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Posted on 04/02/2005 7:21:53 AM PST by DannyTN
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When I read The Year of Three Popes by Peter Hebblethwaite (about the events of 1978 which saw the death of Paul VI, the election and death of John Paul I, and then the election of John Paul II) he mentions the spate of editorials in the Osservatore Romano and the spate of letters to the editor in the Times of London at the time of the conclaves about what the mottos attributed to the dead pope or the next pope by St Malachy in his prophecies. Enthralled, I went to the library and looked through the microfilm of the Times to read the letters myself. And then I tried to track down a copy of the prophecies. I have them reproduced below, as well as an explanation of them from the Catholic Encyclopedia. The prevailing view today is that they are elaborate forgeries, probably perpretrated by a school of Jesuits in the 1600s. This is based on the clear relation of the mottos to the various popes until that period, and the need to find oblique references (such as the motto of the Pope's home diocese) to make the particular motto fit the particular pope. The inclusion of anti-popes would also appear to militate against the authenticity of the prophecies. Nevetheless, as each new conclave comes and goes, people start to become a bit jittery about them. I think they are a bit of fun, and the semantic exercise of trying to fit the motto to the Pope that goes on in letters to the editor around the world is great reading!
According to the prophecy, the next Pope will be the second last Pope Gloria Olivae ("Glory of the Olives"). Will we see the return of an Italian to Vatican Hill? Or will it be a Frenchman or a Spaniard? Someone from Latin America, perhaps, the Glory of the Spanish New World?
The most famous and best known prophecies about the popes are those attributed to St. Malachy. In 1139 he went to Rome to give an account of the affairs of his diocese to the pope, Innocent II, who promised him two palliums for the metropolitan Sees of Armagh and Cashel. While at Rome, he received (according to the Abbé Cucherat) the strange vision of the future wherein was unfolded before his mind the long list of illustrious pontiffs who were to rule the Church until the end of time. The same author tells us that St. Malachy gave his manuscript to Innocent II to console him in the midst of his tribulations, and that the document remained unknown in the Roman Archives until its discovery in 1590 (Cucherat, "Proph. de la succession des papes", ch. xv). They were first published by Arnold de Wyon, and ever since there has been much discussion as to whether they are genuine predictions of St. Malachy or forgeries. The silence of 400 years on the part of so many learned authors who had written about the popes, and the silence of St. Bernard especially, who wrote the "Life of St. Malachy", is a strong argument against their authenticity, but it is not conclusive if we adopt Cucherat's theory that they were hidden in the Archives during those 400 years.
These short prophetical announcements, in number 112, indicate some noticeable trait of all future popes from Celestine II, who was elected in the year 1130, until the end of the world. They are enunciated under mystical titles. Those who have undertaken to interpret and explain these symbolical prophecies have succeeded in discovering some trait, allusion, point, or similitude in their application to the individual popes, either as to their country, their name, their coat of arms or insignia, their birth-place, their talent or learning, the title of their cardinalate, the dignities which they held etc. For example, the prophecy concerning Urban VIII is Lilium et Rosa (the lily and the rose); he was a native of Florence and on the arms of Florence figured a fleur-de-lis; he had three bees emblazoned on his escutcheon, and the bees gather honey from the lilies and roses. Again, the name accords often with some remarkable and rare circumstance in the pope's career; thus Peregrinus apostolicus (pilgrim pope), which designates Pius VI, appears to be verified by his journey when pope into Germany, by his long career as pope, and by his expatriation from Rome at the end of his pontificate. Those who have lived and followed the course of events in an intelligent manner during the pontificates of Pius IX, Leo XIII, and Pius X cannot fail to be impressed with the titles given to each by the prophecies of St. Malachy and their wonderful appropriateness: Crux de Cruce (Cross from a Cross) Pius IX; Lumen in caelo (Light in the Sky) Leo XIII; Ignis ardens (Burning Fire) Pius X. There is something more than coincidence in the designations given to these three popes so many hundred years before their time. We need not have recourse either to the family names, armorial bearings or cardinalatial titles, to see the fitness of their designations as given in the prophecies. The afflictions and crosses of Pius IX were more than fell to the lot of his predecessors; and the more aggravating of these crosses were brought on by the House of Savoy whose emblem was a cross. Leo XIII was a veritable luminary of the papacy. The present pope is truly a burning fire of zeal for the restoration of all things to Christ.
