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Democrats Just Don't Get It - (can they survive this blockbuster killer new exposé article?)
NEWSMAX.COM ^ | MAY 13, 2005 | JOAN SWIRSKY

Posted on 05/12/2005 9:12:21 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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1 posted on 05/12/2005 9:12:21 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Spending over 500 million dollars in a losing effort..

Priceless.


2 posted on 05/12/2005 9:14:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: CHARLITE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1402167/posts


3 posted on 05/12/2005 9:21:37 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: CHARLITE

The Democrats are fond of saying that President Bush has divided our country.
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Two sides to this one -- Bush has proliferated the division (balkanization) of America between illegal Mexicans and real American citizens...but when it comes to the Dems saying the above, they always accuse their opponents of doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO. One of the first pages right out of the old lame Dem playbook.


4 posted on 05/12/2005 9:39:07 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: ThreePuttinDude; Beth528; Billthedrill; HonestConservative; SMARTY; CyberAnt; ...

"Extremists" won the election

5 posted on 05/12/2005 9:40:11 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing.)
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To: CHARLITE
Yes the Dems are in meltdown. But it should not lead to complacency. The traditionally hardest political test is coming up fast - the off year congressional elections in a president's second term. We need several things for them to go well, besides opponents fit to be tied.

(1) the war. It is the number 1 issue still. But having already won an election on it, Bush is not going to get additional credit for it, not really. He is now expected to simply win. Make it so, that is a requirement. All is going well, just don't stumble anywhere on this one.

(2) the picked issues of today that the pols are all fighting over. That means confirmations fights and social security. Frankly, these are deep inside baseball to most of the electorate.

(2a) The SS stuff is good policy that needs to be done. But don't expect political reward for it in the short term. It will be a draw on the politics, a win on policy but one that takes a long time to pay off.

(2b) As for judges, they also matter in the long run and are worth fighting hard over. But pols are much more exercised about their friends getting jobs than average Americans are. The base will cheer if you fight for judges, that is all it can bring in.

(3) the populist issues that the pols are paying enough attention to, that will really decide the upcoming elections. This is where we need to do a lot more. There are exactly two of these, and not liking one or the other of them won't help. It is the people's concerns, not the pols, that matter on these.

(3a) First are energy prices, oil and especially gas at the pump. They are absurdly high, enough so that they are effecting the stock market and the real economy. They are a serious tax, felt and resented. If the oil price is $35 next November, the Republicans are in good shape. If it is $60, they aren't.

(3b) Second is the host of issues around immigration and trade. The populist rage on the subject is building, and pointing toward unsound policies. Serious things have to be done, that combined sound policy with a real acknowledgement of public concern.

And I say this as a free trader in economics. The politics of the issue are simply explosive at this point, since the populist position has been consistently denied articulation by pols of both parties for eons. To start with, there is a widespread sense that our laws are a laughingstock on the matter, that what happens on the ground is not controlled even by elites, let alone by the people, but is simply out of control.

The election will not turn on the rage of the left, that is impotent. But the rage of ordinary people about gas prices and the apparent contempt held for their populist views on trade economy and illegal immigration is not impotent. I am not suggestion protection, it is a perennial political loser. But fair trade noises have to be made, and the more strategically obnoxious states we deal with should go to the woodshed, visibly.

And some sense of law abidingness about immigration law is needed desperately. Long run support for assimilationist immigration depends on public support, which in turn depends on orderliness, lawfulness, respect and yes graditude, that are all lacking today.

What all of these issues have in common is simple patriotism and dislike for elites sneering at it as lowbrow. That is the poison of the political day, and the left is drinking deep. To draw the line between Republicans and Dems brightly, Republicans have to avoid any similar whiff of hoity-toity.

One man's advice. Don't get cocky, pay attention to the people. They are the ones that fire political parties, not the lame media or lamer hard left activist crowd.

6 posted on 05/12/2005 9:45:31 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: CHARLITE

We need to remove more of them from the Congress and replace them with true God fearing American Constitutionalist!


7 posted on 05/12/2005 10:01:47 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: JasonC

Regarding 3(a); define "absurdly high"


8 posted on 05/12/2005 10:08:39 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Rats theme song: "Whatever it is...I'm AGAINST it!!!")
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To: CHARLITE; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; Conspiracy Guy; NYC GOP Chick; MeekOneGOP; ...

great article


9 posted on 05/13/2005 1:26:22 AM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: King Prout
buuuuuuuuuuummmp!

10 posted on 05/13/2005 2:30:03 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: King Prout

Thanks for the ping there!


11 posted on 05/13/2005 3:14:48 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: CHARLITE

I agree with this writer in principle, but I'm not quite so optimistic. The RATS and the MSM are still able to steal elections and block judicial appointments.


