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A Patriot Died Protecting What Sandy Berger Stole And Clinton Laughs

Posted on 04/02/2005 6:43:39 PM PST by Doctor Raoul

Click here and page down to CAPT JOHN PHILIP CROMWELL.

Please consider the facts surrounding CAPT Cromwell's being awarded the Medal of Honor for sacrificing his life to protect Code Word Classified information in a time of war, thereby putting the Berger guilty plea and hand slap in perspective.

Berger stole Code Word Classified information during a time of war.

CAPT Cromwell gave his life to protect it, while Bill Clinton makes a statement (paraphrasing from memory), "...those of us who know Sandy, we're all laughing about it."

Code Word Classification is above Top Secret. It is SCI. That is what the bastard stole and then "lost". Levels of classification (Confidential, Secret, Top Secret, SCI) are based on how much damage is caused to our national security if the information is compromised. Needless to say, what Berger compromised hurt this country was the worst catagory.

Click here to see a definition on "Code Word/SCI" came from a washingtonmonthly.com forum

Here's the text if you can't link:

To answer (and perhaps beat into the ground) the earlier question about classification (and some of you, I know, know this, but this is important).

Up until now there have been three different levels of classification -- confidential, secret and top secret (there used to be another, even lower one called restricted). The difference between them is supposed to be based on the amount of damage done if disclosed, but that has never been clear and there have been moves to eliminate "top secret" as really being redundant. Also, most military and intellegence officers have a secret clearance, or at least must be clearable at that level. These levels date back in some ways to before WWII.

But the amount of top secret information is enormous. Growing out of WWII security schemes like ULTRA and BIGOT is the scheme usually called Secure Compartmentalized Information or SCI. A code word is assigned to a body of information and a restricted list of persons are specifically clearled to have "special access" to that information. The scheme works hierarchically with a single code word covering a large area of activities (called a compartment), with subsidiary words covering subsets of that information. (Hence the title "code-word" classified.) Also, the technical means used to collect information, or the identity of those who collected it are in separate compartments from the information itself. Someone who knows the details of how a satellite works does not necessarily have access to the information gathered by it. A particular person or agency controls just who is indoctrinated for access to a particular compartment. An example (partially real from the 60's) would have been the designation across the cover sheet of a document:

TOP SECRET UMBRA CLIPPER SPOON NOFORN

This would inform you that this was a top secret document that was restricted from distribution to non-US citizens (NOFORN). "UMBRA" was actually at one time the compartment for all communications intelligence. "CLIPPER" might be a subset of it, such as airborne electronic intercepts, and "SPOON" might have been intercepts from North Korea. Someone who had clearance to "UMBRA CLIPPER SPOON" would not have access to "UMBRA CLIPPER BELL" information about China, and someone with simply "UMBRA CLIPPER" clearance would not have access to either. The technician in the next building might have access to "UMBRA LEAFLET COOKIE" information about just how those airborne surviallance systems work, but would not necessarily have any idea what information had been collected using them.

The identity and related information about CIA officers under non-official cover (NOC) overseas is @#%*^$ sensitive, and is restricted to a very tightly held set of compartments. Information about nuclear and other strategic weapons is similarly restricted, but shoud be in separate compartments. In other words, even if you know what information is gathered, you shoud not necessarily know how or by whom. The classification of NOC information tends to stay highly restricted for quite a while. Even if a field officer becomes an analyst, their NOC is preserved to prevent foreign counterintelligence organizations from noticing that last year's business traveler is now working for the CIA -- and making the logical deduction.


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To: Fast1
Exactly what was his government status that allowed him access to sensitive material?

Helping to prepare materials/testimony for the 911 Commission.

21 posted on 04/02/2005 7:28:59 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: softwarecreator

Did you see the thread earlier with an article written by James Carville?

He wrote an article outlining why the Republican Party is stronger than the Democrat Party, but then listed "survey results" that tried to show the opposite---one of the questions on the survey supposedly showed that if the option was available for both Bush and Clinton to run for Pres. for a 3rd term, Clinton would win!

In other words, a sex abuser, liar, is preferable to a religious "war-monger"....

Clinton should be apologizing to every military person for putting them in this position by being delinquent on the job.


22 posted on 04/02/2005 7:30:17 PM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: TexasTransplant
Gimme a Mulligan here folks,

Thomas Jefferson was RIGHT
"We get the Government that we deserve"

Now as far as the other quote, it was JFK at the Whitehouse

"I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

Compared to our Founding Fathers, todays Leadership comes up considerably short, I do believe that just a few short years ago Sandy would have been quietly escorted to the rear of the building and shot, and the report of that weapons discharge would have been heard only by him and the citizen that dispatched him.