The last of these prophecies concerns the end of the world and is as follows: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End." It has been noticed concerning Petrus Romanus, who according to St. Malachy's list is to be the last pope, that the prophecy does not say that no popes will intervene between him and his predecessor designated Gloria olivoe. It merely says that he is to be the last, so that we may suppose as many popes as we please before "Peter the Roman". Cornelius a Lapide refers to this prophecy in his commentary "On the Gospel of St. John" (C. xvi) and "On the Apocalypse" (cc. xvii-xx), and he endeavours to calculate according to it the remaining years of time.
| Pope No. | Name (Reign) | Motto No | Motto (and explanation) |
| 167 | Celestine II (1143-1144) | 1 | Ex castro Tyberis (from a castle on the Tiber) Hist.: Celestin II was born in Citta di Castello, Toscany, on the shores of the Tiber |
| 168 | Lucius II (1144-1145) | 2 | Inimicus expulsus |
| 169 | Eugene III (1145-1153) | 3 | Ex magnitudine montis (Of the greatness of the mount) Hist.: Born in the castle of Grammont (latin: mons magnus), his family name was Montemagno |
| 170 | Anastasius IV (1153-1154) | 4 | Abbas Suburranus |
| 171 | Adrian IV (1154-1159) | 5 | De rure albo (field of Albe) Hist.: Born in the town of Saint-Alban |
| Antipope | Victor IV (1159-1164) | 6 | Ex tetro carcere |
| Antipope | Paschal III (1164-1168) | 7 | Via trans-Tyberina |
| Antipope | Calistus III (1168-1178) | 8 | De Pannonia Tusciae |
| 172 | Alexander III (1159-1181) | 9 | Ex ansere custode |
| 173 | Lucius III (1181-1185) | 10 | Lux in ostio |
| 174 | Urban III (1185-1187) | 11 | Sus in cribo |
| 175 | Gregory VIII (1187) | 12 | Ensis Laurentii |
| 176 | Clement III (1187-1191) | 13 | De schola exiet |
| 177 | Celestine III (1191-1198) | 14 | De rure bovensi |
| 178 | Innocent III (1198-1216) | 15 | Comes signatus (signed Count) Hist.: descendant of the noble Signy, later called Segni family |
| 179 | Honorius III (1216-1227) | 16 | Canonicus de latere |
| 180 | Gregory IX (1227-1241) | 17 | Avis Ostiensis (Bird of Ostia) Hist.: before his election he was Cardinal of Ostia |
| 181 | Celestine IV (1241) | 18 | Leo Sabinus |
| 182 | Innocent IV (1243-1254) | 19 | Comes Laurentius |
| 183 | Alexander IV (1254-1261) | 20 | Signum Ostiense |
| 184 | Urban IV (1261-1264) | 21 | Hierusalem Campaniae (Jerusalem of Champagne) Hist.: native of Troyes, Champagne, later patriarch of Jerusalem |
| 185 | Clement IV (1265-1268) | 22 | Draca depressus |
| 186 | Gregory X (1271-1276) | 23 | Anguinus vir |
| 187 | Innocent V (1276) | 24 | Concionatur Gallus |
| 188 | Adrian V (1276) | 25 | Bonus Comes |
| 189 | John XXI (1276-1277) | 26 | Piscator Tuscus |
| 190 | Nicholas III (1277-1280) | 27 | Rosa composita |
| 191 | Martin IV (1281-1285) | 28 | Ex teloneo liliacei Martini |
| 192 | Honorius IV (1285-1287) | 29 | Ex rosa leonina |
| 193 | Nicholas IV (1288-1292) | 30 | Picus inter escas |
| 194 | Nicholas IV (1288-1292) | 31 | Ex eremo celsus (elevated from a hermit) Hist.: prior to his election he was a hermit in the monastery of Pouilles |
| 195 | Boniface VIII (1294-1303) | 32 | Ex undarum benedictione |
| 196 | Benedict XI (1303-1304) | 33 | Concionator patereus |
| 197 | Clement V (1305-1314) | 34 | De fessis Aquitanicis (ribbon of Aquitaine) Hist.: was archbishop of Bordeaux in Aquitaine |
| 198 | John XXII (1316-1334) | 35 | De sutore osseo (of the cobbler of Osseo) Hist.: Family name Ossa, son of a shoe-maker |
| Antipope | Nicholas V (1328-1330) | 36 | Corvus schismaticus (the schismatic crow) Note the reference to the schism, the only antipope at this period |
| 199 | Benedict XII (1334-1342) | 37 | Frigidus Abbas (cold friar) Hist.: he was a priest in the monastery of Frontfroid (coldfront) |
| 200 | Clement VI (1342-1352) | 38 | De rosa Attrebatensi |
