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Everything I learned about successful TV from 'Everybody Loves Raymond'
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | May 15, 2005 | Rob Owen

Posted on 05/16/2005 7:40:32 AM PDT by AmishDude

The success of CBS's "Everybody Loves Raymond" offers several lessons today's TV executives would do well to recognize:

It takes time to grow a hit.

When "Raymond" premiered in September 1996, the show aired at 8:30 p.m. Friday and had terrible ratings. Critics raved about it, but viewers didn't find it. CBS paid attention to the critical plaudits and moved "Raymond" to 8:30 p.m. Monday in 1997, where it grew into a hit.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: lessons; raymond; tv
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To: Banjoguy
I don't like wise crackers from NY....hate Letterman, the original wise a$$.

Letterman's from Indiana.

41 posted on 05/16/2005 8:50:41 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: bonfire

Agreed. There seems to be a general lack of the 'humor' gene at Free Republic anymore.

I find both Seinfeld and Raymond hilarious and I watch when I can.

The humor is harmless and the shows are well-written with fun characters.

I think it's hilarious that Debra has been called a *itch and that people can't stand Marie! Kudos to those fine actresses since that is the role they were paid to play! lol


42 posted on 05/16/2005 8:52:13 AM PDT by SONbrad
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To: SONbrad

I'll bet "Debra" hits a bit too close to home for some!


43 posted on 05/16/2005 8:53:37 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Radioactive

Now I feel soooo inferior after being lectured to. Once in a while it's just best to keep ones opinions to themselves. By the way, are you going to Australia to lecture them on how to live?


44 posted on 05/16/2005 8:53:46 AM PDT by Russ
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To: conservativebabe

That Arrested Development probably won't be having a long run is a very sad thing to me. It would be nice to see the DVD sales for it take off like they did for Family Guy and encourage the network to bring it back. They are both on the Fox Network and they have seemed very committed to AD. I guesss they do realize when they have something that is really good.


45 posted on 05/16/2005 8:55:02 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

The shoe fits; anyway...didn't mean to impy he was originally a NY'er. Thanks for the info.


46 posted on 05/16/2005 8:56:05 AM PDT by Banjoguy (Don't be brain dead.)
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To: RetiredArmy

"I have never watched one minute of this show, or Steinfeld, or Friends. I didn't allow myself to drop to the government school educated level of 5th grade."



Were you wearing your smoking jacket and reading Aristophanes when you typed this?


47 posted on 05/16/2005 8:56:44 AM PDT by macamadamia
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To: macamadamia

LOL! Still wiping the tears from my eyes.

Good one!


48 posted on 05/16/2005 9:00:15 AM PDT by SONbrad
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To: bonfire

By George, I think you hit the nail on the head. LOL.

I have neihbors that are a real-life Marie and Frank. They never fail to make me laugh.


49 posted on 05/16/2005 9:01:20 AM PDT by SONbrad
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To: Mr. Blonde

They don't always stay with a good show - as much as I can't stand Aaron Sorkin, I thought Sports Night was one of the most regrettable cancellations ever.


50 posted on 05/16/2005 9:04:46 AM PDT by AggieCPA (Howdy, Ags!)
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To: AmishDude

I only discovered it in reruns in the past couple of years, so I've never seen the newer shows. Of course, it's the only comedy I watch (and I just catch it sometimes). It does make me laugh. Sometimes I need that after perusing FreeRepublic.....
susie


51 posted on 05/16/2005 9:05:20 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: AggieCPA
...as much as I can't stand Aaron Sorkin, I thought Sports Night was one of the most regrettable cancellations ever.

Agree wholheartedly on both counts.

52 posted on 05/16/2005 9:07:26 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: CCCnative
That's the wonder of the VCR. Record one thing, watch another.

Oddly enough, I can't do that now that I have a satellite dish (and my friends with cable are in the same boat.) The VCR will only record what's coming in on Ch. 3, which is whatever I'm watching at the moment. I can't tape ch 2 from the broadcast airwaves because antennas haven't been worth squat in NYC since the towers went down.

Cable also makes those old picture-in-picture sets sort of useless, too.

53 posted on 05/16/2005 9:12:53 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: All

Just ignore those who make snide comments. They are few in number, as you can see.....plus, they really add nothing to the debate, except call names....notice the first poster to do that. Says alot doesn't it? Anyway, at least Ray and his wife are still on their first marriage, at least that is one good thing about the show. At least the kids are being raised by the original parents.

Have a great day!


54 posted on 05/16/2005 9:13:56 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Radioactive

Good for you. I still have one but it is not hooked to an antenna. We just use it for videos or DVDs and that is usually just 1-2 nights a week, and even then there goes by many a week when I don't watch the fool thing at all. I've managed to fill the time with other stuff.


55 posted on 05/16/2005 9:15:46 AM PDT by Warhammer (An armed society is a polite society.)
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To: macamadamia
Nope. I just don't care for crap TV. I mostly watch the History, Discovery, Learning, OLN, a little PBS but not much. I just don't care for that stuff. I don't find it entertaining at all. Some folks may, but I am not addicted to the TV. We mostly use it to watch movies, and that is the older movies because we don't care for the crap that is coming out now days.
56 posted on 05/16/2005 9:16:41 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Search and Destroy socialist democrats & their leaders Fat Ted, F'n Kerry & the Beast!)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Raymond is funny, but his wife is a real *itch. Can't watch it 'cuz of her. She's just not funny.

???
Yeah, but she's hot. And she's a conservative. With principles. She even walked out of an awards show (where, I believe, she was supposed to present) after a lewd performance was given.

Granted, her character is supposed to be my age, so if you're younger, you might not see it. I find it hard to believe that she's actually a couple of years older than me. In fact, in the episode where someone sneezes on Ray in the airport (offscreen), she's practically draped over a pillow wearing a teddy -- and there was a followup scene a couple of weeks ago.

That said, yeah, a lot of times, her character is a b*tch, but sometimes the only person with any common sense can come across that way.

TS

57 posted on 05/16/2005 9:16:56 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
"She's just not funny."

Her character is a comedic foil, like Audrey Meadows was to Jackie Gleason or Bud Abbott was to Lou Costello.

In other words, Raymond gets to be funny in situations with her because she's playing it straight most of the time. It's the actress's job and she does it extremely well.

The idea of a straight man/woman is a very important element of comedy and has been for centuries, if not millenia.

58 posted on 05/16/2005 9:17:32 AM PDT by Chunga
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To: AmishDude
I not only watch this show, I *LIVE* this show.

I'm "in the zone". My in-laws are a block away. I've been married the same amount of time and my kids are the same gender and ages, except I have one boy, not twins. Of course, that makes me Debra, but my wife would still argue that I'm the one that's the idiot. (That's more gender-oriented, apparently.)

TS

59 posted on 05/16/2005 9:19:20 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: TattooedUSAFConservative

Like her? She's the only one I can even sympathize with...

Ye Gods! If MY mother was ANYTHING like 'Marie' in ELR, I'd move to bloody Botswana.

In my limited viewing of this show, I've come to one conclusion: Ray needs to grow a pair and let the parents know that their house = their rules, and his house = his rules.

= )

IMHO, of course.


60 posted on 05/16/2005 9:23:34 AM PDT by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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