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Monday Morning Quarterback (AFC predictions)
Sports Illustrated ^ | June 6, 2005 | Peter King

Posted on 06/06/2005 9:05:16 AM PDT by Asphalt

GRAND CHUTE, Wis. -- This is my AFC prediction column, and you're probably wondering: What is that weird dateline doing on the AFC prediction column? Well, I came to Wisconsin over the weekend to take the temperature of Brett Favre and gauge his readiness for a 14th season in Green Bay, so it just happens to be where I am right now.

Favre interlude: The Packers QB holds an annual benefit softball game in this little suburb of Appleton, Wis., a 30-minute drive from Lambeau Field. He does it here because this is where the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers, the Midwest League Class A affiliate of the Seattle Mariners, play in a nice little venue called Fox Cities Stadium.

Favre looked good. Said he weighs 224 pounds and just finished a five-week, five-day-a-week workout regimen with former Notre Dame strength and conditioning man Ken Kroener down in Mississippi. The Packers paid for the training because they think Favre needs to be in better condition to withstand the rigors of an NFL season than he was last year. Which Favre, basically, confirmed. "People made a big deal of this," he told me, sitting at a locker in the Timber Rattlers' spartan clubhouse, "but I do feel better. This time last year, I hadn't really done anything."

Favre's conditioning program included stretching, body-weight lunges. . .

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"Now for the AFC champion.

Surprise! New England.

Super Bowl XL, Feb. 5, 2006: Vikings versus Patriots.

This goes against the logic my anti-Eagles NFC pick, which I made because I think it's only a matter of time before the forces of Tagliabuian gravity take a team that's been on top for five years down to earth. The Eagles have won an average of 11.8 games per regular season over the past five years, and recent football history during the free-agency era says a five-year run of excellence is about all any team has in it. Well, this is New England's fifth year.

I like how, despite being battered this offseason, the Patriots used the opportunity to reinvent themselves to a degree. I think the change from Romeo Crennel to Eric Mangini on defense will be as seamless as it can be when a very good tactician and motivator is lost. Mangini is a younger Bill Belichick with a more human side to him. . ."

All you Pats fans out there who say that the media is always telling you you can't do it again, shut up once and for all:) Every year I read columns like this, and every year Pats fans complain they don't get their respect. /rant

1 posted on 06/06/2005 9:05:18 AM PDT by Asphalt
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); akorahil; albee; andyland; Argh; Asphalt; b4its2late; BigBadWolf; ...

NFL PING
FReepmail me to get on or off

2 posted on 06/06/2005 9:05:54 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Asphalt

Egad. King likes the Vikings. We'll see.


3 posted on 06/06/2005 9:07:02 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Ah, spring. Such as it is.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I think they're probabley going to win it too. Don't know how this works, but the Viking will be better for losing Randy Moss, and the Raiders will be better for getting him.


4 posted on 06/06/2005 9:08:49 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Asphalt

Oh, how lame.

Going back over 30 years, this year's Super Bowl winner is almost invariably predicted as next year's Super Bowl winner.

Not that the Pats are not the best team in the AFC--they probably are--but these sportswriters who are unable to see past January and just make the safe pick are pretty silly.


5 posted on 06/06/2005 9:10:41 AM PDT by Skooz (If everyone knew everything about everyone, no one would have anything to do with anyone)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

King Likes fellating Canines too.

Doesn't make it right.....


6 posted on 06/06/2005 9:13:04 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Skooz
yeah they usually do pick the same team,The AFC is so much better than the NFC... the contenders are Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Jets, Chiefs and the Chargers, I would guess at this time.
7 posted on 06/06/2005 9:16:34 AM PDT by scott says
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To: Asphalt
I like how, despite being battered this offseason, the Patriots used the opportunity to reinvent themselves to a degree.

This Jet Hating SOB kills me. Not Only are the Bills a Playoff team with 1st year QB Loserman, despite an incredible upgrade on offense for last years #7 overall defensive team (Hackett--> Out, Heimerdinger IN, Santana Moss Out, Coles in, and Justin Miller returning kicks...) .....

But He knows How the Patriots are going to be playing absent Crennell, but ESPECIALLY Charlie Weis, who has been the Best OC in the Game since 1998.

Pr!*k.

8 posted on 06/06/2005 9:17:05 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: scott says

I said it last year, whoever wins the AFC championship game wins the Super Bowl. Period.


9 posted on 06/06/2005 9:17:17 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Skooz

yep


10 posted on 06/06/2005 9:17:45 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: hobbes1

hehe


11 posted on 06/06/2005 9:17:56 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Asphalt
And the Cleveland Browns will finish a worldwind season in fourth place in the AFC North!

