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Diaperless Babies Seen As Earth-Friendly Solution (Enviro-wacko alert)
CNSNews.com ^ | 4/22/05 | Marc Morano

Posted on 04/25/2005 7:28:34 AM PDT by jalisco555

(CNSNews.com) - As environmentalists celebrate the 34th annual Earth Day, some in the green movement are now advocating "diaper-free" babies to help save the planet.

Citing concerns about plastic disposable diapers clogging landfills and the amount of washing and detergents that cloth diapers require, many environmentalists are taking a page from tribal cultures and seeking to eliminate the use of the baby diapers altogether.

The green movement is now promoting diaperless babies as a "retro, cutting-edge, environmentally friendly scheme" to mothers throughout the industrialized world.

The green movement already has declared war on the modern flush toilet, declaring it an "environmental disaster," and has instead pushed waterless "dry" toilets as an earth-friendly solution.

Former Vice President Al Gore joined the board of a waterless urinal company late last year to further the dry toilet cause and to help avert what many environmentalists believe is a looming international water crisis.

"There is a way to have a baby and NOT use diapers," says one website advocating diaperless babies. Parents are urged to get in tune with their infant's body signals and hold babies over toilets, buckets and shrubbery or any other convenient receptacle when nature calls.

One advocate suggests bringing a "tight-lidded bucket" along to serve as a waste receptacle when mothers take their babies out in public.

'Primitive worship'

But Robert Bidinotto, publisher of ecoNOT.com and a critic of environmentalists, dismisses such notions as "primitive-worship."

"Incredibly, some environmentalists actually prefer that the foul messes we normally capture in diapers and landfills, spill instead onto our linoleum, carpets, and even our children," Bidinotto told CNSNews.com.

Noting many greens' opposition to flush toilets and now baby diapers, Bidinotto said environmentalists' have a "strange affinity for bodily wastes," and he believes they have become "obsessed with toilet issues."

'Be the first in your neighborhood'

Umbra Fisk, advice columnist for Grist Magazine , a major environmental e-publication, has joined the diaperless baby effort.

Responding to a reader's question in the Feb. 12 issue of Grist Magazine about how to handle baby waste in an Earth-friendly manner, Fisk fully endorses the diaper-free movement as a "retro cutting-edge environmentally friendly scheme." Fisk urges parents to "be the first in your neighborhood" to go diaper free.

"People around the world who have no access to diapers manage to raise children, and a small group of parents in diaper-rich countries have decided to follow their lead. Around here, it's called 'elimination communication' or 'diaper-free,'" Fisk wrote.

Fisk argues that changing times mean parents no longer have to change diapers.

"The concept is logical and simple: Infants give recognizable signs of imminent peeing and pooping; it's possible to learn your infant's signs; infant pee isn't frightening; and if you train your kid to ignore their outputs, you'll just have to go back and retrain them when traditional potty-training time arrives," Fisk explained.

Another diaperless baby advocate, who identifies herself as Natec, wrote a how-to manual for prospective mothers of diaperless babies titled, "Elimination Timing: The Solution to the Dirty Diapers War." The manual, which used fictionalized names and characters, describes Natec's motivation to go diaper-free after the birth of her son.

"When David was born, I started to think about the kind of world I was making for him to grow up in. The thought of garbage spewing and sprawling landfills filled me with horror. And right along with this horror were those little mother's helpers, disposable diapers...rotting, but never really going away in all their plastic glory," Natec wrote.

Natec maintains that plastic diapers "can take 500 years to decompose." Natec is not impressed with so-called "biodegradable" diapers, because they "may contain more plastic to compensate for the weakness of their materials."

Although green advocates estimate that diapers account for only between 0.5 to 1.8 percent of landfill space, they nevertheless consider that troubling.

"One percent of billions of tons is worth worrying about. If we don't think about how to address that one percent, which one percent will we address?" asked Richard Dennison, a senior scientist with the Environmental Defense group, as quoted in Natec's how-to manual.

'Evil empire of Western parenting'

Concerns about landfills are not the only reason some parents are going diaperless.

Scott Noelle, editor of the Continuum Concept website and a father, explained why he eventually stopped using diapers on his infant daughter Olivia, in a web essay titled "Going Diaperless."

