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More heat for Tancredo; Rep. Cannon doubts whether Coloradan should be in GOP
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 5/5/2005 | M.E. Sprengelmeyer

Posted on 05/05/2005 4:48:29 PM PDT by mondoman

WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo ought to reconsider his membership in the Republican Party, a Utah congressman said Wednesday after the two GOP lawmakers put an intraparty rift over immigration policy on full public display.

"I think he ought to consider his views and decide whether they're consistent with the Republican Party," Rep. Chris Cannon, R-Utah, said of the Colorado congressman after the two clashed repeatedly during a forum sponsored by the Latino Coalition, a Hispanic business group.

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Cannon, a leading proponent of President Bush's proposed guest- worker program, has had a running feud with Tancredo, an opponent of the plan and outspoken advocate of tougher immigration enforcement. Last year, a political action committee founded by Tancredo targeted Cannon during his primary election challenge.

The two men sat side by side on stools at Wednesday's event inside Washington's J.W. Marriott hotel, and the rhetoric got so emotional that at one point they had a comical tussle over who would get to hold the microphone next.

The debate began with a third panelist, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., denouncing unnamed people he said were exploiting the immigration issue because of bigotry, hatred and prejudice.

"If not for the undocumented workers in this country, I'd say that this room would not have been as clean and well-organized this morning," Gutierrez said.

Tancredo challenged Gutierrez when he took the microphone.

"We certainly would not want to pander to anyone on this issue, would we?" Tancredo said. "What I just heard was not that, was it?"

Tancredo repeated his long-standing call for the country to close its "porous borders" before it considers a new guest-worker program.

"It is crazy to suggest this nation should not do everything possible to secure the border," Tancredo said, saying a desire for cheap, immigrant labor could leave the borders open to terrorists or narcotics traffickers. Tancredo equates Bush's proposal to "amnesty" for illegal immigrants, saying it would reward people who entered the country illegally.

When it was his turn, Cannon immediately endorsed Gutierrez's earlier statement. He said the vast majority of Americans believe that undocumented immigrants should have "a path to citizenship" as long as they have willing employers, have not committed crimes and already are contributing to society.

Cannon said only a small minority of people "truly believe we should kick out" all illegal immigrants. He cited one of Tancredo's political allies, conservative commentator Pat Buchanan, who got about 1 percent of the vote after he left the Republican Party and ran for president in 2000 as a third-party candidate.

"I don't think there's a place in the Republican Party for racism, for xenophobia, for ideas that are fundamentally un-American," Cannon said.

Tancredo clapped quietly, saying he also sees no place in the debate for racism or xenophobia, which refers to a fear of foreign people or things.

Still, some observers - including a Tancredo staff member - interpreted it as an indirect reference to Tancredo, since he has recently toyed with the idea of following in Buchanan's footsteps and mounting a presidential campaign in 2008.

Asked after the event if he thought Tancredo was racist or xenophobic, Cannon said: "I don't know what motivates him."

In an interview, Tancredo fired back at Cannon, pointing to his primary election challenge by Republican Matt Throckmorton in 2004. The Team America PAC, founded by Tancredo and chaired by Buchanan's sister, Bay Buchanan, backed Throckmorton. Another group, Project U.S.A., placed billboards saying "Congressman Chris Cannon wants amnesty for illegal aliens. Do you?"

"Of the two of us, Mr. Cannon is the only one who has had a primary (challenge since taking office)," Tancredo said. "Evidently, there are a lot of people in his district who believe he is not Republican enough."

Tancredo has recently started traveling to early presidential primary states like New Hampshire, saying he wants to make sure the "serious candidates" put the immigration issue front-and-center in the 2008 race.

He has said it is unlikely he would actually run in - or win - a presidential race, but that he would consider a campaign if other candidates ignore the issue.

But he sees no need to leave the Republican Party.

"I believe the Republican Party is with me on the issue," Tancredo said.

"As long as that's the case, I frankly can't think why I would change. In the Republican Party, more people agree with me than with President Bush and Mr. Cannon (on immigration)."

Tancredo was facing a polite but generally skeptical crowd at The Latino Coalition event. Before he appeared, an opening speaker, while listing the VIPs invited to speak, added, "I'm sorry, but we also have Congressman Tom Tancredo."

That prompted a smattering of boos and hisses.

About 30 minutes after Tancredo, Cannon and Gutierrez left the stage, President Bush appeared for a presentation on Social Security. He got huge applause when he diverged to talk about his guest worker plan, which could go before Congress later this year.


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To: repentant_pundit

The majority of Mexicans are mestizo...mixed race.


61 posted on 05/05/2005 5:50:45 PM PDT by elli1
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To: mondoman

So the fat fool played the boogeyman "racism" card, this makes him as credible as say Jesse Jackson.


62 posted on 05/05/2005 5:51:41 PM PDT by junta ("Racism" a word invented so as to allow morons access to the political debate.)
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Cannon vs Throckmorton--Gannon 58.5% Throckmorton 41.5%

Cannon vs Babka (Dem)--Gannon 63.5% Babka 32.5%


63 posted on 05/05/2005 5:59:08 PM PDT by elli1
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To: mondoman
"Don't worry, we'll get rid of this Tancredo nuisance.

