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Deportation sought for couple in West Toledo U.S. says pair here illegally since 1996
Blade staff writer ^ | March 26, 2005 | By ROBIN ERB

Posted on 05/05/2005 10:14:09 AM PDT by iconoclast

In the predawn semidarkness of a small West Toledo apartment, Dae and Yung Jung stumbled toward the thumping at their front door.

Seconds later, officers in dark jackets emblazoned with Homeland Security crammed into the couple's living room demanding passports and drivers' licenses. Mrs. Jung was escorted to jail. Upstairs, the couple's son, Andrew, hid, stunned and baffled.

Now, five weeks later, immigration officials still press for Yung and Dae Jung's deportation to their native land, South Korea. But the couple - Dae Jung is a sushi chef; Yung Jung is a longtime school volunteer - are finding that their support from their churches, their son's school, and even a congressman is continuing to mount.

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I'm anxious to see how FReepers react to this story.

I find it a tragic outrage.

(IMHO). These folks represent all that is good in the old fashioned idea what an immigrant should be.

The parents are humble, the father soft-spoken and hard working, the wife cheery, outgoing and anxious to be a good American neighbor. The son is bright, ambitious, and personable.

This just isn't my idea of what Homeland Security should all about.

1 posted on 05/05/2005 10:14:11 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: iconoclast

Sounds like they would be better off if they were hispanic.


2 posted on 05/05/2005 10:16:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


3 posted on 05/05/2005 10:16:33 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

Thanks!


4 posted on 05/05/2005 10:17:30 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


5 posted on 05/05/2005 10:19:08 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: iconoclast

On the one hand, Koreans and other Orientals do make good immigrants so maybe they should cut them some slack. Also, why is Homeland Security interested in these people rather than the INS? Shouldn't they be looking for potential terrorists?

On the other hand, the law is the law. Is it fair to toss out Mexicans and leave Koreans? We have to draw a line and stick to it.


6 posted on 05/05/2005 10:19:45 AM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: blackie

For every CRIMINAL, there are friends and family saying " They are good people and only made one small mistake."


7 posted on 05/05/2005 10:22:27 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Love a Duck MOLLY MAUK)
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To: iconoclast
"(IMHO). These folks represent all that is good in the old fashioned idea what an immigrant should be."

A real sad story. However, there is probably a billion more honorable folks like these outside the USA that would like to come to America!

Let all who wish to come here apply through LEGAL channels.

8 posted on 05/05/2005 10:23:19 AM PDT by Dacus943
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To: stinkerpot65
On the other hand, the law is the law. Is it fair to toss out Mexicans and leave Koreans? We have to draw a line and stick to it.

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

9 posted on 05/05/2005 10:26:03 AM PDT by Grut
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To: iconoclast

There seems to be alot of extraneous information in this article, designed to tug our heartstrings. I don't think it's germain that the wife is nice and does volunteer work.
The important point is, were they here illegally, and did they know it. I cannot tell for sure from the article (maybe we aren't meant to be able to tell).
Maybe the hoops we expect people to jump thru are unreasonable. If so, let's change the process. On the other hand, let's not give someone a free ride because they are nice people. Lots of hispanic immigrants who cross via the rio grande are very nice people too.
susie


10 posted on 05/05/2005 10:29:35 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: iconoclast

I think it's a shame they go after this couple when there are so many thousands of gang bangers walking around.


11 posted on 05/05/2005 10:30:37 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Grut

My nit-wit sister lived on St. Maarten for 25 yeras. She had a fight with her husband and let her Immigration Status expire. Guess what? She can't go back to the house she owns. Because it's not her country.


12 posted on 05/05/2005 10:31:23 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: stinkerpot65
Also, why is Homeland Security interested in these people rather than the INS? Shouldn't they be looking for potential terrorists?

INS doesn't exist anymore. The agency was split up into Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE, criminal investigators) and Customs & Border Protection (CBP, inspectors) as part of the Department of Homeland Security.

The article doesn't say it, but I'm sure that they were ICE agents doing the raid.

I'm equally sure that these two did *something* to attract ICE's attention. What were they involved in when they left South Korea?