| 201 | Innocent VI (1352-1362) | 39 | De montibus Pammachii |
| 202 | Urban V (1362-1370) | 40 | Gallus Vice-comes |
| 203 | Gregory XI (1370-1378) | 41 | Novus de Virgine forti (novel of the virgin fort) Hist.: count of Beaufort, later Cardinal of Ste-Marie La Neuve |
| Antipope | Clement VII (1378-1394) | 42 | De cruce Apostilica |
| Antipope | Benedict XIII (1394-1423) | 43 | Luna Cosmedina |
| Antipope | Clement VIII (1423-1429) | 44 | Schisma Barcinonicum |
| 204 | Urban VI (1378-1389) | 45 | De Inferno praegnanti |
| 205 | Boniface IX (1389-1404) | 46 | Cubus de mixtione |
| 206 | Innocent VII (1404-1406) | 47 | De meliore sydere |
| 207 | Gregory XII (1406-1415) | 48 | Nauta de ponte nigro |
| Antipope | Alexander V (1409-1410) | 49 | Flagellum Solis |
| Antipope | John XXIII (1410-1415) | 50 | Cervus Sirenae |
| 208 | Martin V (1417-1431) | 51 | Corona veli aurei |
| 209 | Eugene IV (1431-1447) | 52 | Lupa caelestina |
| Antipope | Felix V (1439-1449) | 53 | Amator crucis |
| 210 | Nicholas V (1447-1455) | 54 | De modicitate lunae |
| 211 | Callistus III (1455-1458) | 55 | Bos pascens (grazing ox) Hist.: Alphonse Borgia's arms sported a golden grazing ox |
| 212 | Pius II (1458-1464) | 56 | De capra et Albergo |
| 213 | Paul II (1464-1471) | 57 | De cervo et Leone |
| 214 | Sixtus IV (1471-1484) | 58 | Piscator Minorita |
| 215 | Innocent VIII (1484-1492) | 59 | Praecursor Siciliae |
| 216 | Alexander VI (1492-1503) | 60 | Bos Albanus in portu |
| 217 | Pius III (1503) | 61 | De parvo homine |
| 218 | Julius II (1503-1513) | 62 | Fructus jovis juvabit |
| 219 | Leo X (1513-1521) | 63 | De craticula Politiana |
| 220 | Adrian VI (1522-1523) | 64 | Leo Florentius |
| 221 | Clement VII (1523-1534) | 65 | Flos pilaei aegri |
| 222 | Paul III (1534-1549) | 66 | Hiacynthus medicorum |
| 223 | Julius III (1550-1555) | 67 | De corona Montana |
| 224 | Marcellus II (1555) | 68 | Frumentum floccidum |
| 225 | Paul IV (1555-1559) | 69 | De fide Petri |
| 226 | Pius IV (1559-1565) | 70 | Aesculapii pharmacum |
| 227 | St. Pius V (1566-1572) | 71 | Angelus nemorosus |
| 228 | Gregory XIII (1572-1585) | 72 | Medium corpus pilarum |
| 229 | Sixtus V (1585-1590) | 73 | Axis in medietate signi |
| 230 | Urban VII (1590) | 74 | De rore caeli |
| 231 | Gregory XIV (1590-1591) | 75 | De antiquitate Urbis |
| 232 | Innocent IX (1591) | 76 | Pia civitas in bello |
| 233 | Clement VIII (1592-1605) | 77 | Crux Romulea |
| 234 | Leo XI (1605) | 78 | Undosus Vir |
| 235 | Paul V (1605-1621) | 79 | Gens perversa |
| 236 | Gregory XV (1621-1623) | 80 | In tribulatione pacis |
| 237 | Urban VIII (1623-1644) | 81 | Lilium et rosa |
| 238 | Innocent X (1644-1655) | 82 | Jucunditas crucis |
| 239 | Alexander VII (1655-1667) | 83 | Montium custos |
| 240 | Clement IX (1667-1669) | 84 | Sydus Olorum (constellation of swans)Hist.: upon his election, he was apparently the occupant of the Chamber of Swans in the Vatican. |
| 241 | Clement X (1670-1676) | 85 | De flumine magno |
| 242 | Innocent XI (1676-1689) | 86 | Bellua insatiabilis |
| 243 | Alexander VIII (1689-1691) | 87 | Poenitentia gloriosa |
| 244 | Innocent XII (1691-1700) | 88 | Rastrum in porta |
| 245 | Clement XI (1700-1721) | 89 | Flores circumdati |
| 246 | Innocent XIII (1721-1724) | 90 | De bona Religione |
| 247 | Benedict XIII (1724-1730) | 91 | Miles in bello |
| 248 | Clement XII (1730-1740) | 92 | Columna excelsa |
| 249 | Benedict XIV (1740-1758) | 93 | Animal rurale |
| 250 | Clement XIII (1758-1769) | 94 | Rosa Umbriae |
| 251 | Clement XIV (1769-1774) | 95 | Ursus velox |
| 252 | Pius VI (1775-1799) | 96 | Peregrinus Apostolicus |
| 253 | Pius VII (1800-1823) | 97 | Aquila rapax |
| 254 | Leo XII (1823-1829) | 98 | Canis et coluber |
| 255 | Pius VIII (1829-1830) | 99 | Vir religiosus |
