloating and "See I told you so!!!!! Nani nani nani nani you stupid doodoo heads!!!" from assorted leftist turd piles. That's why the DSM (DeathScreamMedia) is trying so hard to push this lie. They want a civil war. They want the Iraqis to do a little "payback".

Have Sunnis always lord over Iraq, urinating over the Kurds and Shiites? That is the equivalent of saying that Buddhists rule Thailand or Zimbabweans are in control of the government. The only Sunnis who ruled over Iraq after the Brits left were monarchs, assorted strongmen, and one evil prig, Sod@mn Insane. They treated their Sunni "brethren" the way they treated any of their other subjects. The Sunnis who benefit are the ones who have connections to these rulers. Your ordinary Mohammed Ali Sunni got didly squat from those in charge.

Actually, wait... Mohammed did get sth, and so did his wife. He was shoved into a paper shredder for conspiring against "the President" while his wife was last seen with OJ Insane, the evil spawn of Sod@mn and the Iraqi version of Billybob "Ah can't keep mah pants up for three seconds." Clingtoon. I don't know how the previous rulers treated the ppl but Saddam was the worse. There are just as many Sunnis lying in the graves as there are Kurds and Shiites.

So we've got a few Jihadnuts trying to rally the crazies in an attempt to set up a Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan. Big frigen whoop. The freedom fighters (no not the DU version, the FR version) will put such a whompin on then that they'll have to flee to another tyrannical Arab hellhole.

The Iraqis are tired of dictators and aren't going to take orders from power crazed self appointed losers anymore. MArk my words. Iraq will prosper. Everyone will be free. Everyone.
12 posted on 04/02/2005 12:27:15 AM PST by Killborn (Liberals. The greatest threat to mankind, morality, civilization, cute puppies and fuzzy bunnies.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"Prominently missing from the signers was Harith al-Dari, the leader of the Association of Muslim Scholars and one of the most influential Sunni Arab clerics in Iraq, who is said to have close ties to the insurgency."

What the NY Times deliberately omits is that Harith al-Dari is a *foreign* Sunni cleric who only came into Iraq after the U.S. invasion had toppled Hussein.

13 posted on 04/02/2005 1:31:44 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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"Sunni Arabs dominated the higher echelons of the military under Saddam Hussein, and many, enraged by the American decision to dissolve Mr. Hussein's army two years ago, joined the insurgency."

...Where they've been militarily ineffective; managing to kill about 2 Americans per day...something that a single drunk teenager could manage on a Spring Break weekend drive, hardly the mark of a viable insurgency (to anyone but Leftist media flunkies, at least).

14 posted on 04/02/2005 1:36:40 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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"The edict contained a condition seemingly aimed at sweetening the pill for resistant Sunni Arabs: that a new police or army recruit must agree "not to help the occupier against his compatriots.""

Gee. Thanks for nothin'.

15 posted on 04/02/2005 1:42:23 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: kipita
Let them join, then have unexpected accidents during ballistics training. Whoops, another Shiite bites the dust.
16 posted on 04/02/2005 3:25:00 AM PST by poobear
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To: kipita

One way to know who's correct and that is whether sunnis get their own divisions,their own precients.Its all about who's in command after all.I personally think you're both correct.No question after missing out on the elections by not participating they have to feel they better get their people in places that might do them some good.They could also,if they manuever things their way,get their own divisions & precients. That way,they could have the U.S. and our allies fund their own army within an army.pretty devious,huh?


17 posted on 04/02/2005 4:19:48 AM PST by wiggen (Greer confims the existence of hell)
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To: CurlyDave

I don't trust a word these vermin say. You don't go from approving of kidnappings and beheadings to agreeing to cooperate in less than a year. I'm not buying it and I hope those in authority do not buy it either.


18 posted on 04/02/2005 4:24:42 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: CurlyDave

I'm sure the rest of the country is aware of it too. They will be watched like a hawk if they join.


19 posted on 04/02/2005 4:29:36 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Politics and agenda pushing are the same around the world.

If your group is not in the power group, it is very hard to push your agendas.


20 posted on 04/02/2005 6:18:33 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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