13 posted on 05/05/2005 10:33:59 AM PDT by Terabitten (I have a duty as an AMERICAN, not a Republican. We can never put Party above Nation.)
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To: iconoclast
The Jungs had been married about a year when they arrived in Toledo in 1984 so Mr. Jung could attend UT. Graduating with average grades 10 years later, he took his family - the Jungs by now had a 4-year-old son, Andrew - back to Korea in 1995. But the return was heart-breaking, he said. The Seoul area was congested and busy and noisy. Young Andrew could not communicate well with other Korean children. The couple, who had spent most of their adult life in Toledo, longed for the greener, more open spaces of the Midwest, Mr. Jung said.

They decided to return, and Mr. Jung applied for a second student visa, saying he wanted to study at a language school in Michigan. But when he returned to Toledo, he changed his mind, ultimately deciding to return to UT to study accounting.

When he wrote to the INS to tell them of his new plan, they denied continuation of his visa.

"The evidence clearly indicates that you did not intend to attend the Michigan Language Center and therefore entered the United States fraudulently," Robert Brown, INS district director, wrote to Mr. Jung in a letter dated Nov. 21, 1995.

How many of the 9/11 hijackers were here on student visas? 10 years of studying at the University of Toledo? These people abused the student visa program, and they knew what they were doing, and what the potential consequences were.
14 posted on 05/05/2005 10:34:52 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: stinkerpot65

Homeland security is going after them because of the Korean connection. If it was the INS they wouldn't do anything just like all the illegals that are already here that they can't touch.


15 posted on 05/05/2005 10:34:58 AM PDT by Rushgrrl (~brought to you from the illegal-rich state of California~)
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To: stinkerpot65
On the other hand, the law is the law.

Respectfully, the LAWS are the LAWS. As the immigration laws have become increasingly complex, they have become increasingly silly, insensitive and potentially abusive.

As thousands upon thousands troop across our border while "Homeland Security" beats on this good Christian family's door the respect for law swirls around the drain.

JMO

16 posted on 05/05/2005 10:35:28 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: blackie

Minute Man can you even fire a gun....? Betcha could not hit the side of a barn from ten yards....


17 posted on 05/05/2005 10:36:34 AM PDT by docholliday202002
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
For every CRIMINAL

As I bite my tongue, God is putting a star in my crown. ;o)

Have a nice day. (/sarc)

18 posted on 05/05/2005 10:40:48 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: iconoclast
These folks represent all that is good in the old fashioned idea what an immigrant should be.

except butting ahead of the line and stealing SS Numbers...
19 posted on 05/05/2005 10:42:23 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: cripplecreek; iconoclast
Middle and upper class hispanic immigrants who immigrate LEGALLY are put through HELL by INS. Just ask my former Colombian, Venezuelans and Panamanian cohorts at the bank I used to work at.

In short, if you're here to pick grapes or wash dishes, we'll look the other way. However, if you come here to start a business or work as a loan officer, we'll come after you.

20 posted on 05/05/2005 10:42:26 AM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: iconoclast

We need to make CRIMINAL INVASION a felony with a minimum one year jail and a $10,000 fine for first time invader.
We need to make aiding and abetting CRIMINAL INVADERS a felony with a minimum one year in jail with a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL abetted.


21 posted on 05/05/2005 10:42:45 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Love a Duck MOLLY MAUK)
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To: iconoclast

" These folks represent all that is good in the old fashioned idea what an immigrant should be."

Do people get a free pass on the law? The husband has admitted he did things wrong. Sorry, but these folks needs to get inline with the rest of the world's populace that wants to immigrate to the USA.

What other laws do these people want to simply ignore?


22 posted on 05/05/2005 10:43:03 AM PDT by politicalwit (USA...A Nation of Selective Law Enforcement.)
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To: Dacus943
Let all who wish to come here apply through LEGAL channels.

They've done their best to adhere to the law and have been unmercifully victimzed by gubmint red tape.

God willing the situation will never be reversed for you and you have to slog past an army of bureaucrats with whom you do not share a common language, and without sufficient legal advice.

May the black jackets never knock on your door.

23 posted on 05/05/2005 10:49:40 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Grut
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

I may be going out on a limb here, but I don't think Ralph was referring to consistency as in the consistent application of the law.

24 posted on 05/05/2005 10:52:01 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: iconoclast
God willing the situation will never be reversed for you and you have to slog past an army of bureaucrats with whom you do not share a common language, and without sufficient legal advice.

Or worse, have to get your drivers license renewed in California.

25 posted on 05/05/2005 10:58:54 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: brytlea
There seems to be alot of extraneous information in this article, designed to tug our heartstrings.