This powerful form of Communication seems to have lost favor in our enlightened times, and we suffer for it.

TT
23 posted on 04/02/2005 7:33:26 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Doctor Raoul
OK did not know that thanks!
24 posted on 04/02/2005 7:59:18 PM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart 3/18/05 American was gone when I woke up)
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To: TexasTransplant
Its probly just me, but I immediately thought of Vince Foster.....then Admiral Boorda.
25 posted on 04/02/2005 8:27:39 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: Diogenesis

This makes me comepletely ill. I can't believe that he even plays innocent in saying he didn't know because had he REALLY not known, he wouldn't have had to stuff papers in his pants or his socks! His punishment isn't enough. Banned for 3 years??? He should be banned for LIFE.


26 posted on 04/02/2005 8:55:35 PM PST by Fatigued Mother
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To: Delta 21
I didn't think of Vince Foster
(I will however make it a point to ask Saint Peter when we meet, just exactly how Vince made his departure)
Admiral Boorda had more class wrapped up in his belly button lint than Lt Kerry could ever hope to assemble in all of his houses, yachts, cars, friends and like minded political cohorts combined.
27 posted on 04/02/2005 8:58:16 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Txsleuth
Clinton should be apologizing to every military person for putting them in this position by being delinquent on the job.

He should be apologizing to every American and it's allies for teaming up with Carter and selling America out. These two negotiated deals which made them look like heroes at the time, but now we see they were played for chumps. We are now paying the price and may pay even more in the coming few years.

28 posted on 04/02/2005 9:22:02 PM PST by softwarecreator
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To: softwarecreator

You mean the negotiated deals like the ones that the EU and Russia have made with Iran to supply them with the nuke materials they need to build their weapons to threaten the whole world with?

Those negotiated deals?


29 posted on 04/02/2005 9:28:27 PM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Txsleuth
Yeah. The US is getting it from both ends, the Clinton legacy and our good buddies abroad. So where do we turn now?
30 posted on 04/02/2005 9:37:42 PM PST by softwarecreator
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To: softwarecreator
That should read:

Yeah. The US is getting it from both ends, the Clinton legacy and our good buddies abroad.

So where do we turn now?

I forgot to turn off the italics.

31 posted on 04/02/2005 9:39:25 PM PST by softwarecreator
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To: Doctor Raoul

People like that (Dems, mostly), don't think rules apply to them, and if they find out the rules *do* apply, then they think (with lots of encouragement from the courts) that they can get off with "I'm sorry."


32 posted on 04/02/2005 9:42:44 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: softwarecreator

I guess its like my parents used to tell me growing up--

You just have to learn to rely on YOURSELF and don't expect anyone else to clean up your messes or fix your mistakes..As long as you have you, things will be in your control, which is the safest place.

I guess the good ole US of A needs to rely on OURSELF and don't expect any help from anyone...which is what Bush has pretty much done, but then you get the wussy left like Kerry screaming and hiding under the bed and crying for someone to come "help"....


33 posted on 04/02/2005 9:48:53 PM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Inspectorette; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; Dog Gone
"de-briefed"

This might be a fitting treatment for the little Sandy Burglar creep, except, don't expect me to watch!!!

34 posted on 04/02/2005 9:51:46 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting American's Progress!!!)
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To: Doctor Raoul


Oh rook, nukreer secrets
35 posted on 04/02/2005 9:53:57 PM PST by John Lenin (The constitution has been overthrown....... Isn't protecting the border in there ?)
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To: Txsleuth
"Clinton would win!"

Only if another Perot dude helped like last time!!!

36 posted on 04/02/2005 9:56:21 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting American's Progress!!!)
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To: John Lenin

Priceless!!!


37 posted on 04/02/2005 10:00:20 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting American's Progress!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

The blue smocks are priceless ...


38 posted on 04/02/2005 10:03:12 PM PST by John Lenin (The constitution has been overthrown....... Isn't protecting the border in there ?)
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To: John Lenin

And the Neanderthal foreheads!!!


39 posted on 04/02/2005 10:05:20 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting American's Progress!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
The other guy is saying.

I go trell da boss, chew wait ere
40 posted on 04/02/2005 10:05:29 PM PST by John Lenin (The constitution has been overthrown....... Isn't protecting the border in there ?)
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