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US Mexico Totalization Agreement
The Arizona Conservative ^ | May 7, 2005 | Bruce Barton

Posted on 05/09/2005 11:43:46 AM PDT by Boston Blackie

So what is a “totalization” agreement? These are bilateral agreements between the U.S. Social Security Administration and its counterpart in foreign countries to coordinate their Social Security programs. Presently the U.S. has 20 such agreements, mostly with European nations. This overall program has been in place since the Carter Administration. However, this is the first totalization agreement between the United States and a nation responsible for nearly 70 percent of the illegal immigration into the United States.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 2006; 2006elections; 3rdworldstatus; aliens; az; borderpolice; ca; ct; disease; gopmustpay; immigrantlist; md; nc; nm; nv; or; socialism; socialsecurity; taxes; tn; tx; ut; yourtownnext
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1 posted on 05/09/2005 11:43:49 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

And we wondered why the push was on to 'fix' Social Security? Simple, because W just broke it, big time.

There isn't a day that goes by without a news article that lowers my hopes for this administration. I used to place this president above Reagan. Now he's nearing Clinton territory for respect.


2 posted on 05/09/2005 12:01:31 PM PDT by datura (Fix bayonets. Seal and Deport.)
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To: datura

I agree. From where I stand it looks as if Bush cares more for Iraq's borders and it's peoples' financial situation than he does for his fellow Americans. How terribly, terribly sad.


3 posted on 05/09/2005 12:22:32 PM PDT by ImpotentRage
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To: datura

Bttt!


4 posted on 05/09/2005 12:25:46 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: ImpotentRage

Bush has proven he cares nothing about the welfare of the USA or it's people. He is a globalist and his goal is the elimination of the USA as an independent nation.


5 posted on 05/09/2005 12:32:57 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: datura
And we wondered why the push was on to 'fix' Social Security? Simple, because W just broke it, big time.

Ah, but it goes much deeper than this.

The Totalization agreement not only allows Mexican illegal aliens to apply for and receive US SS benefits at home, but also allows him to apply for and receive benefits for his wife and children, even if they've never stepped foot in the US.

You and I have to work 40 quarters (10 years) before we become eligible for benefits.

Under the terms of the Totalization agreement, a Mexican illegal alien is eligible after only 6 quarters (1-1/2 years).

And more recently, Bush has been pushing for increased benefits for low-income wage earners and lower benefits for high wage earners.

And just which group would a typical Mexican illegal alien fall? If you said 'low wage earner', then go to the head of the class.

Which group of 'high wage earners' would be most affected by Bush's SS proposal? If you said, 'American citizens', then you've just earned extra credit.

There you have it. Bush cares more about providing for Mexican illegal aliens than he does for Amercian citizens.

6 posted on 05/09/2005 12:36:38 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker ("There ought to be limits to freedom" --George W. Bush, May 26, 1999)
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To: jpsb
I suspect that Mexico is one taco away from a revolution, Marxist takeover. By absorbing the excess population, the day is forestalled. But all some point we'll have to deal with it.
Of course once the revolution/civil war gets going, the flood of "refugees" will be enormous. Plus they'll automatically go on the various freebies programs such as what the Somalians enjoy.
7 posted on 05/09/2005 12:42:42 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: gubamyster

ping


8 posted on 05/09/2005 12:53:28 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: investigateworld
I suspect that Mexico is one taco away from a revolution<<<

Maybe. But I also suspect the USA is just one little homemade apple pie away from one as well. Especially when a tyrannical government begins giving our country away to foreign invaders.
9 posted on 05/09/2005 1:00:03 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: datura
I lost faith in Bush during the first year of his administration. Specifically, I happened to visit the White House web site around Halloween and noticed they had posted a little Flash cartoon of medical perscriptions being handed out to retirees with their trick-or-treat bags open.

I realized then what this administration was all about.

10 posted on 05/09/2005 1:02:18 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: The Duke

I had absolutely no faith in Bush Jr. after witnessing the abysmal, dismal performance of his father and his rolling over to let the Clinton's capture the WH.....must be a renegade gene in the Bush family tree that just forces them to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


11 posted on 05/09/2005 1:23:53 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: datura
There isn't a day that goes by without a news article that lowers my hopes for this administration. I used to place this president above Reagan. Now he's nearing Clinton territory for

I've always thought he was slicker than Slick. After all, he got all of those so-called conservatives to vote the highest increases in gov spending since LBJ. Not bad for a compassionate conservative.

12 posted on 05/09/2005 1:37:23 PM PDT by Digger
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ping


13 posted on 05/09/2005 1:42:46 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Iron Matron

I am in favor of rolling back Globalization and returning us to a strict, conservative limited Republican form of government, free of entangling alliances and unfettered by any Global commitments at any level. No custom, law or precedent, or foreign entity, should be recognized above or higher than the U.S. Constitution. All forms of government above, or outside of, the U.S. Constitution should be declared null and void and all agreements, arrangements and alliances vacated by the Judiciary and enforced by Congressional decree (ideally)..

U.S. National Sovereignty should never be compromised at any level and the Republic must stand only and exclusively for the interests of U.S. Citizens, and not those of any other country, government or non-governmental organization (NGO).

The entire U.S. National financial infrastructure and all other institutions should be sealed off from the emerging global order, as the U.S. hopefully takes its formal stand against Globalism (again, it is up to Congress to Act here).

We must reject Globalism, multilateralism and all forms of Socialism and return to a strong, well-grounded Constitutionally-inspired, Republican form of limited Government and stand by our hard-won National Independence to the very bitter end. The U.S. should not be the eternal wellspring of dole and giveaways for the Second and Third worlds.

Vote accordingly people, and run for office, where appropriate and most effective.

Will the Republic stand? Will we remain Sovereign?


14 posted on 05/09/2005 1:45:41 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (Property tax is eternal rent. You can never own your own land. Why?)
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To: investigateworld

If true then we are importing a great deal of trouble, the fighting will be on our side of the border too. Someone in DC should be thinking about what's best for the USA and not just what's best for Mexico. If a revolution is comming, allowing 20 million illegals into the usa is not going to prevent it, just make the entire mess worse and involve usa too.


15 posted on 05/09/2005 2:05:27 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: Bald Eagle777

Well stated. I agree.


16 posted on 05/09/2005 2:05:44 PM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: Boston Blackie

And this Administration was labeled "Conservative"?


17 posted on 05/09/2005 2:15:26 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: afnamvet

Thanks bud.


18 posted on 05/09/2005 2:27:18 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (Property tax is eternal rent. You can never own your own land. Why?)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

A rising tide lifts all boats...sort of. Well, except for American citizens' rowboats. Every three months or so, we're expected to get busy and invent something everyone else in the world can manufacture and sell back to us at double/triple the manufacturing cost. Social security will be a welfare program. The Dems are right about that, and it's shameful.


19 posted on 05/09/2005 2:31:24 PM PDT by hershey
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


20 posted on 05/09/2005 2:37:29 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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