| 256 | Gregory XVI (1831-1846) | 100 | De balneis hetruriae (bath of Etruria) Hist.: prior to his election he was member of an order founded by Saint Romuald, at Balneo, in Etruria, present day Toscany. |
| 257 | Pius IX (1846-1878) | 101 | Crux de cruce |
| 258 | Leo XIII (1878-1903) | 102 | Lumen in caelo |
| 259 | St. Pius X (1903-1914) | 103 | Ignis ardent (ardent fire) |
| 260 | Benedict XV (1914-1922) | 104 | Religio depopulata |
| 261 | Pius XI (1922-1939) | 105 | Fides intrepida |
| 262 | Pius XII (1939-1958) | 106 | Pastor angelicus |
| 263 | John XXIII (1958-1963) | 107 | Pastor et Nauta (pastor and marine) Hist.: prior to his election he was patriarch of Venice, a marine city, home of the gondolas |
| 264 | Paul VI (1963-1978) | 108 | Flos florum (flower of flowers) Hist.: his arms displayed three lilies. |
| 265 | John Paul I (1978) | 109 | De medietate Lunae (of the half of the moon) Hist.: Albino Luciani, born in Canale d'Ogardo, diocese of Belluno, (beautiful moon) Elected pope on august 26, his reign lasted about a month, from half a moon to the next half... |
| 266 | John Paul II (1978-) | 110 | De labore Solis (of the eclipse of the sun, or from the labour of the sun) Hist.:Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse. He also comes from behind the former Iron Curtain. He might also be seen to be the fruit of the intercession of the Woman Clothed with the Sun labouring in Revelation 12 (because of his devotion to the Virgin Mary). |
| 267 | ??? | 111 | Gloria olivae |
| 268 | ??? | In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, & Iudex tremêdus iudicabit populum suum. Finis. (In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.) |
Carolyn
"Quiet, bigot. No one wants to hear your crap today."
Oh, bite me. The Pope was a GREAT man who deserves all accolades. I just don't hold myself to any superstitious prophecies, especially those concerning "End Times", as every single solitary one of them have been dead-wrong to date.
Besides, if they are true, what's the point of going forward with any hope? If it's prophecized and 'meant to be', why bother living anymore? It's a stupid concept that people need to get over and start trying to change things for the better.
It should not be interpreted as the end of the human race. Revelations tells us that there will be a 1000 year reign of Christ following the Great Tribulation and Jesus's return. So while the Tribulation is a time of judgement on the earth, it's not the final judgement.
I have seen lists with a lot more detail, but I can't find one on the internet. Most of the internet articles just focus on the last 10 popes in interest of time and space. One of the reasons the earlier popes are not discussed in detail, is that the prophecy was lost for several hundred years and when found it so accurately predicted the first 70 or so popes that there is some doubt to it's authenticy.
However, it gained a lot of credibility with the pope that had the title half moon who only served 30 days from one half moon to the next. That also quited many of the claims which questioned whether the prophecy included ALL popes or just the important ones.
Here's a couple more links that discuss the prophecy.
My prediction for the papacy: Jose da Cruz Policarpo
That's interesting -- so JP II was born and buried under solar eclipses.
Past speculation had it that Olive might be a reference to Jewish heritage and the Benedictine Order which also does something like have an olive branch as a symbol, had claimed this pope would come from their order.
Already he has claimed the name "Benedict" which someone said means "of the olive". But I'm wondering if there are stronger links? Is he of Jewish heritage? Or of the Benedictine Order?
To all that read this;
Perhpas the prophecy should be taken with the utmost sincerety. So far St. Malachy's Prophecy has been uncanny in it's accuracy.
