Cannon can kiss my a$$.
Posted on 05/05/2005 4:48:29 PM PDT by mondoman
WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo ought to reconsider his membership in the Republican Party, a Utah congressman said Wednesday after the two GOP lawmakers put an intraparty rift over immigration policy on full public display.
"I think he ought to consider his views and decide whether they're consistent with the Republican Party," Rep. Chris Cannon, R-Utah, said of the Colorado congressman after the two clashed repeatedly during a forum sponsored by the Latino Coalition, a Hispanic business group.
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Cannon, a leading proponent of President Bush's proposed guest- worker program, has had a running feud with Tancredo, an opponent of the plan and outspoken advocate of tougher immigration enforcement. Last year, a political action committee founded by Tancredo targeted Cannon during his primary election challenge.
The two men sat side by side on stools at Wednesday's event inside Washington's J.W. Marriott hotel, and the rhetoric got so emotional that at one point they had a comical tussle over who would get to hold the microphone next.
The debate began with a third panelist, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., denouncing unnamed people he said were exploiting the immigration issue because of bigotry, hatred and prejudice.
"If not for the undocumented workers in this country, I'd say that this room would not have been as clean and well-organized this morning," Gutierrez said.
Tancredo challenged Gutierrez when he took the microphone.
"We certainly would not want to pander to anyone on this issue, would we?" Tancredo said. "What I just heard was not that, was it?"
Tancredo repeated his long-standing call for the country to close its "porous borders" before it considers a new guest-worker program.
"It is crazy to suggest this nation should not do everything possible to secure the border," Tancredo said, saying a desire for cheap, immigrant labor could leave the borders open to terrorists or narcotics traffickers. Tancredo equates Bush's proposal to "amnesty" for illegal immigrants, saying it would reward people who entered the country illegally.
When it was his turn, Cannon immediately endorsed Gutierrez's earlier statement. He said the vast majority of Americans believe that undocumented immigrants should have "a path to citizenship" as long as they have willing employers, have not committed crimes and already are contributing to society.
Cannon said only a small minority of people "truly believe we should kick out" all illegal immigrants. He cited one of Tancredo's political allies, conservative commentator Pat Buchanan, who got about 1 percent of the vote after he left the Republican Party and ran for president in 2000 as a third-party candidate.
"I don't think there's a place in the Republican Party for racism, for xenophobia, for ideas that are fundamentally un-American," Cannon said.
Tancredo clapped quietly, saying he also sees no place in the debate for racism or xenophobia, which refers to a fear of foreign people or things.
Still, some observers - including a Tancredo staff member - interpreted it as an indirect reference to Tancredo, since he has recently toyed with the idea of following in Buchanan's footsteps and mounting a presidential campaign in 2008.
Asked after the event if he thought Tancredo was racist or xenophobic, Cannon said: "I don't know what motivates him."
In an interview, Tancredo fired back at Cannon, pointing to his primary election challenge by Republican Matt Throckmorton in 2004. The Team America PAC, founded by Tancredo and chaired by Buchanan's sister, Bay Buchanan, backed Throckmorton. Another group, Project U.S.A., placed billboards saying "Congressman Chris Cannon wants amnesty for illegal aliens. Do you?"
"Of the two of us, Mr. Cannon is the only one who has had a primary (challenge since taking office)," Tancredo said. "Evidently, there are a lot of people in his district who believe he is not Republican enough."
Tancredo has recently started traveling to early presidential primary states like New Hampshire, saying he wants to make sure the "serious candidates" put the immigration issue front-and-center in the 2008 race.
He has said it is unlikely he would actually run in - or win - a presidential race, but that he would consider a campaign if other candidates ignore the issue.
But he sees no need to leave the Republican Party.
"I believe the Republican Party is with me on the issue," Tancredo said.
"As long as that's the case, I frankly can't think why I would change. In the Republican Party, more people agree with me than with President Bush and Mr. Cannon (on immigration)."