Well Suzie if you need your heartstrings tugged, you need only to meet Mr. Jung. I didn't just pick this article off of Drudge or some blog. I posted this article because I felt it summarized the situation better that I could.

My grandkids go to school with this fine young man. This is a family that does not not deserve this harassment.

26 posted on 05/05/2005 10:59:25 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Clemenza
"Middle and upper class hispanic immigrants who immigrate LEGALLY are put through HELL by INS. Just ask my former Colombian, Venezuelans and Panamanian cohorts at the bank I used to work at.

In short, if you're here to pick grapes or wash dishes, we'll look the other way. However, if you come here to start a business or work as a loan officer, we'll come after you."


The INS, State Dept, formerly democrat controlled congress and present day Rinos institutionalized the practice of giving preferential treatment to the least educated and poorest applicants, the most obvious example being the Hmong tribesman of Laos who generally contribute almost nothing while almost always going on welfare. They are at the top of the list to immigrate to the USA.

Illegal immigrants typically fit the profile the bureaucrats are looking for so they look the other way. Applicants from successful industrious cultures that have adopted Western values (like Korea, Japan, and the former Soviet bloc) are given the shaft. They would rather have the ones on welfare who are least likely to assimilate. Illegal immigrants who don't fit that profile like the Jungs are in heap-big-trouble. Don't be surprised if they are fined, imprisoned, deported and have whatever property they own confiscated while another bumpkin immigrant of welfare, illegal or otherwise, will be given the red carpet treatment. Welcome to the new America!
27 posted on 05/05/2005 11:04:17 AM PDT by Kokojmudd (Today's Liberal is Tomorrow's Prospective Flying Saucer Abductee)
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To: iconoclast

Gee, Terry Schaivo had to die because we had to follow the RULE OF LAW. If they were here illegaly then we should follow the RULE OF LAW. There are plenty of good people waiting in line to become American Citizens.

THis should be done more often, not less.


28 posted on 05/05/2005 11:04:21 AM PDT by Singermom
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To: Terabitten
I'm equally sure that these two did *something* to attract ICE's attention. What were they involved in when they left South Korea?

ICE is focusing its enforcement efforts on illegal immigrants that fall into two broad categories: criminals and absconders. Lots of illegals have been convicted of violent crimes and then released back into America. Don't hold me to this number but I think there are about 175,000 of these. The remainder of the 465,000 people that ICE is trying to round up are absconders who are illegal immigrants that have skipped court dates which results in a deportation order or gone to court and been ordered to be deported but had failed to leave.

It sounds like this family falls into the absconder category. They missed some court dates back in 1996 which may or mayn't have been an honest mistake. It sounds like they fraudulently entered America on a student visa when they did not really intend on going to school.

I would have a lot more sympathy for them if during the last 9 years they had made some effort to rectify this situation. There are going to be some good people and some not so good people that get caught up as absconders but if court orders are not obeyed then we have chaos.

29 posted on 05/05/2005 11:05:44 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: cripplecreek
Sounds like they would be better off if they were hispanic.

This wouldn't have happened if they were part of the hispanic/protected class of illegal aliens.

30 posted on 05/05/2005 11:06:24 AM PDT by janetgreen (Minutman Project - American patriotism!)
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To: iconoclast

Anyone who enters the U.S. illegally is a criminal, NO exceptions!
Deport all invaders, no matter where they originate.
So. Korea is not Hell, send them back.

Plain enough?


31 posted on 05/05/2005 11:22:48 AM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Terabitten
I'm equally sure that these two did *something* to attract ICE's attention. What were they involved in when they left South Korea?

Yeah, they did "do something" Kreskin.

Mrs. Jung was a stay at home mom and a Christian school aid instead of being "employed" as they had stated on one damned form or another (as I understand it). I'll post other articles to verify if I can find them.

What were they involved in when they left South Korea?

I believe it was homesickness!

Have a cynical day.

Thanks for reading the whole article anyway.

32 posted on 05/05/2005 11:51:25 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Yo-Yo
How many of the 9/11 hijackers were here on student visas? 10 years of studying at the University of Toledo?

You would equate this gentle Christian family with 9/11 terrorists?

You are indeed a YO-YO.

33 posted on 05/05/2005 12:03:16 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Dacus943
Let all who wish to come here apply through LEGAL channels.

They did. Has it occurred to you to wonder why only the mother is being shuffled from jail to jail?

