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Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of ‘mistaken identity’
The Sunday Times (online) ^ | May 08, 2005 | Christina Lamb and Mohammad Shehzad Islamabad

Posted on 05/07/2005 5:33:01 PM PDT by Gondring

THE capture of a supposed Al-Qaeda kingpin by Pakistani agents last week was hailed by President George W Bush as “a critical victory in the war on terror”. According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists’ third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as “among the flotsam and jetsam” of the organisation.

Al-Libbi’s arrest in Pakistan, announced last Wednesday, was described in the United States as “a major breakthrough” in the hunt for Osama Bin Laden.

Bush called him a “top general” and “a major facilitator and chief planner for the Al- Qaeda network”. Condoleezza Rice, secretary of state, said he was “a very important figure”. Yet the backslapping in Washington and Islamabad has astonished European terrorism experts, who point out that the Libyan was neither on the FBI’s most wanted list, nor on that of the State Department “rewards for justice” programme.

Another Libyan is on the FBI list — Anas al-Liby, who is wanted over the 1998 East African embassy bombings — and some believe the Americans may have initially confused the two. When The Sunday Times contacted a senior FBI counter-terrorism official for information about the importance of the detained man, he sent material on al-Liby, the wrong man.

“Al-Libbi is just a ‘middle-level’ leader,” said Jean-Charles Brisard, a French intelligence investigator and leading expert on terrorism finance. “Pakistan and US authorities have completely overestimated his role and importance. He was never more than a regional facilitator between Al-Qaeda and local Pakistani Islamic groups.”

According to Brisard, the arrested man lacks the global reach of Al-Qaeda leaders such as Ayman al-Zawahiri, Bin Laden’s number two, Khalid Shaikh Mohammad, the mastermind of the September 11 attacks, or Anas al-Liby.

Although British intelligence has evidence of telephone calls between al-Libbi and operatives in the UK, he is not believed to be Al-Qaeda’s commander of operations in Europe, as reported.

The only operations in which he is known to have been involved are two attempts to assassinate Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan’s president, in 2003. Last year he was named Pakistan’s most wanted man with a $350,000 (£185,000) price on his head.

No European or American intelligence expert contacted last week had heard of al-Libbi until a Pakistani intelligence report last year claimed he had taken over as head of operations after Khalid Shaikh Mohammad’s arrest. A former close associate of Bin Laden now living in London laughed: “What I remember of him is he used to make the coffee and do the photocopying.”

What is known is that al-Libbi moved from Libya to Pakistan in the mid-1980s before joining the jihad in Afghanistan. He married a Pakistani woman and is said to specialise in maps and diagrams. He is thought to have joined Bin Laden in Sudan with other Libyan nationals in about 1992 and to have become Al-Qaeda’s co-ordinator with home-grown Pakistani terrorist groups after 9/11.

Some believe al-Libbi’s significance has been cynically hyped by two countries that want to distract attention from their lack of progress in capturing Bin Laden, who has now been on the run for almost four years.

Even a senior FBI official admitted that al-Libbi’s “influence and position have been overstated”. But this weekend the Pakistani government was sticking to the line that al-Libbi was the third most important person in the Al-Qaeda network.

One American official tried to explain the absence of al-Libbi’s name on the wanted list by saying: “We did not want him to know he was wanted.”

Whatever his importance, al-Libbi is the sixth Al-Qaeda figure to have been caught in Pakistan, suggesting that the country is now the organisation’s centre of operations. The interior minister, Aftab Khan Sherpao, conceded that Bin Laden and his deputy might be hiding in a Pakistani city.

“But the capture of al-Libbi will have made them very apprehensive. Whether big fry or small fry, they’re on the run, I can tell you that.”


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To: Gondring

Wanted

Anas Al-Liby

Up to $5 Million Reward

Aliases: Anas Al-Sabai, Anas Al-Libi, Nazih Al-Raghie, Nazih Abdul Hamed Al-Raghie Anas Al-Liby recently lived in the United Kingdom, where he has political asylum. He is believed to currently be in Afghanistan. Speaks Arabic and English. Indicted for: conspiracy to kill United States nationals, to murder, to destroy buildings and property of the United States, and to destroy National Defense utilities of the United States.

41 posted on 05/07/2005 7:20:37 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Calpernia

I'll drink to that!


