Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

More 20-somethings depending on parents again
The Sun News ^ | 5/2/05 | Rick Montgomery

Posted on 05/02/2005 8:31:54 AM PDT by qam1

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - (KRT) - Signs of the new normal for young adults seem to be piling up like ripe sweat socks in the bedroom of your 20-something son down the hall.

We used to dismiss it as a "slacker" thing - an odd fad, we thought, of a generation that appeared content to take its sweet time before leaving the nest, finishing college, getting married and making commitments their parents began considering at 18.

Researchers now prefer the term "adultescence," and they're not kidding. The life stage between the late teens and late 20s is undergoing what many describe as a permanent transformation brought on by economic, educational and even biological forces, all irreversible.

"It has happened quietly, and it's here to stay," said David Morrison, president of Twentysomething Inc., a market research firm that has tracked the lifestyles of young adults for 15 years. "The stigma of depending on your parents is gone."

Consider some of the factors: Grinding college debt. Spiraling home values. An ideal of marriage, tempered by a culture of divorce, that waits for the perfect soul mate.

Gone is the labor economy of high-paying factory jobs that once offered a lifetime of security after high school. Here to stay, at least for a few more decades, are baby-boom parents who easily fret and don't mind indulging their kids.

When will we - or should we - grow up?

Here are the latest indicators of a society willing to wait:

The average age of U.S. women marrying for the first time has climbed from about 21 to 26 since 1970.

The average age of first-time homebuyers has climbed from 29 to 33 in the last decade.

Four-year bachelor's degrees now usually take five years to complete. Students juggle more and longer internships, often unpaid, enabling workplaces to get by without expanding their staffs.

One in five 26-year-olds is living with a parent, according to a recent Time cover story that coined yet another generational label, "twixters."

They are "a new breed of young people who won't - or can't? - settle down," the magazine proclaimed. "They're betwixt and between."

In March even the U.S. Supreme Court weighed in on the elastic state of maturity, bumping up to 18 the minimum age that young murderers can face execution for their crimes.

Before ruling, the court reviewed new studies showing some areas of judgment and reason in the brain do not fully develop until well into a person's 20s.

So, get used to adultescents - also known as the "kidults," "thresholders," and "boomerang babies." Sociologists say we will be seeing more in years to come.

In fact, their numbers are multiplying worldwide: Germany calls them nesthockers, or nest squatters. Italy has charted a 50 percent increase since 1990 in mammones, or people who won't eat anywhere but mama's.

In fast-growing Asian nations, living with the folks is the custom.

In the Kansas City region, more college graduates are returning home to stay a spell with their parents, and more parents seem happy to help in the face of harsh economic truths.

"My dad couldn't wait to see me come back," said Brandee Smith, 25, who last year stopped throwing her monthly paycheck at an Overland Park, Kan., apartment and returned to her childhood home. She is now stowing away savings from her marketing job to make a down payment on a house of her own.

"It's nice to come home after a 10-hour workday with dinner already made and brownies waiting," the University of Kansas graduate said. "Even though you've graduated, a lot of parents don't see you as a complete adult."

Or, in the prevailing view, 21st-century market forces won't let you become a complete adult.

"I used to think raising kids was a 21-year commitment, but now I think it's more like 25 to 28 years," said Pat Stilen, a single mother in the Northland who welcomed back daughter Mary Stilen a few years ago.

Mary, then a recent graduate of the University of Nebraska, was working in a restaurant while struggling to land a career tied to her broadcast journalism major.

An 18-month stay in mom's basement allowed Mary Stilen to pay off $5,000 in credit card bills, make a dent in her student loans, replace the car she had been driving since 16 and recalibrate her future. Now she works in a dean's office at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, where she is close to receiving a master's of business administration degree.

She and her mother wonder how Mary would have landed on her feet otherwise.

"I'd encourage parents to get past their old expectations of when kids will become independent," Pat Stilen said. "Economic times are such, the rules have to change."

The rules already have shifted for a generation that, so far, isn't living as well now compared with when their parents got rolling. For full-time workers between ages 25 and 34, annual earnings adjusted for inflation dropped 17 percent from 1971 to 2002.

Other evidence indicates young adults are choosing to wait longer for their independence. And as life expectancy climbs, experts think that's OK. Could putting off a long-term commitment such as home-buying stave off bankruptcy down the road?