"In my mind, diapers became the symbol of the Evil Empire of Western Parenting in which babies must suffer to accommodate the needs of their parents' broken-continuum culture: a controlled, sterile, odorless, wall-to-wall carpeted fortress in which to live with the illusion of dominion over nature," wrote Noelle, on the website livingharmony.com.

Despite his concerns, Noelle continued to use diapers on his daughter, despite the fact that he "felt like a monster and a fraud."

Noelle finally chose to go diaperless and looked to traditional cultures for inspiration. "How I longed for a simple, dirt-floored, baby-friendly hut like that of a Yequana family," he wrote.

Natec agrees with Noelle that modern society has a lot to learn from the traditional ways of life.

"[M]any of us have not, until recent years, given credit to the mothering skills of more Earth-centered, i.e. 'primitive" cultures,' she wrote in her how-to manual.

"When you think about it, there have been millions of years of human beings and only a few thousand years with any references to diapers," she added.

But Bidinotto of ecoNOT.com bristles at what he considers the glorification of a "primitive" way of life by diaperless baby advocates.

"These people have no idea what primitive life is really like. Their preferred alternative to today's 'controlled, sterile, odorless' environment is a world of filth and disease, where countless millions died in plagues and epidemics," Bidinotto explained.

Shopping with a diaperless baby

Ingrid Bauer, author of the book "Diaper Free: The Gentle Wisdom of Natural Infant Hygiene," writes on her website natural-wisdom.com that the key for parents interested in going au natural is parent-infant communication.

"Observation and close bonding interaction help the parent to understand the baby's signals, body language and timing rhythms," Bauer writes in the frequently asked questions section of her website

"Some common signals that indicate a need to pee in a young infant are: squirming, "fussing," tensing the face, frowning or having a look of "inner concentration," she wrote.

"When the baby has to go, the parent holds him or her in a comfortable position over an appropriate toilet place and makes a cueing sound (perhaps a gentle "sss")."

What's the parent of a diaperless baby to do when out shopping? Bauer offers this solution.

"These parents may rely on using public bathrooms, or bring along a container such as a tight -lidded bucket," Bauer wrote.

Bauer calls freedom from diapers "responsive infant-care."

"This gentle and ancient practice is the most common way of caring for a baby's hygiene needs in the non-Western world," she writes.

Bidinotto rejects any notion that industrialized nations should mimic the traditional cultures.

"The only thing that we moderns have to learn from primitive cultures is what they themselves learned. They learned that life is much better with modern conveniences, such as diapers. And in fact, most primitive peoples can't wait to get and use such conveniences," Bidinotto explained.

"But now environmentalists want to sentence millions to the filth and drudgery that our ancestors were so eager to escape," he added.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: baby; bigpileopoop; diaper; earthday; environment; envirowacko; green; greens; itsmellsbadinhere; pagingalgore; pee; shiteverywhere
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To: netmilsmom

Abby and Annnie for short.


101 posted on 04/25/2005 8:21:32 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: jalisco555
Noelle finally chose to go diaperless and looked to traditional cultures for inspiration. "How I longed for a simple, dirt-floored, baby-friendly hut like that of a Yequana family," he wrote. . . . Natec agrees with Noelle that modern society has a lot to learn from the traditional ways of life.

I don't know much about the Yequana (who live in Venezuela). However, as a missionary in Guatemala, I saw many "simple, dirt-floored huts" and got a taste of the "traditional ways of life." It is not such a great life.

Once, I participated in a health and welfare survey of the local Indian population. I remember interviewing one family who lived in a "simple, dirt-floored hut." They had three living children; another four children had died in infancy. I was told that in that particular region of highland Guatemala, ten children died every day from measles and other childhood diseases. Crippling, blinding, and disfiguring diseases were common, as was malnutrition.

I would urge these green nitwits to spend five years living the "traditional" way before touting it as the solution to our ills. Frankly, I doubt any of them would last five weeks.

102 posted on 04/25/2005 8:25:50 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: jalisco555
Infants give recognizable signs of imminent peeing and pooping; >/i>
If they do, the time period from the signs to the actual deed is measured in microseconds. How many of these children will get whiplash when parents snatch them up and run to the bathroom?

