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LIVE SENATE THREAD: "Nuclear Wednesday" for judicial nominations: C-span 2 - 9:30 am EST
C-span 2 ^ | May 18, 2005

Posted on 05/18/2005 5:48:45 AM PDT by ken5050

Welcome, all you Freepers, to the continuing C-span soap operas about judicial nominations. "The Guiding SEARCHLIGHT, " "As the SENATE Turns, "One NOMINATION to Live" "GERIATRIC Hospital" (for all you Byrd and Lautenberg fans out there). Follow along with us, as the Dems raise the level of histrionics, bloviation, pontification, and all around bad acting to new highs, er, lows...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; allen2008; claudenovak; constitutionaloption; cspan; democratnukereaction; filibuster; georgeallen; may18th2005; reidsnuclearreaction; showdown; ussenate
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To: AFPhys

I just sent all of that, including the list of past Dem states on fillibusters, to the Judiciary Committee.


601 posted on 05/18/2005 7:45:08 AM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Soul Seeker

What? Release the senators from party loyalties? Yeah, the RATS will respect that, uh-huh.....


602 posted on 05/18/2005 7:45:28 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by The American Democrat Party, also known as Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: OXENinFLA; Howlin

Before I forget, I will be travelling tomorrow...can either of you , or perhaps both...start the thread and ping everyone....I don't think we should keep it open..better to start a new one each day..thanks in advance..


603 posted on 05/18/2005 7:45:31 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have kids ASAP to pass on her gene pool..any volunteers?)
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To: Cboldt

I believe that the Senate is taking off on Friday.


604 posted on 05/18/2005 7:45:35 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: shellshocked

You came in late - but be prepared for the actual vote not to come until next week, or possibly the week after. It will come, though, at long last.


605 posted on 05/18/2005 7:45:43 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Fudd Fan
Thanks... I THINK! Dingy Harry was truly very funny, IMO.

The demoncrats are trying to change the meaning of the word "is."
They're trying to change the meaning of the word "sex."
They're trying to change the meaning of the word "family."
They're trying to change the meaning of the word "marriage."
They're trying to change the meaning of the word "education."
They're trying to change the meaning of the word "democracy."
Now they're trying to change the meaning of the word "majority."

606 posted on 05/18/2005 7:46:16 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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Frist Nixes Reid's Filibuster Compromise

JESSE J. HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago

WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist on Wednesday rejected last-second offers from Democrats to avoid a showdown over whether they can use parliamentary delaying tactics to sabotage lifetime judgeships for people they vehemently oppose.

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid tried to get Frist to skip over the nomination of Texas Judge Pricilla Owen, one of the most hotly contested of the Bush administration's judgeship appointments, and instead confirm consensus nominees to two other courts.

Reid, D-Nev., also suggested that Frist call a senators-only meeting in the Capitol's Old Senate Chamber — no aides, just all 100 senators — where they could hash out the controversy on their own, just as they did to work out how senators would handle President Clinton's impeachment.

"Have all of us retire to the chamber, sit down and talk through this issue to see if there's a way we can resolve this short of this nuclear option," Reid said. His reference to "nuclear option" was to the terminology Democrats have given to Republican threats to curtail their ability to filibuster judicial nominees.

But Frist, R-Tenn., said he was ready to move forward.

"I'm trying to move to a qualified nominee, Priscilla Owen and we hear these attempts to delay even right now, to sidetrack, to even consider somebody else and that's the challenge," he said. "That's why we're on the floor of the United States Senate, with the light of day, with the American people watching."

With the Owen nomination now pending, time is running out on senators who want to find a compromise and avoid a vote in the Senate to block Democrats from filibustering the White House's judicial nominees. If majority Republicans opt to change the rules to disallow filibusters of judicial nominees — the move labeled a "nuclear option" — parliamentary warfare between Democrats and Republicans could escalate and stall Bush's legislative agenda.

Senators expect to debate Owen's nomination all this week and take a test vote early next week. If that vote is not successful, then Frist plans to call a vote on banning judicial filibusters, aides said.

Frist insists that all judicial nominees deserve confirmation votes. "I've made it clear what the principle is, a fair up-or-down vote," he said.