"Some of this is choice, but so much more relates to jobs and the economy," said Robert Thompson, a professor of pop culture at Syracuse University. "Used to be, at 18, you could start testing the waters of adulthood. ... Now, it's a master's degree and beyond to stay ahead.

"It's not so much that society is getting used to it. It's that social and economic forces have set it up in the first place."

Delayed adulthood appears to be taking root in the teen years - driving a car, for example.

As of 2002, only 43 percent of youths ages 16 and 17 were licensed drivers, down from 52 percent a decade earlier, according to a recent report of the Federal Highway Administration and the U.S. Census Bureau.

Although America boasts about a half-million more teens in that age group than two decades ago, those with driver's licenses dropped from 4.1 million to 3.5 million.

"Every generation has its rites of passage, and it used to be getting a driver's license," said Janet Rose, a lecturer of American studies at UMKC. "But at the moment, something like body piercing seems as meaningful a rite of passage."

Soaring gasoline prices don't help. Neither do high insurance costs, especially for the young. Both of these factors have spurred public schools to drop driver education unless a huge fee comes with it.

"I've got friends who drive and some who don't - it's pretty equal," said Patrick Camacho of Lenexa, Kan., who is taking courses at the Kansas Driving School so he may get his license the week he turns 17. "I want to be able to go where I want."

But given that teens are far more accident-prone than are drivers in their 30s, it may be that yesterday's notions about the entry age of adulthood were nonsense.

As the Supreme Court found in reconsidering the death penalty for youths, the latest science shows strong evidence that areas of the brain mature slower than researchers traditionally thought.

Forget the old method of simply weighing brains to determine growth: at age 18 or 40, they seem identical. Yet when it comes to gray matter and the millions of cerebral connections that make humans think like adults, magnetic resonance imaging reveals the wiring may not be fully complete until the mid- to late-20s.

The connections related to impulse, judgment and "thinking ahead" are the last to be soldered.

At Harvard Medical School, researchers have found that youths as old as 17 don't always tap the same brain areas as do 30-year-old subjects when shown photos of people's faces and asked to name the correct emotion.

"If someone insults you at work, an older teen is more likely to throw a punch where an adult would pause and make a sarcastic comment," said sociologist James Cote of the University of Western Ontario.

Before today's "emerging adults" feel ready to plunge into the real world, some such as Anthony Shop choose to pace themselves in hopes of getting it right the first time.

Shop is a senior at William Jewell College. He has a Truman Scholarship to attend the graduate school of his pick. First he'll spend at least a year trying out jobs in journalism, speechwriting or something dealing in international relations.

"Right now I'm thinking international relations ... but it kind of changes by the month," said Shop. "At 22, I don't think it's necessary to choose a permanent career, so long as I'm exploring and thinking about it. Some people have no idea."

Hardly a slacker, Shop already has seen England and Germany as a student. So why wait longer to complete his studies?

It's partly because graduate admissions officials recommend it.

Grab an internship or two, or even six. See other places, try different fields, know what you want, enjoy. It's as much the advice of boomers as it is the natural calling of adultescents.

"We're probably hearing that more from family and professionals in their 40s and 50s," Shop said. "People of that generation look back and think maybe they could've taken more time."

While caution beats rushing into a chosen field, sociologist Cote places some of the cause of stalled adulthood on elders dishing up "false promises and false hopes" to the young.

"We give everyone as much choice as possible. We tell them they all can become doctors or lawyers, when we know the truth is relatively few people wind up there," Cote said. "That's either too much hope or we're lying to them."

Scott Kramer, 37, knows.

He was 18 when he first entered college, and his circuitous journey through academia continues. Now a KU graduate student, Kramer finally will land a master's degree in higher education administration next month.

"If you think back to the mid-80s, when I started, all the yuppies were living life in the fast lane," Kramer said. "The message was: Go out and get it now."

So he tried. Just two weeks after Kramer graduated from high school, his impulses - overcharged by the breakup of his parents - drove him to enter Ball State University in Indiana.

That college dismissed him a couple of times as Kramer jumped from one hot-ticket pursuit to the next.

"Gosh, I've had so many majors," he said: accounting, chemical technology, exercise physiology. He gave up classes for a stretch in the 1990s, worked full time and got married. In the late-`90s economic boom, he enrolled full time at Purdue University in hopes of becoming a financial planner.