103 posted on 04/25/2005 8:26:03 AM PDT by wolfpat (dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Conspiracy theory: Proctor & Gamble or Carpet Cleaners of America are behind this....... hmmmm (scratching head)


104 posted on 04/25/2005 8:26:54 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
" Noelle finally chose to go diaperless and looked to traditional cultures for inspiration"


The libs never ever believe that backward people have anything to learn from us. If they are so damn smart, why can't they treat something as simple as cholera?
105 posted on 04/25/2005 8:28:22 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: Logophile

I lived in Mexico for a time and I can tell you that no one voluntarily lives like this fool is describing. They would think you crazy if you told them that living in a hut with a dirt floor was superior to living in a regular house.


106 posted on 04/25/2005 8:29:50 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: jalisco555

What a load of crap!


107 posted on 04/25/2005 8:29:55 AM PDT by KidGlock (Get in the pit and try to love some one)
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To: TXBSAFH

>>Abby and Annnie for short<<

How darling!
There are lots of Stacies around. It's pretty common. Annastasia is not.

I always said, if you want strong women never name them an "E" name. Nicknames yes, full names no.

Good choices!


108 posted on 04/25/2005 8:31:51 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Pope B16-Smacking down Heresy since 1981! God Bless him!)
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To: armymarinemom

Using western-style diapers, rather than split pants, are seen as a status-symbol by young Chinese parents.


109 posted on 04/25/2005 8:32:55 AM PDT by writmeister
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To: jalisco555
to get in tune with their infant's body signals and hold babies over toilets, buckets and shrubbery or any other convenient receptacle when nature calls.

You can get into trouble if, while walking your doggie, the critter decides to stop in front of an envirowacko's house to do the very same thing. You see, the "hierarchy of life," as far as a liberal is concerned, looks like this: At the bottom of the list, human beings -- followed by so-called "animals" (aka "companions") -- followed by trees and shrubs at the top of the list. I recall a news item in which a New York doctor stormed out of his home and shot a dog who was peeing on "his" tree, even though the tree was on a public sidewalk. [Never mind that the dog family has been on this earth longer than the human race!] I don't imagine that human babies would fare any better with such green-nazis.

110 posted on 04/25/2005 8:34:16 AM PDT by albertp (Malice in Blunderland, The Wizard of Odd, Gullible's Troubles! Steal the wealth, spread the poverty.)
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To: jalisco555

Scrappleface, right?


111 posted on 04/25/2005 8:36:26 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: jalisco555

Speaking of "primitive worship" did anyone see Drew Barrymore and Cameron Diaz in 'Trippin' last week? I heard it was insane. These two pampered Hollywood wierdos were saying how great it was to "take a poo in the woods hunched over lika an animal".


112 posted on 04/25/2005 8:36:33 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: netmilsmom

Guess my parents missed that one. Not only did I get an "E" name, it's a boy's "E" name. hmmmm...


113 posted on 04/25/2005 8:38:28 AM PDT by Peanut Gallery
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To: writmeister
Using western-style diapers, rather than split pants, are seen as a status-symbol by young Chinese parents.

It is funny when wackos think of alternatives to promote that other societies are putting into the move along category. I swear I think some of these enviro wackos are just adults who were never supervised as children.

114 posted on 04/25/2005 8:39:56 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: shebacal
....modern society has a lot to learn from the traditional ways of life.

Like filth, disease, pestilence and death.

115 posted on 04/25/2005 8:40:29 AM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: oyez
Like filth, disease, pestilence and death.

As long as we're getting in touch with our true nature let's get rid of dentistry as well.

116 posted on 04/25/2005 8:43:41 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: jalisco555
A parallel thread points to an oiless future. If we were to recycle organic waste it could be processed into OIL!!!

A cogent energy policy, something the Democraps, (see they could be processed into oil as well), on't comprehend, would use every iota of creativity to solve our energy situation.

Windmills, OTEC, Lunar fusion energy should all be pursued.

OTEC

117 posted on 04/25/2005 8:43:48 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: DugwayDuke

Sad, but true!


118 posted on 04/25/2005 8:48:15 AM PDT by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: jalisco555
As long as we're getting in touch with our true nature let's get rid of dentistry as well.

That reminds me of one young woman I met in Totonicapan, Guatemala. As I recall, she was just fifteen. Her teeth were so bad and were giving her such problems that she had them all pulled.

119 posted on 04/25/2005 8:52:16 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: jalisco555
The ultimate enviro-purist would have to commit suicide by drowning in a crab-pot??

Pray for W and Our Troops

120 posted on 04/25/2005 8:52:35 AM PDT by bray (Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
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