They're getting abused on a technicality, IMHO.

34 posted on 05/05/2005 12:07:39 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Republicus2001
stealing SS Numbers

You have a vivid imagination and it has a stench about it.

35 posted on 05/05/2005 12:13:58 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Clemenza
In short, if you're here to pick grapes or wash dishes, we'll look the other way. However, if you come here to start a business or work as a loan officer, we'll come after you.

It's a filthy mess, and for sure it ain't by accident.

36 posted on 05/05/2005 12:16:04 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: iconoclast

Must have been Isramic


37 posted on 05/05/2005 12:17:44 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Planned Parenthood is neither.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
We need to make CRIMINAL INVASION a felony with a minimum one year jail and a $10,000 fine for first time invader. We need to make aiding and abetting CRIMINAL INVADERS a felony with a minimum one year in jail with a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL abetted.

You wouldn't recognize a CRIMINAL INVADER if he ran over you in a Mack truck, tough guy.

38 posted on 05/05/2005 12:18:09 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: skeeter
I may be going out on a limb here

Go ahead, but take care, there are plenty out there already.

I don't think Ralph was referring to consistency as in the consistent application of the law.

consistency as in the consistent application of the law?

It's customary to put smiley faces or sarcasm indicators on statements like that.

39 posted on 05/05/2005 12:31:13 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Singermom
THis should be done more often, not less.

Catch ya on bad day mom?

40 posted on 05/05/2005 12:34:43 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Richard-SIA
So. Korea is not Hell, send them back.

Plain enough?

Plain enough Dick, sounds like a little piece of Nevada might be though.

41 posted on 05/05/2005 12:40:26 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: iconoclast

If they were here MORE than ten years then they are entitled to apply for the rolling amnesty program.

I do not find it outragious since more likely than not they will now be subject to the system and through the appeals process be forced to become legal or leave.


42 posted on 05/05/2005 12:45:25 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: docholliday202002

interesting...


43 posted on 05/05/2005 12:47:49 PM PDT by dakine
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To: longtermmemmory
If they were here MORE than ten years then they are entitled to apply for the rolling amnesty program.

Hope you're right, but I'm not certain they have the best counsel.

44 posted on 05/05/2005 12:58:11 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: iconoclast

My idea would be for them to take a “vacation” to South Korea and stay just long enough to prepare the paper work to come here legally.


45 posted on 05/05/2005 12:59:22 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: iconoclast

Too bad. If they had done it legally, they might be full citizens by now. If that is what they wanted.

Like the rest of the people who are waiting in line for their turn and abiding by our laws. Wonder what they think?

On the other hand, the U.S. government can be painfully slow. Maybe we need to fix the process.


46 posted on 05/05/2005 1:06:25 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Hang 'em High!


47 posted on 05/05/2005 1:08:43 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: iconoclast; Clemenza; Tailgunner Joe; wardaddy

Why do I get the feeling that if we changed the words "Dae Jung", "Yung Jung" and "Korea" for "José Rodríguez", "María Rodríguez" and "Mexico", most Freepers would be calling for their immediate deportation???

The same folks that want hardcore immigration law enforcement, now then turn around and are willing to bend them a little bit.

Laws are to be enforced equally. No exceptions. No preference.

Sure as hell my parents, my sisters and I didn't benefit from any exceptions or preferences when we had to wait 11 years to come here legally.

P.S: Partial Colombia ping included.


48 posted on 05/05/2005 1:10:50 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: iconoclast
My grandkids go to school with this fine young man. This is a family that does not not deserve this harassment.

If he is here illegally he derserves this harassment. When his visa ran out he should have left. He was here fraudulantly and therefore was asked to leave. I don't care how nice he is, he broke the law and now must stand for the consequences.

All of you defending this guy sound like liberals, this is the kind of excuse making they do to justify the law breaking that they regularly take part in. Now you are doing it because you know this man. I know a man who murdered his ex-wife, shot her in the back. He was the nicest guy I have ever known but I think he should be right where he is, in Mule Creek Prison in CA.

It doesn't matter how many illegals are getting away with this crap, that doesn't mean we give this one a free pass. I am for finding all of them and deporting them all, nice or not.

49 posted on 05/05/2005 1:11:49 PM PDT by calex59
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To: iconoclast

So, do YOU know why the governement got interested in them?
susie


50 posted on 05/05/2005 1:13:35 PM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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