Then the 'guest worker amnesty' will be passed.

Thank God my peons are so estupido."


64 posted on 05/05/2005 6:01:25 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: MikeinIraq

Mike, I am still curious, do you work for the people of the US? Are you in Iraq or is that just your moniker?


65 posted on 05/05/2005 6:02:12 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (The changes, they are 'a comin)
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To: NormalGuy
Dubya (and my local GOP leader) are compassionate social conservatives. They are pro-immigrant for the same reason they are pro-life.

Let's not have any of this nonsense of being pro-illegal immigrant and hiding behind the pro-immigrant label. I am married to an immigrant, and am strongly pro-immigrant, but I am also strongly anti-illegal immigrant. Additionally, I was an officer in one of the largest pro-life organizations in the country, and I don't see any connection between being pro-immigrant and pro-life. That is simply nonsense.
66 posted on 05/05/2005 6:02:20 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: mondoman

It is because there are no illegals heading in droves to Utah....at least not yet.


67 posted on 05/05/2005 6:06:06 PM PDT by Feiny (I am the one that sent you all that spam.)
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To: mondoman
The debate began with a third panelist, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., denouncing unnamed people he said were exploiting the immigration issue because of bigotry, hatred and prejudice.

I guess these would be the employers of illegals.../s

"If not for the undocumented workers in this country, I'd say that this room would not have been as clean and well-organized this morning," Gutierrez said.

One wonders if this man has ever been to Mexico...

He(Cannon) said the vast majority of Americans believe that undocumented immigrants should have "a path to citizenship" as long as they have willing employers, have not committed crimes and already are contributing to society.

The vast majority of Americans know that undocumented immigrants already have "a path to citizenship".It's called waiting your turn.All they have to do is apply and wait.

"I believe the Republican Party is with me on the issue," Tancredo said.

Sorry Tom.The proof is in the pudding.The American people are with you,but not the GOP(yet).Hold their feet and the minutemen may change that,but we're not there yet.

68 posted on 05/05/2005 6:16:17 PM PDT by kennyo
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To: AmishDude
Tancredo called for DeLay to step down in the middle of the kerfluffle. It was shameless, opportunistic, and indicative of his lack of character.

I believe he has these qualities with regard to the immigration issue as well.

I read on FR that Tancredo and Delay were on the outs because of Tancredo's position on Illegal Immigration...As a result, it was stated that Delay told Tancredo he would never sit on any important committees...

Is Delay pushing any issues that are more important than getting a grip on the illegal invasion??? If not, I'll side with Tancredo...

70 posted on 05/05/2005 7:01:06 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park!!!)
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To: mondoman

Cannon belongs to the treason wing of the GOP, where the interests of foreign nationals come first.


71 posted on 05/05/2005 7:28:12 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: BobL
"Hillary is now to the right of Bush"

Hillary was a co-sponser of AgJobs. She voted for AgJobs week before last.

You call that being to the right of Bush?

72 posted on 05/05/2005 7:29:08 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: kennyo
Tanc has the lowest of the low committee assignments because House leadership sees him as a back-stabber.

Being the chair of a caucus has nothing to do with House operations.

73 posted on 05/05/2005 7:36:59 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: GatorPaul
"...we sure talk about him a lot here."

Tom Tancredo, the savior of Western Civilization.

75 posted on 05/05/2005 8:06:50 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
" Hillary was a co-sponser of AgJobs. She voted for AgJobs week before last."

Understand - but she did also say words to the effect that we need to seal our boarders to illegals - which is something the president has not been able to do.

Of course the b&tch is not really to the right on this issue, but she is throwing out some meat for people that may want to send a message to the Republicans on this issue.

Rush has been pointing this out for months, the entire illegal alien issue is sitting out there, waiting for the Dems to grab it - since the Reps won't. And there are a lot of Reps that will go single-issue on this one, as this thread clearly shows.

The Reps are playing with fire here, and they better think through their strategy carefully - or they're doomed.
76 posted on 05/05/2005 8:25:37 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Modok

I think that the Republican peasants are going to have to revolt and overthrow King George and the Prince Canon. I have run campaigns against Democrats but never against a Republican and in Cannons case I think he should be the number one target to show that it's time for a change.

Are there any people from Cannon's District that want to get rid of him? Contact me via freepmail.


77 posted on 05/05/2005 8:33:32 PM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


78 posted on 05/05/2005 8:54:22 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: mondoman
I get sick of those idiots saying WE have to leave the party. THEY are the ones who are no longer Conservatives. THEY are the ones who need to find another party! Like the Socialist Party, or CPUSA!!

DeLay for President, and Tancredo for Vice President!!!

79 posted on 05/05/2005 9:13:47 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: Pelham
Cannon belongs to the treason wing of the GOP, where the interests of foreign nationals come first.

I've been to his district, you should see the expensive houses that his rich business buddies have. They can afford $400K and $500K houses because they hire illegals for a few bucks an hour.

That's who Cannon is serving, and he could give a fat damn what any of the rest of us think. We're not the ones shoving campaign contributions at him.

80 posted on 05/05/2005 9:17:24 PM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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