"In `99, I'd listen to all the experts about going into financial planning. ... Then the economy went bad." And his marriage fell apart. He moved back in with his mother before he landed at KU.

Here, he may have found his true calling.

Interning at KU's Student Involvement and Leadership Center, Kramer assists nontraditional students wade through financial needs, child-care issues and life's ever-changing expectations.

He wants to make a career of it.

"This," Kramer has discovered, "is my niche."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: adulthood; generationy; genx; geny
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140141-153 next last
To: RockinRight
I hear that. I moved out of my parent's house two days after graduating from HS (mid-80's). I had just turned 17 (skipped 10th grade) right before graduation and my folks had to sign the lease on my studio apartment because I was still a minor.

I was at that age that I "knew" everything and decided that I was going to take a few years off before going to college. I worked to two crappy jobs to afford my place. I didn't care because I had my "freedom". Well surprise, surprise, the folks "knew" even more and told me that they would not support me..and they didn't. After two years I saw the light and went to college.

On the day of my college graduation the folks told me that their checkbook was officially closed. Their graduation gift to me was a check for security deposit and first month's rent for a new apartment; had already landed a job.

That was the final push from the nest.
101 posted on 05/02/2005 11:49:54 AM PDT by ut1992 (Army Brat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: cyborg
I am just using cyborg's post as a jumping off point, since it's the last one I came across.
My husband likes to say that he is the only one of his family who did not come back home. Of course not. When we were 20 we moved in with my dad. But, it was only for a few months. We have lived on our own since.
The conversation about degrees is interesting. Since I homeschool I have wondered what would be the best way to guide my children in about 10 years when the first is in the college years. I told them we would try to help out, but we would not be paying their way through college (we have five children), if they want us to be able to take care of ourselves when we grow old.
What are the best suggestions in the next ten or twenty years to get into a god job market?
102 posted on 05/02/2005 11:56:48 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Walk Softly, For a Dream is Born)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 100 | View Replies]

To: HungarianGypsy

Right now the health field looks good. I intend on staying in it for as long as possible.


103 posted on 05/02/2005 12:00:45 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies]

To: HungarianGypsy

BTW, I should have said good job market, not god job market. :-)


104 posted on 05/02/2005 12:01:48 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Walk Softly, For a Dream is Born)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies]

To: HungarianGypsy

BTW, I should have said good job market, not god job market. :-)


105 posted on 05/02/2005 12:01:51 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Walk Softly, For a Dream is Born)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies]

To: Flightdeck

"My brother had to live with my folks for a few months after college, and they charged him $400/month rent. I thought that was pretty funny."

Several years ago we charged my daughter nominal rent to live with us (she was out of school and working). Of course, we put her rent in the bank and returned the money to her when she rented and moved to an apartment three years ago. More recently my son and his wife (expecting) moved in with us for several months whild he was relocating and starting a new job. We didn't charge them rent as they were actively saving for a house which they bought and moved into in February. In both cases we were supportive parents, not landlords, and the kids had a plan. We enjoyed it all but Mom (now Grandma) and I were glad to see them move on.


106 posted on 05/02/2005 12:09:01 PM PDT by Big Digger (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: peter the great
One other aspect that will probably be missed is that the support network that people used to have is no longer what it used to be. Years ago people would marry younger but even then you had relatives real close by to lend a helping hand that is not the case today.

Bingo!

I don't live with my folks, but they, my grandparents, my brother and myself all live within 15 minutes of each other. We share burdens without having to live under the same roof. So many broken families don't have that option. Often a kid lives at home just to help the single mom make ends meet.

One of the most vocal proponents of strong family ties I ever met was an atheist social anthropology professor I had. He advocated American families actually incorporating and pooling resources much like the families in tribal cultures. Because we're all taught to believe we need to strike out on our own, instead of building on what previous generations have accomplished, every American generation is continually starting from scratch.

It was about the only sane thing I ever remember him saying.
107 posted on 05/02/2005 12:20:19 PM PDT by larryav8r
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: qam1
"Every generation has its rites of passage, and it used to be getting a driver's license," said Janet Rose, a lecturer of American studies at UMKC. "But at the moment, something like body piercing seems as meaningful a rite of passage."

Body piercings? I guess in my mid-30's I still haven't grown up yet.

