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Treatments: Artery Cleanup Misses Its Mark
NY Times ^ | April 26, 2005 | ERIC NAGOURNEY

Posted on 04/29/2005 5:37:26 PM PDT by neverdem

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Here are the abstracts.

Azithromycin for the Secondary Prevention of Coronary Events

Antibiotic Treatment of Chlamydia pneumoniae after Acute Coronary Syndrome

1 posted on 04/29/2005 5:37:27 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


2 posted on 04/29/2005 5:38:40 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: theheebrewhammer

Thanks for the link.


5 posted on 04/29/2005 5:56:48 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: theheebrewhammer

nanobacteria freak me out.


6 posted on 04/29/2005 6:00:19 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: neverdem
"...were given either a once-a-week antibiotic or a placebo..."

Well.....maybe they should give the antibiotic MORE than ONCE a week???

7 posted on 04/29/2005 6:57:28 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: goodnesswins

Great link on nanobacteria - the calcium shells would seem to require more than antibiotics more than once a week.

I was always intrigued by bacteria link between ulcers and plaque - this seems to make sense.


8 posted on 04/29/2005 7:06:28 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: goodnesswins

And maybe they should give it prospectively to people who do not already have plaque build-up.


9 posted on 04/29/2005 7:08:03 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: theheebrewhammer; bitt; All
I've heard about nanobacteria before, but not much. PubMed had 59 citations. The following link free full text articles.

Association Between Nanobacteria and Periodontal Disease

Attempted Isolation of Nanobacterium sp. Microorganisms from Upper Urinary Tract Stones

Inhibition of Nanobacteria by Antimicrobial Drugs as Measured by a Modified Microdilution Method

An alternative interpretation of nanobacteria-induced biomineralization

Nanobacteria and associated ‘elementary bodies’ in human disease and cancer

Nanobacteria: An alternative mechanism for pathogenic intra- and extracellular calcification and stone formation

10 posted on 04/29/2005 7:22:55 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: goodnesswins
Well.....maybe they should give the antibiotic MORE than ONCE a week???

I wonder how many folks became ill with yeast or some other fungus, especially in the other study.

11 posted on 04/29/2005 7:32:43 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: From many - one.; spanalot

Well....I'm taking minocycline 2x a day.....long term.....I'll let you know if it works....LOL (THIS is kind of interesting to me, as I've got some kind of inflammation problem, which MAY be Lyme Disease....the Rheum Docs want it to be Rheumatoid Arthritis....but, I'm fairly confident it is NOT.....I'm still trying to get it figured out.)


12 posted on 04/29/2005 7:33:56 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: neverdem

See Post 12.....I haven't had a problem YET....and it's been about 7 months.....


13 posted on 04/29/2005 7:35:33 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: neverdem

See Post 12.....I haven't had a problem YET....and it's been about 7 months.....


14 posted on 04/29/2005 7:35:39 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: goodnesswins

Elevated ANA but negative RA?


15 posted on 04/29/2005 7:38:55 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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NO....don't think my ANA was even elevated much....but, I'd have to check for sure. How ya doin?


16 posted on 04/29/2005 7:43:38 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: spanalot
Much more on the topic of germs, heart disease and antibiotics here.
17 posted on 04/29/2005 7:44:16 PM PDT by The Radical Capitalist
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To: Judith Anne

NO....don't think my ANA was even elevated much....but, I'd have to check for sure. How ya doin?


18 posted on 04/29/2005 7:45:52 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: goodnesswins

Sorry for all the double posts....I'm having computer problems....OBVIOUSLY.


19 posted on 04/29/2005 7:48:52 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: goodnesswins

I started with an elevated ANA and negative RA, and after a year, positive RA.

I'm doing okay. I'm still using high-dose aspirin and staying away from the nightshade family, and taking myrrh capsules, and using 1-2 Ultram 50 per day.

And I'm able to be very active, physically. Occasionally I am REALLY tired for no reason, but other than that, I'm doing okay. My pain level is in the tolerable range. Hand joints swell and subside on a daily basis.


20 posted on 04/29/2005 7:49:30 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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