Of course we can all dismiss this as a ploy from the Catholic Church (along with all other propechies, i.e. - The Three Days Of Darkness) to scare people into God fearing people...which may turn down some of the chaos in this world...who knows.
However, let's move beyond relegion for a moment. The Aztecs and the Mayans were experts at math and their calendars...though created centuries ago...were accurate to a "t" when predicting solar eclipses - solar eclipses in our present day.
What's the significance here, their calendars stopped at 2013 and 2025, Aztec and Mayan. It was if they were unable to record anything past these years, like they saw nothing.
Unless everything is a coincidence, the Aztecs and Mayans were in correct, the record of God's word is legend/folklore, all prophecies from all prophets throughout time are fallacies, and relegion is a waste of time...I do believe we are nearing the end.
Who knows, perhaps this Pope took that name to spook everyone into believing St. Malachy's Prophecy. Fear of death, the end and satan drives those to God. What better way to gain parishiners and followers.
Just wait and see...the antichrist in many past prophecies (bible and not) has been told to bring about such a peice so wonderful that all will follow and adore him. The new Pope wishes to unite all Christians in one of his latest statements. Perhaps a wish of good will, but never the less, there are too many coincidences happening at the same time.
Read the "Three Days Of Darkness" and take note of the impending signs...do they not speak of today's world...almost exactly.
Say your prayers ladies and gentlemen, I believe the theif in the night is about to make his move.
I believe we will all be around for a very very long time.
The link below - apparently back to the same source - includes the connection to Benedict or Benedictines.
Don't know why the link for this thread omitted it.
http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp
I read somewhere that the Mayan calendar was just a logical stopping point. It's like going into a store and buying a 1 year calendar and assuming that the world ends on Dec 31. Or buying a 10 year calendar and assuming the same thing only 10 years from now on Dec 31.
I'm not familiar with the "Three days of darkness" you are talking about. Do you have a link?
2 Peter 3 First, I want to remind you that in the last days there will be scoffers who will laugh at the truth and do every evil thing they desire.
4 This will be their argument: “Jesus promised to come back, did he? Then where is he? Why, as far back as anyone can remember, everything has remained exactly the same since the world was first created.”
5 They deliberately forget that God made the heavens by the word of his command, and he brought the earth up from the water and surrounded it with water.
6 Then he used the water to destroy the world with a mighty flood.
7 And God has also commanded that the heavens and the earth will be consumed by fire on the day of judgment, when ungodly people will perish.
8 But you must not forget, dear friends, that a day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day.
9 The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise to return, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to perish, so he is giving more time for everyone to repent.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and everything in them will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be exposed to judgment.£
11 Since everything around us is going to melt away, what holy, godly lives you should be living!
12 You should look forward to that day and hurry it along—the day when God will set the heavens on fire and the elements will melt away in the flames.
13 But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world where everyone is right with God.
14 And so, dear friends, while you are waiting for these things to happen, make every effort to live a pure and blameless life. And be at peace with God.
15 And remember, the Lord is waiting so that people have time to be saved. This is just as our beloved brother Paul wrote to you with the wisdom God gave him—
16 speaking of these things in all of his letters. Some of his comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters around to mean something quite different from what he meant, just as they do the other parts of Scripture—and the result is disaster for them.
| 266 | John Paul II (1978-2005) | 110 | De labore Solis (of the eclipse of the sun, or from the labour of the sun) Hist.: Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse. He also comes from behind the former Iron Curtain (the East, where the Sun rises). He might also be seen to be the fruit of the intercession of the Woman Clothed with the Sun labouring in Revelation 12 (because of his devotion to the Virgin Mary). His Funeral occurred on 8 April, 2005 when there was a solar eclipse visible in the Americas. |
| 267 | Benedict XVI (2005-) | 111 | Gloria olivæ The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order, since a branch of the Benedictine order is called the Olivetans. St Benedict is said to have prophesied that before the end of the world, a member of his order would be Pope and would triumphantly lead the Church in its fight against evil. While the Holy Father chose the name "Benedict", this does not seem enough to fulfil the prophecy. Nor is it clear how Benedict XVI (a Bavarian) is "Glory of the Olives". Since he is said to have remarked in the Conclave after saying he would take the name Benedict that it was partly to honour Benedict XV, a pope of peace and reconciliation, perhaps Benedict XVI will be a peacemaker in the Church or in the World, and thus carry the olive branch. |
| In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis diruetur, & Judex tremêdus judicabit populum suum. Finis. (In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.) |
Old thread, I know, but with the new book coming out, Google brought me here...
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