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The Real Gulag
self | 6/16/05 | bray

Posted on 06/16/2005 10:46:01 AM PDT by bray

So now the Democrats are attacking our troops by comparing them to the guards in the Gulag Archipelago and Pol Pot death camps. Once again the Party is supporting the enemy Terrorists that we are fighting as always. The same Party who has supported the IRA, PLO, FLN, KLA, Hezbola and every other terrorist group that attacks America supports today’s terrorists killing Americans. The same Party that hid and supported the Gulag when it was run by the Soviet Union is now condemning those prisons of death.

If Dick Durtbag wants to throw around words like Gulag, let’s take a look at exactly what he is calling our Troops. Please do not read further if you are under 18 or have a weak stomach. The death camps in the Soviet Union were designed by Stalin to eliminate dissident and the homeless and turn them into work camps. Being an enemy of the State included 10 years for taking a rotting vegetable from a communal farm. In Soltzenietzen’s case it was questioning a superior officer in a letter to his wife. Many of the tactics used were designed by the German SS who were recruited at the end of the war to help run these camps.

After a Soviet Citizen was taken off the streets he/she was given a quick hearing w/o defense and then given his ten year sentence. Ten years was essentially life since the chances of surviving was around 20-25%.

They were then loaded into boxcars with around 150 per car with no facilities other than a bucket in the middle. The people were packed so close that the people in the middle would suffocate after a few minutes and then have to be moved out to the outside and breath the cold smoky air coming through the sidewalls of the car. Thousands died on the trip to the Gulags.

Barking dogs would meet them at the Gulag as the people were herded to the camps. At the camp the people would be stripped naked and have to wait in rooms while guards watched from windows on the other side. This was to humiliate and dehumanize in addition the guards would choose the women they wanted for concubines. These women would be rewarded with extra rations for their sexual favors.

The torture sessions would start either here or before the hearing depending on the person. The person would be locked naked in a cell w/o heat in sub-freezing temperatures until his session. Some of the sessions included sexual humiliation. One was putting razor blades around a man’s penis and then having naked women walk around him. Another was to lie him face down on the floor while a woman with spiked heals would crush his testicles with her heel. There were very few cases the prisoner would not confess to anything.

The Volga Canal was called the River of Bones because it was estimated that 1000 people died for every mile of the 100 mile canal. It was dug during the middle of winter while the prisoners worked 24 hours a day. Any prisoner who complained or was a problem would be staked out naked in 15 below temperatures and have a bucket of water thrown on him to freeze him to death. One camp would have mosquitoes flying in swarms that darkened the skies so they would stake prisoners out for hours naked to let the mosquitoes bite them. Guards or Administrators who did not go along with these tactics or didn’t meet schedules were also killed.

When they returned to their cinder block cells they could look forward for a cup of broth and a small piece of moldy bread. They would lose an average of 50 lbs in the first 60 days. When they were too weak to work they would just cut their rations. The Russians found that starvation was the cheapest method of killing rather than expensive bullets while in addition would receive the benefit of cheap labor. This inhumanity is what caused me to leave the DemoCommunist Party.

This is what a US Senator and the Rat Party is calling our Proud Soldiers, nothing less. These Communist camps worldwide have murdered over 100 million innocent people in the past 75 years. The stretch is not even comparable, yet this Durtbag is allowed to get away with it. We are not torturing people in the methods of the Soviets or Cambodians. To suggest it is sickening. This Party believes the only way they can regain their power is for America to lose the War in Iraq and are doing everything they can to accomplish that goal. The only people lower than the Gulag guards are Democrats who attack our own Troops.

Ronald Reagan freed millions of prisoners from these camps which was the first major loss for the Democrat Party. President George W Bush freed thousands of prisoners in Iraq from the same prisons, which was the second major loss.

Pray for W and Our Proud Troops


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1 posted on 06/16/2005 10:46:01 AM PDT by bray
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To: cake_crumb; fight_truth_decay; RottiBiz; usmc_chris; auboy; GeorgiaYankee; TomasUSMC; ...

ping


2 posted on 06/16/2005 10:47:00 AM PDT by bray (Pray for Iraq's Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: bray

The rats hate GW, a strong America and a strong American military.


3 posted on 06/16/2005 10:49:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: bray

We knew the rats would try these tactics. They still can't get over the fact that they were DEFEATED in November. These are the tactics of desperate people.


4 posted on 06/16/2005 10:50:03 AM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in! Never, never, never, never! Never yield in any way great or small.)
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To: bray

Maybe one should consider organizing a demonstration camp on GULAG lines strictly for the purpose of re-educating leftists. And putting Michael Moore or Ted Kennedy on a compulsory GULAG diet would do them a lot of good besides reeducation.


5 posted on 06/16/2005 10:50:38 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Grampa Dave

From 1935 until 1995... 60 years they totally controlled the government.

That is a LOT to lose and we have Bill Clinton to thank for it.

I can understand their frustration... but their willingness to undermine our national security is unacceptable. They should be made to pay for it.


6 posted on 06/16/2005 10:51:00 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: bray

The outrages perpetrated by the human race against itself are simply mind-boggling. We live in a time of "history lite"- for the most part we're not seeing the level of horrors seen at most times in human history. Hence the outrage over women "invading the space" of cold-blooded murderers at Gitmo.


