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CBS Cameraman Shot By US Troops Under Arrest
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Posted on 04/08/2005 11:46:45 AM PDT by ambrose

CBS Cameraman Shot By US Troops Under Arrest

Troops believe he was working for insurgents, not just covering them as reporter.

Just announced on CNN. Developing...


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
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To: Travis McGee
Russian ammo, for example, is far more effective with the hollow space-penetrator-driver design

Do they make it in 5.56X41 or 7.62x51? I don't currently have a 5.56 although I do have an SKS, so I guess I could shoot some 7.62x39 in that, if they make that ammo in the older caliber.

But our JAGs won't permit our men to use that type of ammo. Beehive rounds are fine, cluster bombs are fine, but decent ammo for the troops is verboten. Go figure.

Not to mention Fuel Air Explosives, and of course Nukes. I'd say we need some new JAGs, and not just on the ammo question. It is kinda weird, since the applicable language of the 1907 Hague Convention prohibits: "(e) To employ arms, projectiles, or material calculated to cause unnecessary suffering". However the earlier 1899 convention stated "The Contracting Parties agree to abstain from the use of bullets which expand or flatten easily in the human body, such as bullets with a hard envelope which does not entirely cover the core, or is pierced with incisions.", so I guess the JAG's are using the early more specific verbiage to define what is meant by "projectiles calculated to cause unnecessary suffering". Pity. Of course the original 5.56 (and the original 7.62x51) ball was not designed to expand or flatten either, rather to yaw due to hydrodynamic instability in flesh or flesh like substances. A bullet going through sideways, after entering point first, dumps it's energy more quickly into the target.

181 posted on 04/08/2005 3:13:23 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: DCPatriot
We sure as heck haven't seen gun battles from behind their enemy lines on the nightly news.

I believe we have, although it may have come via Al Jazzeira. That would be a cute cutout wouldn't it? CBS pays the guy, anything they can't claim as their own goes to Al Jazzeira, and then they put it on as "obtained from Al Jazzeira."

182 posted on 04/08/2005 3:17:04 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: el_texicano

I hope they won't. They need to turn him over to the same folks trying Saddam and his merry band of henchmen. They were all killing their fellow citizens.


183 posted on 04/08/2005 3:19:42 PM PDT by used2BDem (Navy Vet (Navy Mom))
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To: All
More details from CNN:

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A CBS stringer has been arrested as a suspected insurgent, U.S. military officials said Friday.

The video cameraman was wounded during a firefight in northeastern Mosul between U.S. troops and insurgents Tuesday.

U.S. military officials said the man's camera held footage of a number of roadside bomb attacks against American troops, and they believe he was tipped off to those attacks.

A U.S. military statement said troops believe the man "poses an imperative threat to coalition forces" and that he "will be processed as any other security detainee."

CBS said the photographer was hired about three months ago, and it asked news organizations not to identify him.

In a written statement, the network said the man was referred to the network by a "fixer" in Tikrit "who has had a trusted relationship with CBS News for two years."

"It is common practice in Iraq for Western news organizations to hire local cameramen in places considered too dangerous for Westerners to work effectively," the network said.

"The very nature of their work often puts them in the middle of very volatile situations."

One official said at least four videos in the man's camera show roadside bomb attacks on U.S. troops.

All had been shot in a manner that suggested the cameraman had prior knowledge of the attacks and had scouted a shooting location in sight of the target.

"The individual in question was carrying press credentials from CBS News. Military officials detained this individual and are conducting an investigation into his previous activities as well as his alleged support of anti-Iraqi insurgency activities," a U.S. military statement said Friday.

The U.S. military has said that the cameraman was shot by soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry Regiment after it appeared to them he had a weapon.

The U.S. military said the shooting occurred amid the chaos of a suicide bombing and that the cameraman was standing next to an armed insurgent at the time.

U.S. troops have been fighting insurgents in Mosul almost daily.

184 posted on 04/08/2005 3:21:36 PM PDT by saquin
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To: El Gato
and the original 7.62x51

Oops, I meant 7.62x39 Russian stuff.