12 posted on 05/13/2005 3:17:03 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: CHARLITE

Wow!! This is an excellent and devastating analysis of the state of the two political parties in America today.

Joan, take two gold stars and go to the head of the class.


13 posted on 05/13/2005 3:22:04 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Fledermaus
When prices double without any shortage, stockpiles rising the entire time, new supply continually outstriping demand - on the back of political concerns that do not pan out and ongoing speculative fever - then prices get absurdly high. $1.50 gas and $35 oil might be justified by the weak dollar and modest amounts of new demand, worldwide. $2.50 gas and $55 oil are not.
14 posted on 05/13/2005 5:13:16 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Fledermaus
Too many administration types are off in deep wonk-land assessing only policy. Sometimes you have to notice a major issue, see your own need to defend on it and the opponents' weaknesses, and go for the political jugular.

The left is deeply committed to utterly nonsensical energy policies by their alliance with radical green activists and big government socialist ideas. If the administration is associated with high oil prices, it will pay a political price. If the left is, that price will be split. If the administration is credited with lowering oil prices through forceful energy policies, over screaming opposition from the left, then the left will get all the blame for them having been high, and the people will be delighted that the admininstration ignored those screams and lowered them.

Here is how you go about doing that. Declare a stable supply of oil at reasonable prices a critical strategic need of the US at this time, and a definite enemy target for terrorist and political disruption in time of actual war. Say that extreme measures are required as a matter of national security to remove this weapon from the enemy arsenal and defeat his strategy. Override all objections and legal niceties in the way of the remainder of this program. Legislate what you need to and can, but do not allow a single measure to fail to be implimented by any degree of political opposition. Run right over them, in implimentation, calling them names and questioning their patriotism the entire time.

Then the actual measures are - drill in Alaska. Expediate all new power plant construction. Allow new coal plants, new nuke plants. Grant "regulatory waivers" all over the place to make it so. Waive fines due.

Sell oil from the stockpile, saying the treasury is not helped by paying $50 for oil it expects to stockpile in any desired quantities at prices a third to half that within 2-3 years. Cut national gasoline taxes 25 cents a gallon (how they will howl! Let them howl. Put a mike with an amplifier next to their howling).

Negotiate long term fixed price contracts with Nigeria and Mexico to deliver on the order of 1 million barrels a day for $40 for ten years; justify it by the need to reduce wild price shock swings in their emerging economies. (If they don't want the deals, their lose). Let the Dems oppose you; call them insensitive to minorities and the less fortunate.

Let OPEC know, quietly, not to shame them but as a promise and threat, that any attempt to cut production will lead to the immediate seizure of all OPEC flagged vessels on the high seas, and their oil will not move again without paying a "transit tax" to the US Navy. And assets in the US will be seized. If they keep production as it is, no changes, they can operate as normally and keep all their profits.

Court a knock down drag out fight with the greens over their nonsense energy red tape, run right over them when they try to fight, lower prices dramatically as a result, blame them for having kept them so high for so long. Let the left enter the by-election in a towering rage strapped to the mast of radical environmentalism, baying for US defeat to Save the World, receive the appreciation of happy motorists paying $1.50 a gallon again, and murder the Dems at the polls.

Policy wonkiness will take care of itself in the aftermath. Don't sweat the details.

15 posted on 05/13/2005 7:56:18 AM PDT by JasonC
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Some finer points to add - pass a tax credit for conversions of oil heaters to gas, a few hundred dollars, whether people itemize or not. One time deal for a few years only. Will help reduce demand in the NE and shift energy use to more efficient fuels.

The left will counterattack the oil companies and try to marry us to them. Resist by going to the oil execs and telling them all the recent profit increases have to go into new refining capacity and new exploration efforts. The alternative is not a big share buyback, it is a windfall profits tax, so get on board or get run over.

16 posted on 05/13/2005 9:07:14 AM PDT by JasonC
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Thanks for your thoughts, Jason. Really very profound thinking. Are you a professional in the petroleum markets?

Char :)

17 posted on 05/13/2005 9:16:35 AM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing.)
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To: JasonC
issues around immigration and trade. The populist rage on the subject is building, and pointing toward unsound policies.

Define "Unsound policies." The populist perspective is to close the borders, fine and/or jail employers of illegals and send illegals home. Those are hardly "unsound policies."

18 posted on 05/13/2005 9:20:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women (HJ Simpson))
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To: CHARLITE
Are you long?

Isn't this fun? Pointless, but entertaining.

19 posted on 05/13/2005 10:56:39 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: CHARLITE

Outstanding article!!!!!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 05/13/2005 10:59:39 AM PDT by Gator113
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