7 posted on 06/16/2005 10:52:21 AM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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To: bray

If I knew how and had the equipment to do it I would make a commercial starting off showing Durdin speaking yesterday then as he spoke of the "torture" our military is guilty of I would show video of the nazi death camps and the mass graves in Iraq.

Then close with some dialog about the real danger he has put our troops in, because he's trying to gain some partisan political advantage.


8 posted on 06/16/2005 10:58:41 AM PDT by federal
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To: federal

Ive been thinking of renting some billboard space for a month. It's only about $300.


9 posted on 06/16/2005 11:00:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: Paloma_55

You forgot about Ronald Reagan for 8 of those years.

However, they feel like they own America regardless if they are elected or defeated at the polls.


10 posted on 06/16/2005 11:04:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: bray
"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."

Dick Durbin

11 posted on 06/16/2005 11:04:59 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: bray; Flyer

bump!


12 posted on 06/16/2005 11:05:53 AM PDT by Txslady
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To: bray
The same Party who has supported the IRA, PLO, FLN, KLA, Hezbola and every other terrorist group that attacks America supports today’s terrorists killing Americans.

You forgot to mention the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Communists.

But we get you point. If you named all the totalitarians, dictators, torturers, murderers and perverts this Party has supported the list would get wearying.

13 posted on 06/16/2005 11:06:46 AM PDT by Gritty ("Bill Clinton is the novelty vaudeville intermission between the great conflicts of our time-M Steyn)
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To: Boston Blackie

Not a word about Durbin on DU. They are really ginned up about the important soundingly named Downing Street Memo.


14 posted on 06/16/2005 11:07:19 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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Yeah, I'm not surprised and this coming from the party that gave us Pearl Harbor and the Tonkin Gulf incident.


15 posted on 06/16/2005 11:12:43 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

Turban Durbin is the new Al Jazeera poster jihadi.


16 posted on 06/16/2005 11:13:44 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: bray

The purpose of the communist-coordinated effort to compare Guantanamo to the Gulag is not just to inflate the spurious charges of Koran-bashing and air conditioning-adjustment to the level of genocide. It is intended to simultaneously re-cast the Soviet concentration and death camps as simple places of confinement for genuine enemies, as opposed to the extermination centers for the innocent that they in fact were. In this way, the communists achieve two of their most cherished objectives at one stroke - degrade the United States and rehabilitate Stalin's USSR. And by communists, I mean the "progressive" mass media, academia, Democratic Party elite in this country.


17 posted on 06/16/2005 11:20:36 AM PDT by Argus (Omnia taglinea in tres partes divisa est.)
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To: bray
Among my most vivid memories of my tour in Germany were my visits to Dachau and Flossenburg concentration camps.

Flossenburg was spruced up with beautiful landscaping, but the main features of the camp were maintained: the guard towers, many of the buildings, and most notably the center square of the camp, where large red letters were displayed that said:

PRISONERS WERE SHOT HERE

How many prisoners have actually died at Gitmo?

Hell, I got more abuse as a "butter bar" at Jump School than these terrorists will ever get! Ask anybody about Jump School, and they'll all remember the "Nutcracker".

These attempts to compare Gitmo with gulags, concentration camps, etc. are demonstrative of intellectual laziness and are utterly contemptible. Sen. Durbin should be motivated to resign as an elected official.

18 posted on 06/16/2005 11:33:06 AM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: bray
Have been stewing over all this all day; so when I got your ping was prepared.

From Powerline blog: "The AP reports: "Sen. Durbin stands by Guantanomo remarks." Al-Jazeera reports: "US senator stands by Nazi remark." Today Senator Durbin is probably al-Qaeda's most popular senator, although he must have some serious competition in that department (click here).

You know, will come a time when lip service is not enough? FR is great for discovery, comment and lip service. What does it take for people to become so outraged, that they say enough is enough? When do people take to the streets in MASS protest against these sicko politicians who care more about some "terrorist" sitting in a "comfortable" jail cell and less about the safety of you and me? Just gets frustrating!!!

Where is a Cinderella Leader? A leader, not some pampered politician who owes some interest group; that has suffered past having to use a dinner fork to eat his salad in a Yale or Harvard dining hall. A leader who UNDERSTANDS what it is to battle for care and safety of one's family and of one's own country.

Damn discouraging it is! Damn politicians will be the death of America's dedicated men and women who fight for the freedoms we cherish. :(

19 posted on 06/16/2005 11:49:10 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
Damn politicians will be the death of America's dedicated men and women who fight for the freedoms we cherish

To Self: Hell they will be the death of all of us..see: Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted Wednesday to remove the Patriot Act provision that "allows federal agents to examine people's book-reading habits at public libraries and bookstores as part of terrorism investigations."

The vote was 238-187 – 38 Republicans joined 199 Democrats and amendment sponsor Bernie Sanders, (I) of Vermont, in supporting the repeal.

Hear Ye!..hear ye!.. all Terrorists.. head to your local library and feel safe from investigation; for before a "public" not "secret" hearing can be determined on the the value of an investigation on said "you the considered person of suspicion",..you will have committed your act and fled the country.

Sync to: "Another brick in the wall."

20 posted on 06/16/2005 12:05:30 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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