42 posted on 05/07/2005 7:23:22 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Radix
Senior Al Qaeda Leader's Notebook Seized ABC News
43 posted on 05/07/2005 7:24:56 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Gondring
Cheers!


44 posted on 05/07/2005 7:26:11 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: woofie

---somehow in the long run using suicide as a weapon doesnt seem like a great military stategy---

You remind me of the old Cheech and Chong bit about the Kamikaze pilots....."Honorable General Sir, you out of you Fu***ing mind!"


45 posted on 05/07/2005 7:27:01 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberals are all heart, they care for everybody they care for and hate the rest.)
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To: TexKat; Radix

Other links here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Faraj_al-Libbi


46 posted on 05/07/2005 7:28:41 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Gondring

This is a typical eurotrash story. There are two guys with similar names. The one recently captured really is a big shot, but was not on the FBI list because that list first requires an indictment.

In this case, the ISI and CIA know what they have. We can only hope he sings.


47 posted on 05/07/2005 7:28:50 PM PDT by gleneagle
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To: jimbo123
If Mohammad Shehzad Islamabad of the Times says it's a goofup, then I sure as heck trust it's a goofup.

Yeah, same here. LOL

48 posted on 05/07/2005 7:31:08 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: TexKat
Right.. this is NOT the one who was captured...



The terrorist who was captured has a skin disorder, evidently, and was quite distinctive:


49 posted on 05/07/2005 7:35:22 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Gondring

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

Anas Al-Liby

50 posted on 05/07/2005 7:36:34 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

yup. lol


51 posted on 05/07/2005 7:37:25 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: TexKat; Gondring; Calpernia; AmericanArchConservative
"One senior official described al-Libbi as "shocked" and enraged."

Thanks for the link.

The A-hole was wounded, but initial reports claimed that he was only "sick." Gosh I love double entendres.

The notebook was a terrific prize.

I wish that I could destroy my old hard drives so easily as that pig and his cohorts claim that he did. 

Perhaps someday Al Jazeera and the AP public relations experts who purchase the AJ  BS articles (for the so called journalists hiding behind the protective cover of our US military) might one day insist on just such a thing. Objective news, and journalism, brought to you by Al Jazeera and Dan Rather et al reporting.

The terrorists ought to go and watch the old movies where the Detectives were able to reassemble ashes from burned photographs. LoL! . Purging a hard drive is a hard job. All your captured hard drive info are belong to us!

I am telling you that we are fighting with a bunch of empty Burkas here. (What do Muslim men call their dresses by the way?")

Gosh I have no business ranting out loud on a perfectly quiet evening here......

52 posted on 05/07/2005 7:48:55 PM PDT by Radix (A Tag Line this clever ought to be noticed.)
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To: Gondring

Abu Faraj al-Liby succeeded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed as Emir of the Martyrdom Battalion in Pakistan. He was wanted for two assasination attempts on Musharraf. He been considered Al Qaeda's number three man ever since Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was apprehended. This is not mixup. The artilce from the Sunday Times is BS.

Link

53 posted on 05/07/2005 7:50:14 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Gondring

Geraldo on Fox News is about to talk about the capture of UBL's #3 after this commercial. It sounds as if he (Geraldo) has not heard about this article.


54 posted on 05/07/2005 7:50:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Gondring; TexKat; Radix
links here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Faraj_al-Libbi

Wiki is BS. Anybody can make an updated entry.

55 posted on 05/07/2005 7:52:22 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: gleneagle
The one recently captured really is a big shot, but was not on the FBI list because that list first requires an indictment.

Bingo!

56 posted on 05/07/2005 7:53:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: TexKat

Tex......you shouldn't buy into this piece of Eurotrash. They are quoting one French guy ....come on Tex....your arent this gullible.


57 posted on 05/07/2005 7:55:10 PM PDT by Dog
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One American official tried to explain the absence of al-Libbi’s name on the wanted list by saying: “We did not want him to know he was wanted.

He is on Double SECRET probation

58 posted on 05/07/2005 7:57:25 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod ( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
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To: Dog
This is a really good capture Dog,

BTW, sometimes, the military simply "forgets what day it is"


Gosh, this capture could have occurred a while back longer ago for all we know........
59 posted on 05/07/2005 8:02:12 PM PDT by Radix (A Tag Line this clever ought to be noticed.)
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To: FreeReign

The links are BBC, AP, etc....not that they're right, but what are you basing anything else on?


60 posted on 05/07/2005 8:07:17 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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