Yea, BROWNS!

Sometimes, I don't know whether to laugh or cry about my Cleveland teams.


12 posted on 06/06/2005 9:19:01 AM PDT by rdb3 (Yeah, but what's it spelled backwards?)
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To: hobbes1

He's a bit too arrogant for me, but I read anything football I can get my hands on.


13 posted on 06/06/2005 9:19:02 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: rdb3

They have a good coach, new players, things are looking up for them, in a few years they'll be second behind my beloved Steelers.


14 posted on 06/06/2005 9:19:49 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Asphalt

its such a reversal in positions, 10 years ago the NFC was totally dominant, now it is the AFC, I wonder exactly why?


15 posted on 06/06/2005 9:20:14 AM PDT by scott says
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To: Asphalt

As a Pats fan, I'd rather he picked someone else. This is the guy that predicted a Seahawks/Jags Super Bowl last year!!!

Seriously, even if no one picks tha Pats this year, I don't think you'll hear any moaning about it from these parts. I always thought the inferiority complex about our teams was an extension of Red Sox angst. With the World Series issue has been taken care of(I refuse to say curse), the only people you'll hear play the "disrespect" card will be Pats coaches (how else can they motivate the reigning champs?)


16 posted on 06/06/2005 9:21:46 AM PDT by danno3150
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To: Colonel_Flagg

New England is a safe pick, but anyone who puts their hopes on the Vikings knows how that will turn out.


17 posted on 06/06/2005 9:21:58 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Asphalt
They have a good coach, new players, things are looking up for them...

Looking up? Where else can the Browns look?

Right now, all they see when they look up is a snail's butt.


18 posted on 06/06/2005 9:22:21 AM PDT by rdb3 (Yeah, but what's it spelled backwards?)
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To: scott says

Actually, in head to head games, the AFC has been dominant for many years. It's just that the NFC team usually won the Super Bowl.


19 posted on 06/06/2005 9:23:03 AM PDT by Skooz (If everyone knew everything about everyone, no one would have anything to do with anyone)
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To: Dog Gone
anyone who puts their hopes on the Vikings knows how that will turn out.

Well, that would be me, so we'll see.

20 posted on 06/06/2005 9:23:51 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Ah, spring. Such as it is.)
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To: scott says

Don't know. But I like the AFC more anyway.


21 posted on 06/06/2005 9:24:44 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: danno3150

that's just the thing, since the Sox won, you can no longer say it was a curse, you just have to settle for the fact that they sucked all those years, and then they got good.


22 posted on 06/06/2005 9:25:42 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Skooz

Really? I had no idea.


23 posted on 06/06/2005 9:26:16 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Asphalt

Could be. All I know is that we didn't get enough for Moss in trade and picked the wrong WR when our turn came. That deal, from the standpoint of squad development, was not good for us.

However, if the new defensive horses stay healthy it could be a fun season.


24 posted on 06/06/2005 9:26:32 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Ah, spring. Such as it is.)
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To: Skooz
Look at all the "great" teams from the 80's and 90's that used to be dominant, 49ers, Giants,Bears, Redskin's and the Cowboys. They are all terrible now, the Cowboys are the only team that might have a respectable season.The AFC is just so much better.
25 posted on 06/06/2005 9:26:37 AM PDT by scott says
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To: hobbes1

Information overload :)


26 posted on 06/06/2005 9:27:03 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Ah, spring. Such as it is.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Nope. Mark my words, Troy Williamson will be better than Mike Williams. I'm not betting my computer on it, but I think they did the right thing. Napoleon Harris will be good, trust me. I had him on my Madden 2005 team once, and my defense dominated.


27 posted on 06/06/2005 9:27:54 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
My closest friend is a rabid Vikings fan, and I have assured him for years that the Vikings will win a Super Bowl, but exactly one year after his death.

Torturing Viking fans is an simple and fun hobby. It can be done easily with just two words.

Drew Pearson.

28 posted on 06/06/2005 9:28:42 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: beyond the sea

ping


29 posted on 06/06/2005 9:29:15 AM PDT by drungus
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To: scott says

Dallas should be better with a revamped defense and Bledsoe instead of Interceptaverde, perhaps at best a 10-6 playoff team. But still no match for the Eagles, unfortunately for me a Dallas fan. But you never know...


30 posted on 06/06/2005 9:29:29 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Dog Gone
Drew Pearson.

And we reply with three words.

Offensive Pass Interference. :)

31 posted on 06/06/2005 9:30:28 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Ah, spring. Such as it is.)
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To: Asphalt

True Sox fans NEVER referred to the lack of winning as a curse. The curse was an invention of a hack Boston Globe columnist. It was made worse by the truly lame and unimaginative hacks at Fox Sports. True fans knew that incompetent management, ridculously bad ownership and poor players caused the lack of championships.