Tancredo was facing a polite but generally skeptical crowd at The Latino Coalition event. Before he appeared, an opening speaker, while listing the VIPs invited to speak, added, "I'm sorry, but we also have Congressman Tom Tancredo."
That prompted a smattering of boos and hisses.
About 30 minutes after Tancredo, Cannon and Gutierrez left the stage, President Bush appeared for a presentation on Social Security. He got huge applause when he diverged to talk about his guest worker plan, which could go before Congress later this year.
If the GOP is going to throw anyone out, let it be Shays. If Shays is not top of the list, then the concept of making the big tent smaller is a bad joke.
What racism is cannon referring to? And what race is he referring to? The majority of Arabs, Mexicans, Canadians and Americans are all the same race: Caucasian !
Go join the dims, mr. cannon.
Cannon can kiss my a$$.
You really believe that? It's a wage depressing policy profitable whether the labor is "unavailable" or not.
Thanx.
When did the party of the Big Tent, become the party of lock step with the President or get out?
When the moderates took over.......
I am disgusted with Republicans who fail to see the danger in allowing millions of illegal aliens invading our country and wrecking our state,local and federal treasuries in the process.
If anyone should be forced to leave the GOP its Chris Cannon and people like him.
I am curious, are you really in Iraq? Are you a serviceman defending our country or it that just your moniker?
If so, you know you have the gratitude of most Americans!
So...does that mean we're all willing to work for the Constitution Party? I too am sick of this and ready to work for a REAL back to the basics of our Constitution Party.
He is the chairman of the Immigration Reform sub-committee...and the best defense is a good offense.
New mission for the vigilantes: Arm the Mexican people
I'n not kidding, either. If you want to see what socialist elitism can do to a country you have to look no further than Mexico. Shoot the bastards.
I should have been more careful...I thought it was a sub-committee,but it is only a caucus.I'm not quite sure how that compares to a committee.
Gutierrez seems to think that illegals are all janitors.
"If not for the undocumented workers in this country, I'd say that this room would not have been as clean and well-organized this morning," Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill. said.
"It is crazy to suggest this nation should not do everything possible to secure the border," Tancredo said, saying a desire for cheap, immigrant labor could leave the borders open to terrorists or narcotics traffickers.
He [Cannon] said the vast majority of Americans believe that undocumented immigrants should have "a path to citizenship" as long as they have willing employers [who will pay as little as possible], have not committed crimes and already are contributing to society.
I swear, this whole mess is about the billions being made in the drug trade, exploiting uneducated people for grunt work, and recruiting new voters running a possible third.
The Indians I work beside in IT earn pretty much the same as locals for equivalent skills. The construction workers make scale.
At my other home they are buying houses and driving up the price of houses and still able to buy them. I don't know what all of them make. But I do know what many of them make and it's pretty decent.
It should be noted that in both IT and construction and many careers, the wages vary greatly depending on one's negotiating skils. When I started at Motorola HR claimed that entry level MIS with a BA all started at the same rate. That was a lie. It varied from $14,000 to 58,000 for exactly the same job description. Since then I've worked beside programmers who made $16,000 and $300,000 and the guy making $16,000 was more competent and worth more money to the company; but lacked self-esteem and negotiating skills. He loved his job so much he would do it for free. The overpaid guy knew little about IT but was a great bullshitter and negotiator. I made $75,000 at that time and was between them.
Last Sunday in church a lady got up and gave a testimony that she got a 20% pay raise because she had been faithful in giving money to God. It turned out that many of us who don't tithe also got nice pay raises. (Mine was 15% starting May 1 which puts me even higher in the six digits.) Law of supply and demand. There is a demand for workers and not enough people willing to work.
Thanks, I kept it short and sweet since his site said he receives many emails and would prefer those not in his consituancy respond to their own Congressmen.
Basically, I kindly reminded him how wonderful this country is that it follows the will of the people.
I believe he has these qualities with regard to the immigration issue as well.
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