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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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KEYWORDS: arrestedpaulvds; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: txrangerette

...Stay tuned...

;)


161 posted on 06/23/2005 1:01:22 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: Howlin

I can't recall the exact quote. I'll ping you if I think of it.


163 posted on 06/23/2005 1:03:21 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs
I don't know if Greta's interview has anything to do with the arrest. Greta thinks so, therefore I tend to believe Greta at this point.

There could have been something about that/those phone calls Paulus was taken while Greta was there in the home. Something about the phone calls and the presence of Greta possibly could have put Paulus in the very uncomfortable, sweaty, handwringing mood.

164 posted on 06/23/2005 1:03:32 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

He could be overheard talking on the phone. It wouldn't take much to decipher that conversation, if the lines are tapped.


165 posted on 06/23/2005 1:06:16 PM PDT by maggief
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To: the Deejay
Greta has beaten all other reporters hands down on this one.

Agree. Talking to the van der Sloots in their own home? Quite a score. I also like her interaction with Mrs. Twitty. Her appreciation and admiration for the woman is visible, but not overly emotional like Geraldo.

166 posted on 06/23/2005 1:08:51 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: johnb838

I don't know what my fool son thought was going to happen over the weekend when he couldn't produce that report card. It was a Friday. He must have thought he'd bought himself at least two days' grace. I know he didn't think he'd get this whopper past his dad, though. (He was terrified of his dad, a fact I didn't discover for years. I thought he adored his dad. Okay, I admit to having been stupid as well as naive!) No corporal punishment from his dad. Just a Leo who didn't know how to be a dad because his own had been somewhat cold and distant. Plus he didn't talk politics with his son, and that was a lost opportunity. It's such a good way to introduce your kids to the real world and how things work. Despite my ultimate failure in that regard!


167 posted on 06/23/2005 1:09:01 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Lizarde

oh my goodness. what could have possibly happened to the poor kid with that many witnesses. guilty witnesses i wonder?


168 posted on 06/23/2005 1:13:27 PM PDT by applpie
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To: johnb838

Isn't that the truth! Clearly, the 'boys' here didn't watch enough Law and Order or NYPDBlue! And despite Deepak's working at that internet cafe and emailing all the time, he didn't have enough knowledge about what can be retrieved after deletion, or else they panicked and didn't know what else to do but frantically use a cell phone or email.


169 posted on 06/23/2005 1:13:51 PM PDT by hershey
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To: TexKat

I wonder if that rumor of seeing Daddy VDS out at McD's at 3am may be true.


170 posted on 06/23/2005 1:18:20 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: brigette

Could be. I think he helped orchestrate the cover-up.


171 posted on 06/23/2005 1:19:59 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: maggiefluffs

Man, I feel truly sorry for Mrs. VDS. Her own family hasn't been totally truthful to her, it seems.


172 posted on 06/23/2005 1:27:49 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: brigette

Wow. I am at work and so glad I logged on, even if i get busted! Daddy Van arrested. Excellent. Maybe they can make some headway now.


173 posted on 06/23/2005 1:28:34 PM PDT by HoHoeHeaux
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To: CitizenM

Agree with your post, and that bit about Paulus going back to the beach, possibly, and finding N not there. But. He is a judge and presumably, no dope, and I would think if this innocent scenario were true, once it was public that N was missing, Paulus would have immediately marched Joran and the brothers to the LE and told all he knew. Girl, drunk, left at beach by my son, foolishly. I went back to check, but she was gone. I assumed she'd returned to her hotel. Period. That would have been embarrassing, but they'd have all been off the hook.


174 posted on 06/23/2005 1:28:56 PM PDT by hershey
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To: CheneyChick

I hope Mrs. VDS has a support system in Holland. I believe she'll have to take her other sons and retreat back there when this is all over.


175 posted on 06/23/2005 1:29:45 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Palladin

The sight of Beth and Greta marching around, knocking on doors, getting in where nobody else could is truly astonishing. It is Wonderwoman and her little sister. I was surprised when I saw how small Greta is. She's a human dynamo.


176 posted on 06/23/2005 1:32:16 PM PDT by hershey
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To: txrangerette

Interesting. I wondered how Greta persuaded them to allow a filmed interview. When they first talked at the gate, he said, No Camera, and she said, Fine.


177 posted on 06/23/2005 1:34:26 PM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
From CNN:

Satish Kalpoe to mom: 'We didn't do anything' The mother of the Kalpoes said Thursday that one son had admitted he and his brother made up a cover story to protect Joran Van Der Sloot.

Nadira Ramirez told CNN she was permitted to visit son Satish Kalpoe at Aruba's prison within the past week.

Initially, Ramirez said, her sons had told her and police they dropped Holloway off at the Holiday Inn, where she was staying. But Satish Kalpoe told his mother later that was a lie aimed at protecting Van Der Sloot.

In fact, he told his mother, he and his brother had dropped Holloway and Van Der Sloot off at the beach by the Marriott hotel, about a mile from the Holiday Inn.

Ramirez tearfully said her son insisted he and his brother were innocent.

"'We didn't do anything. We will be out from here. Don't cry,'" she said he told her.

"I asked him, 'Satish, are you sure you guys didn't do anything?'" she said.

She said he responded: "'No, mama. We gave that girl and Joran a lift.'

"They don't even know Natalee. They said she didn't even introduce herself to them," she said. "They don't know anything else about that."

Ramirez's account echoes comments made by one of two security guards who were arrested June 5 in connection with the case and released June 13.

The guards, Abraham Jones, 28, and Mickey John, 30, were never charged.

After his release, John said Deepak Kalpoe confided to him while they were in jail together that he had lied to police.

178 posted on 06/23/2005 1:37:32 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Mrs. VDSloot is a tragic figure. What happened to this family, is like a cyclone. Everything smashed for both families, and how to pick up the pieces? This is the stuff of divorce, too. Okay, films and books and endless talk shows. Pray for Natalee. Somehow she almost gets 'lost' in all this.


179 posted on 06/23/2005 1:40:33 PM PDT by hershey
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To: TexKat

AND! Thanks Tex Kat for the ping!


180 posted on 06/23/2005 1:40:47 PM PDT by HoHoeHeaux
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