32 posted on 06/06/2005 9:32:13 AM PDT by danno3150
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To: Asphalt
I said it last year, whoever wins the AFC championship game wins the Super Bowl. Period.

Funny how times change. There used to be an extra "N" is that sentence and one fewer "A".

"When I was a lad, the Super Bowl was always a lame blow-out. The real Super Bowl was the Dallas-SF game the week before. Of course, I didn't have a TV then. I had to go to the local church, which was five miles away, uphill, both ways, in two feet of snow . . . "

TS
(you youngens have it easy what with those fancy teeth and all . . . )

33 posted on 06/06/2005 9:32:41 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Asphalt
Jerry Rice will lead the Broncos back to the Super Bowl.

I can dream, can't I?

34 posted on 06/06/2005 9:33:29 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Tanniker Smith

hehe


35 posted on 06/06/2005 9:34:29 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: drungus

I'm surprised he hasn't showed up on any of these threads, saw him on a bunch last season.


36 posted on 06/06/2005 9:35:21 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Dog Gone

I'll pick your top six AFC teams right here...

Indianapolis- Manning finally beats New England.
New England- They're good, but they've lost too much.
Pittsburgh- Roethlisberger improves, the running game stays consistent. Watch out for this team in '06.
Cincinatti- The Bungles live up to the promise they showed in 2003 with a 10 win season.
San Diego- Decent QB, great RB get this team to the playoffs.
Jacksonville- The Jags chop wood all the way to the playoffs, especially if their unconventional first round pick pays off...


37 posted on 06/06/2005 9:36:06 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (<a HREF="http://www.democraticunderground.com">Fruits and Nuts</a>)
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To: GSWarrior

You can dream. I'm betting he gets 27 receptions for 284 yards, and three touchdowns. Two catches of over fourty yards, 8 first downs. Bookmarking for reference.


38 posted on 06/06/2005 9:37:12 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Dog Gone

We have had a lot more disapointments than just that game. I think the Vikings had a very good draft...but then again..we needed it.


39 posted on 06/06/2005 9:37:53 AM PDT by doggieboy (Bush's exit strategy for Iraq is through Iran.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Sounds good, Bettis will most likely retire after '05 (a sure bet for the HOF) and they'll pick up a decent back to help out Staley around the 3rd or 4th round in the draft, that or Free Agency.


40 posted on 06/06/2005 9:38:43 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Asphalt

They media may finally be getting the message. A lot of the folks at ESPN who picked against the Pats in the playoff game against Indy swore they'd never make that mistake again. We'll see.


41 posted on 06/06/2005 9:39:26 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: over3Owithabrain

I think Dallas may be able to snatch the game at Texas Stadium away from the Evils, like they did in 2003.


42 posted on 06/06/2005 9:40:23 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (<a HREF="http://www.democraticunderground.com">Fruits and Nuts</a>)
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To: Asphalt

He either thinks very highly of Jacksonville or he's down on Indy this year.


43 posted on 06/06/2005 9:41:07 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan

we shall indeed.


44 posted on 06/06/2005 9:41:40 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Asphalt

No doubt.


45 posted on 06/06/2005 9:42:44 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan

I'm thinking Indy will be almost the same, manning gets around 35 tds. Manning gets injured in game 12, comes back for the playoffs, they make it pretty far, maaaayyyyybee to the SB, it's a toss up between the Burgh, pats, and indy.


46 posted on 06/06/2005 9:43:07 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: hobbes1

The Jets will make the playoffs over Buffalo and the Pats maybe even stronger this year.


47 posted on 06/06/2005 9:43:30 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: rdb3

Sounds like me 15 years ago.


48 posted on 06/06/2005 9:44:04 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Asphalt

What's your favorite beverage? Total yards, touchdown catches, total catches. My bet is BMW beats Williamson in at least two of three. And let's not even talk about career stats.

We wouldn't stretch the field last season when we had Moss. What makes anyone think we'll do it this season with Williamson? Give me the 6'5", 39-inch vertical leap clone of Cris Carter any day.

Glad Napoleon Harris dominates in Madden 2005. But nn the real field, we have a history of taking reject Raiders linebackers (remember Harris chased Greg Biekert out of a starting job) and that doesn't cut the mustard.

I stand by my statement. :)


49 posted on 06/06/2005 9:44:51 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Ah, spring. Such as it is.)
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To: danno3150

Belichick is a master at motivating his players. He'll find a way.


50 posted on 06/06/2005 9:45:09 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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