185 posted on 04/08/2005 3:21:56 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

How often does this happen that we don't hear about? Very very often, I'm afraid. Many of those handy videos of terrorist attacks that surface so quickly in the news media and on websites are shot by these semi-free-lance Arab cameramen who get hooked up with western media outfits.

This pattern was clear with the infamous case of the 10 or 12 year old Palestinian boy whose shooting sparked such endless outrage and helped launch the new "Intifadah" a few years ago -- it has since come out that the French news agency ignored all obvious doubts about the legitimacy of the video and whether it was even Israeli bullets that came anywhere near the boy -- some recent accounts indicate that the Palis were creating propaganda tapes and the French were only too happy to oblige. CBS and others have been complicit in the same kind of activities..... who here is surprised???


186 posted on 04/08/2005 3:21:59 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: DCPatriot
Are you suggesting CBS had knowledge this guy was working for the other side? Most likely they were snookered too.

I'm saying CBS doesn't just mail off press credentials to anyone who claims to own a camera. This guy most likely has a history and a little due dilligence would have turned something up. I would bet he was fully vetted and hired because of his access to the insurgents. They have nothing to lose and he might turn up some choice footage. They would probably never run his routine footage but they probably have a grand time screening his tapes and watching our troops get wasted.
187 posted on 04/08/2005 3:25:03 PM PDT by keat
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To: El Gato
See...I never thought that CBS would run a graphic saying "Al Jezzera TV" unless it were true.

The thing bugging me is Michael Moore.

I would take a bet that this guy was in bed with Michael Moore and CBS granted professional cover in exchange for scoops and front-line footage.

188 posted on 04/08/2005 3:26:39 PM PDT by DCPatriot (member in the WPPFF and class of 98.)
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To: ambrose

I'm willing to bet the film in the camera goes missing.


189 posted on 04/08/2005 3:28:45 PM PDT by rightgrafix
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To: MeanWestTexan
If this is true, CBS will be MUCH worse off then they are now. First Rather trying to mess with the election, now an idiot camera man that some fool at CBS hired to work for the insurgents. These people really have some serious problems. I started boycotting them because of the memos, now I wish that I could double boycott them somehow.
190 posted on 04/08/2005 3:30:28 PM PDT by mazack
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To: mazack

It will be a true test of Bob Shiftier's "integrity" when he has to decide whether to run with this on the CBS Evening News or bury it while it runs all weekend on Fox and CNN.

Maybe he should call Dan and ask what he would do.


191 posted on 04/08/2005 3:34:22 PM PDT by keat
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To: saquin
It's astounding that none of these news reports mention the guy's name, even though it was mentioned two days ago when he was shot but not yet arrested for anything. What's the matter, guys, 'fraid the ACLU will come after you?
192 posted on 04/08/2005 3:42:48 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: All

CBS has a terroist collaborator on staff? How...expected.


193 posted on 04/08/2005 3:57:08 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Coop; Cap Huff; Straight Vermonter

I'm back.....thanks for the pings..


194 posted on 04/08/2005 3:59:41 PM PDT by Dog
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To: inquest
This should have been cured with one round from a 105mm....
195 posted on 04/08/2005 4:10:41 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: lnbchip
A friend of mine in Iraq right now told me that the insurgents go up to the reporters and ask them if they would like to come watch a shelling of US troops or some other attack. The reporters just eat that up and follow the terrorists like little lap dogs.

I heard (on Fox?) that that's what probably happened here. There is an incriminating video.

196 posted on 04/08/2005 4:17:27 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Enchante

For months I have noticed cameramen (both video and still) positioned right there with the terrorists. I wonder if CBS is funding these guys to get this protection/cooperation from the terrorists.


197 posted on 04/08/2005 4:29:02 PM PDT by BigBobCA
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To: MeanWestTexan

CBS employee LITERALLY working for the enemy of the USA.

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Ask me if I am suprised?


198 posted on 04/08/2005 4:29:55 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: sarah_f

CBS - Collaborator Been Shot.


FYI: Viacom's Investor Relations Department: 1-800-516-4399.


199 posted on 04/08/2005 4:30:42 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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CBS News spokeswoman Leigh Farris said, ``We're looking into the situation.''

I think we have all heard that before from CBS


200 posted on 04/08/2005 4:36:41 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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