Were Chinese here first? (china; menzies; 1421)

NewsAdvance.com ^ | May 15, 2005 | Shannon Brennan

[evets]

Did they arrive by the 'Sea of China'?

[Jet Jaguar]

The world is flat.

You Art Bell types need to change your foil hats.

[CJ Wolf]

Here are some books.

Four Winds Food Specialists. 1998. Population Profile: Cherokee Indians. Fork, Fingers, and Chopsticks. II(2):3-6. [food habits; North American Indians; Cherokee]

Four Winds Food Specialists. 1997. Population Profile: Asian Indian-americans. Fork, Fingers, & Chopsticks. I(2):3-6. [food habits; North America; United States; Asian Indian immigrants]

Four Winds Food Specialists. 2001. Population Profile: Dakota Indians. Fork, Fingers, & Chopsticks. V(1):3-6. [foodways; diet; North American Indians; Dakota]

[Nathan Zachary]

You are right, if you're taking Muhammad's (Allah's) word for it.

[Little Ray]

Somebody else pointed out that there are structural limitation to wooden hulls that make Zheng He's ocean-liner sized junks kinda unlikely. Somthing about "hogging" - the way the keel bends from too much weight along too great a length.

[CJ Wolf]

http://car.utsa.edu/prehistoricrecipes.htm

"Afterwards, the cooking rocks were lifted out of the fire one at a time, using large sticks made of young cedar or oak saplings which resembled oversized chopsticks."

Off course everything is bigger in texas. But really it's such ancient history I think it's all speculation at this point. The fork really took off after 1492.

[Nathan Zachary]

It only makes sense that Indians would have used sticks of sorts for eating tools. A self learned thing. it's a bit of a stretch to say they it was brought over from Chinese ancestry.
Your probably right leaving it to mere speculation. Little Ray- The Chinese weren't known for their ship building capabilities. I think I read something somewhere that mentioned they were somewhat fearful of the sea. I'll probably figure out where after the thread dies...

[BJClinton]

There are too many good old maps pre-1500 showing the Americas, Antarctica, and Australia,

LOL. Yeah, like the Piri Rees map.

[righttackle44]

In her book, Gods from the Far East: How the Chinese discovered America, Henriette Mertz also lays out this theory. She contended that there were regular tours from China to this continent, that caches of sandals had been planted for the tourists to re-shoe on their journeys to the Grand Canyon and other places.

One of the bases for her theories was that written stores--previously considered "wonder stories," had specific distances recorded in li's [Chinese distance measurements] that, she said, could not place these occupancies in China.

The title of her book apparently capitalized on the titles of Von Daniken's book, Chariot of the Gods. Was an interesting theory at the time.

[JohnnyZ]

In her book, Gods from the Far East: How the Chinese discovered America ...... Von Daniken's book, Chariot of the Gods.

Once and for all, the Goa'uld are false gods!!!

[Tess1]

Ok..now does this mean the indians need to pay reparations to the chinese? Or the Indians need to give casino income to the chinese? Are we white folk off the hook then? Sorry just couldn't help myself...;)

[righttackle44]

"Once and for all, the Goa'uld are false gods!!!"

Are you blaming me for her title? Or didn't you
get your coffee this morning?

[JohnnyZ]

Ummm ........ do you know what the Goa'uld are?

[righttackle44]

"Ummm ........ do you know what the Goa'uld are?"

Have no idea. Don't care. I was just contributing
a comment about something I'd read previously.
You need a good dose of prune juice this morning?

[JohnnyZ]

Well, if you knew what the Goa'uld were, you would have gotten the joke. As it was, you didn't get it, and decided to start insulting me for having the temerity to quote from your post in a fashion that you did not comprehend.

[righttackle44]

Sorry if I misunderstood you.

I wasn't looking to get into a
fight with anyone when I simply
posted a comment.

[Wonder Warthog]

"The sea water isn't raising, it's plate movement as the earth maintains it's globe shape."

There may be some contribution from this effect at some tectonic plate locations, but the evidence for the rise in sea level covers the entire globe, and encompasses ALL the tectonic plates that border on the ocean. Evidence is the continuation of various river beds and flood-plain valleys submerged under hundreds of feet of water as sub-sea "continuations" of major rivers.

There are maps availabe that show what would have been the shorelines during various earlier geological time periods. I don't know if any of'em are available on-line, but I've seen several over the years.

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

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[KateBazilevsky]

Actually, it was found that human programs are recorded in Shan Hai Jing or "The Classic of Mountains and Seas". Also, it was found that "I Ching" and "Tao Te Ching" are commentaries to "Shan Hai Jing". Scientists discovered that the great Leonardo da Vinci was correct in his assumptions - humans ARE biorobots. Every person gets a program at birth. No human is able to deviate from this individual program. Anybody can be manipulated by the use of certain set programs. The question, “What is the soul?” has been answered. For additional information visit Catalog of Human Population