After meeting with Owen and California judge Janice Rogers Brown, who were blocked by Democrats during Bush's first term, Republicans announced that Owen's nomination for an appeals court seat would be the vehicle for the attempt to prohibit Democrats from filibustering judicial nominations.

The two women, who are among Bush's most-wanted judicial nominees, met with the president at the White House on Tuesday and later with Senate GOP leaders at the Capitol.

Owen is praised as an ideal candidate by conservatives but criticized by liberals as being biased toward business interests and anti-abortion.

Reid refuses to give up Democrats' ability to block Supreme Court and lower court nominees they consider too extreme. Court watchers think a Supreme Court vacancy could happen sometime this year.

"The goal of the Republican leadership and their allies in the White House is to pave the way for a Supreme Court nominee who would only need 50 votes for confirmation rather than 60," the number of senators needed to maintain a filibuster, Reid said

Democrats have prevented final votes on 10 of Bush's first-term appeals court nominees, and have threatened to do the same this year to seven the president renominated, including Owen and California judge Janice Rogers Brown. Frist has threatened to try to keep Democrats from blocking judges by use of the filibuster, a parliamentary device that can be overcome only by a majority of 60 votes or higher.

Just 51 votes are needed to approve a nominee once a vote is called in the 100-member Senate, and only 50 if the vice president, who breaks ties, votes in favor of a nominee. Frist could prevail with 50 votes supporting his move to rule filibusters out of order when used to block a confirmation vote because Vice President Dick Cheney has said he will break a tie in favor of ending judicial filibusters.

Neither side appears certain it has enough votes to prevail if the issue is put to a test.


607 posted on 05/18/2005 7:46:25 AM PDT by deport (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue....)
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To: ken5050

Specter is playing right into the democrats hands.........what a dumba$$.


608 posted on 05/18/2005 7:46:28 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: ken5050

So Specter asked the parties to contact their senators regarding a jurist. How is that different than the commercials that ran in Pennsylvania which he said were unproductive. What an asshole!!


609 posted on 05/18/2005 7:47:02 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: jacquej
Ok, if this is going to go on for a week, how to I allocate my time?

Independent study is a good way to fill the next couple days.

Beer runs are fine too. ;-)

610 posted on 05/18/2005 7:47:07 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: prairiebreeze

There are rumors that Arlen will soon retire because of health...he's trying to cement his legacy...pull off a compromise..


611 posted on 05/18/2005 7:47:15 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have kids ASAP to pass on her gene pool..any volunteers?)
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To: Howlin; EQAndyBuzz
"Where did you get that 200 million number?"


Yeah ... what's up with that? URL w/ source?

612 posted on 05/18/2005 7:47:22 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Save the Republic from the shallow, demagogic sectarians.)
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To: concerned about politics

And Harry Reid doesn't know the definition of "paramour" either!! Best laugh I've had today.


613 posted on 05/18/2005 7:47:26 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Dem & RINO senators have "eaten on the insane root that takes the reason prisoner."---.Macbeth)
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To: prairiebreeze
This bald bastard speaking right now is why Rick Santorum will be getting his ass kicked right our of the Senate, with good riddance.
614 posted on 05/18/2005 7:47:41 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Soul Seeker

I agree...a good presentation...and he's taking the Dems to the woodshed..


615 posted on 05/18/2005 7:47:56 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have kids ASAP to pass on her gene pool..any volunteers?)
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To: MamaLucci

Does this guy ever consult his leader? He'd better vote with the Pubs.


616 posted on 05/18/2005 7:47:58 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: MamaLucci
Specter has cancer.

Ah. I did not know that...

617 posted on 05/18/2005 7:48:12 AM PDT by mhking (Newsweek lied, people died... --Turk 182)
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To: MamaLucci
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618 posted on 05/18/2005 7:48:29 AM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: ken5050

Take your 2 to 4 nominees with Republicans picking them, and stick them where the sunshine doesn't shine!


619 posted on 05/18/2005 7:48:31 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Howlin

Hmmm....


620 posted on 05/18/2005 7:48:41 AM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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