108 posted on 05/02/2005 12:26:00 PM PDT by shekkian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #109 Removed by Moderator

Comment #110 Removed by Moderator

To: macaroona

Great post, I agree. I live with my family but I'm no sponge, in fact, my brother and I pay most of the household bills (my parents have fallen on hard times). I also cook all the meals. In exchange, I get a safe environment to work on my own goals.


111 posted on 05/02/2005 12:32:41 PM PDT by DameAutour
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

Comment #112 Removed by Moderator

To: qam1

I think it might have something to do with the parents not wanting to give them up. I work with 3 50 yo's who have college age kids...all of them encoaraged their kids to go to school close to home and all of them are in contact daily..much closer than I was to my parents at that age. Hell one of them even tracked his kid on springbreak via cellphone.


113 posted on 05/02/2005 12:36:19 PM PDT by dg62
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: qam1
*sigh

But it's hard to pay those huge CC bills they racked up in order to live in the style that Mommy and Daddy got them accustomed to.
114 posted on 05/02/2005 12:38:30 PM PDT by WolfRunnerWoman (I want closure on the word "closure".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blueminnesota
Would you rather have them depending on their families or depending on welfare? With housing prices what they are sometimes that is the option. It's not always about being sponges. Anyway, if the parents agree to it it's nobody else's business.

Amen and thank you. If the 'kid' in question is working or going to grad school, contributing to the family coffers (I don't think they should live for free, but neither should they pay market rates), and doing chores, what in the world is wrong with them being at home? What happened to a happy family life and enjoying your children, no matter what their age?

Just my two cents, but I bet those who are at home are at least living somewhat more wholesome lives than many of the young adults out on their own.

115 posted on 05/02/2005 12:44:53 PM PDT by radiohead (revote in washington state)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: qam1
Researchers now prefer the term "adultescence," and they're not kidding. The life stage between the late teens and late 20s is undergoing what many describe as a permanent transformation brought on by economic, educational and even biological forces, all irreversible.

IRREVERSIBLE ? I've got 6000+ years of civilized history that says my son's gonna do just fine when he hits the bricks at 18.

Come by for a meal, stay for a couple months if you hit hard times, borrow some money, but you don't live here anymore.

116 posted on 05/02/2005 12:44:58 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The rule of law is dead in this country)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JimRed

My 27 yr old daughter is back ..........WITH 2 grandkids. Full House! She's been divorced and struggling.......then decided to go back to school. This may take awhile. lol


117 posted on 05/02/2005 12:46:27 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas .....wimmen!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: Myrddin

I think for being so smart and smug you should write in complete sentences. I guess you already know your that smart though?


118 posted on 05/02/2005 12:59:28 PM PDT by Waterleak (I pity the fool)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

To: A. Pole
This a normal human arrangement. Children when they grow up they become the heads of the household and their old parents "live at home".

That way the old parents/grandparents have place to stay and well deserved support while they contribute to the care for grandchildren. Nothing more normal! Sooner this age-long and correct custom is restored the better.


I agree. I think we all bought into the idea that when a kid turns 18, "birds must fly, fish must fry" as the saying goes, but in my earlier point, it was more or less an abberation in the mid to late 20th Century. I know someone elsem ade the point too but in rural areas, when a kid gets married, he was given a plot of land to farm or if his family was in a business a certain responsibility in the business with the aim of running it someday. Even if the parents are old but still able to work or do something, they pitched in, either with everyone else or handle the easier tasks. As much I deplore the way the economy is headed, the only good thing about it is hopefully we will turn back to our families and God again, adversity often does that. When I read those old books I mentioned ("Susan Lenox" for example), the downside is that they still emphasize the material side of things while discounting the spiritual side or muting it and staying focused on the dark side so at times, they do fall short, but they still hold a lot of truth to where things were and could be going.
119 posted on 05/02/2005 1:10:55 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: xsrdx
That has to have a lot to do with it - the electronics, automotive and "home improvement" industries have every 20 year old thinking he/she has to have a 60" plasma on the wall and a BMW in the driveway - MTV Cribs and whatnot.

Valid points as well. In my case, I'm still watching the same TV we got when I was in 10th grade, a 1982 Zenith that we got in early 1983. Heck, when we got that TV, it was cable ready and MTV came in fine, trouble is, they only played music videos then. B-)
120 posted on 05/02/2005 1:14:52 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140141-153 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson