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PETER PAUL AND HILLARY: No. 13 - How is David Rosen Like Sally Field?
DFU in the court room | 5-25-05 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 05/25/2005 8:56:08 PM PDT by doug from upland

www.HillCAP.org

INTRO and EPISODES 1-10

11- $2,000 Returned, We Keep the 2 Mil, Meet Bill on AF One with More
12 – Hillary’s Laundromat at 88 3rd Avenue, Brooklyn, NY

NOTE: This is the 13th episode in a series of stories regarding the events surrounding Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Hollywood fundraiser, and the business relationship of entrepreneur Peter Paul, the impeached William Jefferson Clinton, and Hillary Rodham Clinton, perpetrator of the largest campaign finance fraud in the history of Western civilization.

In 1985, Sally Field won her second Academy Award in five years for her work on Places in the Heart. In a memorable acceptance speech, she thanked the audience and proclaimed, “The first time I didn't feel it, but this time I feel it, and I can't deny the fact that you like me, right now, you like me!" I know that you are wondering how this applies to the David Rosen trial. Hold on. I’ll shortly connect the dots.

I spent the day in Los Angeles Federal District court today to hear the final grilling of David Rosen by prosecutor Peter Zeidenberg. I expected LAFD to be called because Rosen’s pants were definitely on fire. He was lying his butt off. Prosecutor Daniel Schwager did a brilliant job laying it all out in closing arguments. Paul Sandler sounded foolish for the defense, but in fairness to him, he doesn’t have much with which to work. Rosen’s hand was caught in the cookie jar for everyone to see. It is still actually still stuck in that cookie jar. Sandler’s only hope is for a jury with an IQ of 180. That is, for all of them together.

Rosen has a big future as a stand up comedian after he gets out of jail. His comedic timing was impeccable when he gave his punch line for the adventure at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Here’s the background. Rosen arrived in Los Angeles to get working on the fundraiser on or about July 15, 2000. He stayed nine days at L'Ermitage Hotel at a cost of $3,500.


He tried to explain that things were hectic, and he needed a nice place to relax with good amenities. He didn’t stay with his sister and didn’t stay in a Marriott, which would have been paid by the campaign.

We are supposed to believe that he would spend $3,500 for the hotel on his $105,000 salary and not ask for any reimbursement. He testified that Tonken didn’t pay for it. Unknown to the judge and jury, Rosen was reimbursed. Guess by whom. Yes, by Peter Paul. Rosen has never reported that.

The story continues a few weeks later. He came back to L.A. on July 30 to work on the gala and this time stayed in the ritzy Beverly Hills Hotel. Rosen testified that he stayed there at the insistence of Aaron Tonken, who eventually paid the bill of almost $10,000. He didn’t report it. And he didn’t report the use of the $80,000 Porsche.

Now for the Sally Field moment. Rosen testified that he thought the Beverly Hills Hotel bill and use of the Porsche was a personal gift and not reportable. It was pointed out that Rosen had only known Tonken for about a month and a half. When asked why Tonken would pay his Beverly Hills Hotel bill, he responded that it was a "personal gift because he liked me." (insert rimshot) Ummmm, David, if he likes you, watch out. Tonken is gay. Need we wonder whether Rosen reported the gift to the IRS?

The frivolity doesn’t end there. When asked by the prosecutor about the use of the Porsche, Rosen said he knows he would have had to report a rental car. In this case, he didn’t think it had to be reported because Tonken "was not in the rental car business." Prosecutor Peter Zeidenberg came out with a great response. “No, he’s a donor!”

From what I’ve read of the testimony and being there in person today, Rosen wants all of us to believe that all of the witnesses are lying except him. If this jury cannot convict Rosen with all the evidence it has, the court system in Los Angeles should be shut down. It will be broken beyond repair.

As soon as I got back home, I took a shower. I felt really slimy. Why? Because I had been within a few feet of Harold Ickes.

Virtus
May 25, 2005
Doug from Upland


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; david; davidrosen; dear; financial; fraud; friend; fundraiser; gala; hillary; hillaryscandals; impeachedx42; judicialwatchjinx; paul; peter; president; rosen; scam; x42

1 posted on 05/25/2005 8:56:08 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: Blurblogger

Ping


2 posted on 05/25/2005 8:56:25 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland
"As soon as I got back home, I took a shower. I felt really slimy. Why? Because I had been within a few feet of Harold Ickes."

I think some kind of industrial strength cleanser would have been more appropriate.
3 posted on 05/25/2005 9:01:05 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: doug from upland

Ickes....what an appropos name.


4 posted on 05/25/2005 9:05:40 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: doug from upland
If I found myself in the same room with Harold Ickes there are only two words that could describe my actions:

Temporary insanity.

L

5 posted on 05/25/2005 9:08:47 PM PDT by Lurker (Remember the Beirut Bombing; 243 dead Marines. The House of Assad and Hezbollah did it..)
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To: All

Ickes was there to testify that Rosen was not in jeopardy of losing his job. Right.


6 posted on 05/25/2005 9:10:33 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; Smartass; Happy2BMe; devolve; potlatch; ...

7 posted on 05/25/2005 9:14:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: doug from upland
As soon as I got back home, I took a shower. I felt really slimy. Why? Because I had been within a few feet of Harold Ickes.

Consider yourself lucky Ickes didn't bite you on the leg. Remember when he did that?!

8 posted on 05/25/2005 9:24:50 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Congressman Billybob; Buckhead; Howlin; Nick Danger; Alamo-Girl; Mia T; Peach; backhoe; ...

DFU "Peter Paul & Hillary" PING!

Latest News on Hillary Scandals

Ping List ADD/REMOVE--FReepmail Blurblogger, not DFU

9 posted on 05/25/2005 9:46:44 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Blurblogger

Thanks for the ping!


10 posted on 05/25/2005 9:48:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: PhilDragoo

I love that! Your color co-ordination is perfect, LOL.

You can gaze at the vortex and get hypnotized, then suddenly you see Hillary and get jolted out of it!!


11 posted on 05/25/2005 9:55:47 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: doug from upland

Way to go Doug. I just hope Freddie isn't on that jury. He would drop the jury's IQ to well below 180.

For those of you who aren't familiar with the LA news scene in the last half century, Freddie would call The Great George Putnam on his talk show on a regular basis and tell all that "President Clinton is the finest president we eva had!" and he meant it. Doug would call weekly with a lymeric or two and some news about the Slick One, as would many others who continue to inform us Freepers to this day.


12 posted on 05/25/2005 11:59:05 PM PDT by i get it
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To: doug from upland

le bump


13 posted on 05/26/2005 1:32:28 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: doug from upland

Great Job!

Hugh and Series!


14 posted on 05/26/2005 2:29:09 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: doug from upland
I had been within a few feet of Harold Ickes.

Did he have a pencil in his ear?

15 posted on 05/26/2005 2:46:45 AM PDT by beyond the sea (I’m sleeping with myself tonight.........saved in time, thank God my music’s still alive)
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To: doug from upland
Thank you for going to the trial, and for making the report.

There's a saying here in the mountains that applies to many of the top income people in Hollywood. It is, "He has more money than sense."

"Normal" people are not in a position to give away $10,000 without flinching, or concerning ourselves with how it is reported or whether it is deductible. Nor are normal people in the habit of lending out their $80,000 cars to passing strangers.

Hillary! was accustomed to dealing with people who treat money like confetti. Rosen, on the other hand, was not. She knew how to conceal the sources of ill-gotten gains (plausible deniability, futures market, etc.). Rosen did not.

We must hope that the prosecutor played his hand right, so that Rosen will be convicted on multiple counts. When that happens, however, Freepers should not get excited that the prosecutors will climb (or descend) the food chain and bring charges against Hillary! It ain't gonna happen.

We have to convict Hillary! not in court, but in the court of public opinion. Understand that it will be the same process as with Teddy Kennedy, who was never charged with any crime having to do with the death of Mary Jo Kopechne.

We have to bring the public to the point that "we all know she did it." And in that sentence, "all" need be only significantly more than half. That will be sufficient to keep her out of the White House, forever.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "The Gunfight at Not-OK Corral"

16 posted on 05/26/2005 4:14:51 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
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To: doug from upland

Hildabeaste BUMP!


17 posted on 05/26/2005 4:36:30 AM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: doug from upland

BTTT


18 posted on 05/26/2005 5:48:10 AM PDT by b4its2late (It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.)
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To: Blurblogger

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 05/26/2005 5:49:47 AM PDT by PilloryHillary (Stop domestic terrorism. Pillary Hillary! pilloryhillary.com)
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To: beyond the sea
'Did he have a pencil in his ear?'

"I can't hear you - I have a banana in my ear!"

20 posted on 05/26/2005 6:07:55 AM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: doug from upland; Blurblogger

Thank you, Doug, for keeping on top of this and for your energy and commitment. Thanks Blurblogger, for keeping me informed.


21 posted on 05/26/2005 6:40:08 AM PDT by peacebaby (This is the way to peace: Overcome evil with good, falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.)
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To: doug from upland

I remember seeing Ickes on videotape threatening to pee on the rug when Judicial Watch was questioning him.


22 posted on 05/26/2005 6:46:33 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: doug from upland
Awarded to Doug From Upland on this day in the year of the Lord May 26, 2005.

To Doug: For courage, and for service above and beyond
the call of duty.....being within a few feet of Harold Ickes (gag).

23 posted on 05/26/2005 6:52:06 AM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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To: PhilDragoo

Looks like a bad 60s acid trip . bummer ,, bummer .


24 posted on 05/26/2005 7:04:27 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( my tag line is on strike ))
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To: phoenix0468

How funny. His name is appropriate though don't you think?

Can anyone tell me why I was unable to copy #12. The Fax was blurred and the following about the workers party (how socialist is that?)
I bought my computer in 1998, it is a dial up. I can copy out most things curious the portion was blurred. I went to the Hillcap web site to try and get it from there, but the same thing happened.


25 posted on 05/26/2005 9:23:12 AM PDT by Burlem
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To: doug from upland; Peach; onyx; PilloryHillary

bump!


26 posted on 05/26/2005 9:37:43 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Burlem
LINK TO THE FAX ON WWW.HILLCAP.ORG
27 posted on 05/26/2005 10:07:18 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: Blurblogger; doug from upland

Thanks for the ping to doug's good work.

Doug: I'm pondering pinging that citizen guy if only I could recall the rest of his screen name! LOL! You know the one I mean.


28 posted on 05/26/2005 10:39:05 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

I can't remember the clown's full name either.


29 posted on 05/26/2005 10:40:11 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland


That proves his insignificance! LOL!
I just thought of it, but I'm not going to court trouble.


30 posted on 05/26/2005 10:42:17 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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Frommer's Review


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31 posted on 05/26/2005 10:44:45 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland

Thanks for the effort, however everything is fine except the fax portion it is blurry just as it was the first time.
I tried getting it from hillcap but same thing. Must be somethng about my computer, cannot figure what else.


32 posted on 05/26/2005 11:59:02 AM PDT by Burlem
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To: All

Most recent member comment


Comment by Gaby_TakesOff (Advance Reviewer) on 9/26/2003:
The hotel seems to be designed for Beverly Hills. The rooms are beautifully decorated in a modern style with elements from the 50's. In the bathrooms you'll find "philosophy toileteries" - one of the nice surprises that make you feel special. Marilyn Monroe who resided here when it was still the Beverly-Carlton, would certainly want come back here.


33 posted on 05/26/2005 4:48:31 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: Burlem

I would almost bet that the image is a rastered gif that is still coming into focus. It would probably take quite a while on a dialup connection. Especially if you are using an older, slower modem.


34 posted on 05/26/2005 9:47:24 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: doug from upland
Because I had been within a few feet of Harold Ickes.

Imagine that. Yet another Clintonista observing this trial. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.......

/sarcasm

35 posted on 05/27/2005 7:27:15 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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