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Pentagon to suggest forces share facilities at some bases
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 12 May 05 | By Bill Gertz

Posted on 05/12/2005 10:29:03 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

The Pentagon will recommend joining elements of different branches of the armed services on some military bases when it announces proposed base closings in upcoming days, defense officials say. As part of its "joint" forces concept, the Pentagon thinks that having the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines share facilities will reduce costs and improve "combat effectiveness." Michael Wynne, undersecretary of defense for acquisition in charge of the base closure plan, said the proposed changes were guided by military "interrelationships, jointness and transformation."

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Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita said that the goal of the base restructuring is to cut from the estimated 20 percent to 25 percent of "excess capacity" in military bases. The billions of dollars saved will be used to modernize weapons, improve the infrastructure and quality of life for troops and improve military preparedness, the Pentagon says.

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The military maintains 425 bases in the United States, plus 70 bases in foreign countries. Additionally, the Pentagon operates 3,535 small facilities in the United States. Pentagon officials say all facilities were considered under the latest round of closings.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brac; dod; military; militarybases; transformation
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Freeper participation opportunity: Which CONUS base do you believe will be BRAC'd and why do you think they will close it?

I'll go first. Ft. Lee, VA. - If the QM School were moved to Ft. Eustis, it would be synergetic. Also, no one really wants to live in Petersburg, when they could be closer to VA Beach instead. If Lee doesn't go, I think the BRAC commission will hammer Ft. Monroe or Ft. Belvior instead.

1 posted on 05/12/2005 10:29:03 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM

SAVE Ft Huachuca!


2 posted on 05/12/2005 10:32:01 AM PDT by PatriotCJC
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To: PatriotCJC
Huachucha is in decent shape. I think WSMR or YPG is closer to the edge out West.
3 posted on 05/12/2005 10:33:28 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (M. Moore + MoveOn.org = MooreOn.Org)
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I am wondering if this is going to result in more mud wrestling and bastard children.


4 posted on 05/12/2005 10:33:57 AM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: .cnI redruM

FT Hua is the major Az 'Joint' base. That would be (well, should be) low on the BRAC list.


5 posted on 05/12/2005 10:35:17 AM PDT by dagar
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To: .cnI redruM

I think the most vulnerable of large bases is Ft Knox.

Rock Island arsenal, Sierra Army Depot, should be on the block, and they are both in Blue States.

Leavenworth really has no purpose for existing anymore. They should be rolled into Riley.


7 posted on 05/12/2005 10:36:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Search4Truth
>>>>>>>>.am wondering if this is going to result in more mud wrestling and bastard children.

That would be WMR's province rather than the BRAC Commission.
8 posted on 05/12/2005 10:36:42 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (M. Moore + MoveOn.org = MooreOn.Org)
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To: xzins
Knox is interesting except for the question of where to move the Armor S&C. Perhaps Ft. Hood or Ft. Riley.

Leavenworth is probably safer than Knox or Sierra because of it's population of "troubled" soldiers.

Rock Island has a great minor league baseball team nearby, Single A ball. Beyond that, it could join Monmouth or Piccatinny tomorrow and barely cause a hiccup.
9 posted on 05/12/2005 10:40:01 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (M. Moore + MoveOn.org = MooreOn.Org)
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Hanscom AFB, MA. ESD could, and should, be co-located with their opposite numbers in the Army, at Ft Monmouth, NJ. Hanscom is not a true military installation - it is an industrial park.

It is incredibly expensive to keep open and yet it has no actual military function. It is located in a high-rent district of Massachusetts which, standing alone, is a pretty good reason to close it. Add to this that it is incredibly insecure, in a physical sense. In addition, it receives no real support from any of the locals, other than some civilian employees and contractors who have been slopping at that particular trough for way too many years.

Closing Hanscom would be a win-win for nearly all concerned.


10 posted on 05/12/2005 10:42:35 AM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: .cnI redruM

Rock Island is among the least useful of those small bases that I know of. Monmouth has to be second. Monmouth has about a company-sized element of active duty troops. The remainder are civilians. (Can't forget USMEPS....but they can do Military Academy Prep School anyplace.)


11 posted on 05/12/2005 10:43:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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>>>Hanscom would be a win-win for nearly all concerned

Perhaps Anniston would acquire it. They also run assembly lines. I wonder what B-GAD does other than rebuild old helicopters?
12 posted on 05/12/2005 10:47:24 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (M. Moore + MoveOn.org = MooreOn.Org)
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To: xzins
Piccatinney Arsenal probably should inherit Monmouth's mission. It has enough lab space to support the ARDEC mission. As for the Cadet Summer Camp, send them to Drum and let them train at altitude.
13 posted on 05/12/2005 10:48:39 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (M. Moore + MoveOn.org = MooreOn.Org)
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To: PatriotCJC
SAVE Ft Huachuca!

I can't believe Ft We-gotcha is at risk. They probably still aren't finished with all the construction to consolidate intelligence training that was started in the early 1990's and there are no other locations that can accomodate them.

14 posted on 05/12/2005 10:49:15 AM PDT by Godzilla (History teaches us that we never learn from history.)
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Hanscom doesn't have any production lines per se. They aren't even that useful.

There are some research facilities tied in to MIT, etc, that are located there.

A lot of contracts are let, and supposedly managed, out of Hanscom for various electronic goodies, some of which are heavily classified. There are historic reasons why this particular funtion was located in that area, but those reasons haven't been valid for a number of years now. Lots of money flows through there, but that is about it. No "stuff" - just paper and money.

But they are run by a three-star, who lives on the base, which should give you some idea of just how much loot is flowing through there.


15 posted on 05/12/2005 10:59:21 AM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: .cnI redruM

We aren't "shutting the doors" just controlling the flow through them. It's kinda the right of a sovereign nation, ya know!


16 posted on 05/12/2005 11:00:03 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Godzilla

Gack, I think we picked similar forum names...

And it seems that I'm doing similar work as what you did in the military...

I think my head hurts...


17 posted on 05/12/2005 11:17:18 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: .cnI redruM; Travis McGee
I think DOD complexes such as Ft Bragg & Pope AFB or Ft Lewis & McCord AFB should be considered for condensing Army , Air Force and USMC active duty units . Then establish an designate large exercise areas for Desert, Jungle, Artic and Mountain Warfare Training with each individual base complex having a local MOUT training area per their respective locations specific terrain or weather.

Naval Ports would be the exception and rely on contractor security or Coast Guard and a Marine Det for security vs entire units.

Aside from that maintain individual states national guard sites and USAF Fighter units for Air defense of the CONUS in this post 9-11 era should remain dispersed to selected individual states Air National Guard bases.

No complete answers ....just ideas as to possible solutions.

18 posted on 05/12/2005 11:19:21 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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Gack, I think we picked similar forum names...

hehehehehe

And it seems that I'm doing similar work as what you did in the military...

Your profile suggests that you probably work in a place where the security has no sense of humor.

I think my head hurts...

Too much high altitude


19 posted on 05/12/2005 11:27:03 AM PDT by Godzilla (History teaches us that we never learn from history.)
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To: Godzilla
That would give the BRAC Commission some teeth....
20 posted on 05/12/2005 11:30:07 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (M. Moore + MoveOn.org = MooreOn.Org)
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