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Tonight we are no longer a free country (vanity)
6/23/05 | Self

Posted on 06/23/2005 8:06:55 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

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321 posted on 06/24/2005 10:16:38 AM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1429877/posts?page=1

My thoughts on this.


322 posted on 06/24/2005 10:18:46 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/canadahealthcare.htm)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All
This PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVENCES has only 650 signatures at this time - WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT NOW!

To:  U. S. Congress

PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVENCES

We the People of the United States, do hereby demand that our duly elected representatives in both houses of Congress, initiate impeachment proceedings against the following Supreme Court Justices:

John Paul Stevens
Anthony Kennedy
David H. Souter
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Stephen G. Breyer

We, the undersigned, consider the Supreme Court ruling in Kelo v. New London, 04-108, rendered June 23, 2005, not only unacceptable, but to be in criminal violation of the Justice's oaths to uphold, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Be advised that We the People regard elected officials to be our public servants. Failure to take action against the Justices specified shall be considered support for the decision rendered in the aforementioned case, and will result in our resolve to ensure your defeat in the next election.

Being from myriad political and ideological spectra, we are united in our belief that our right to own property is inalienable.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

PLEASE sign the petition - we need to let Congress know of our outrage.

323 posted on 06/24/2005 10:25:13 AM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: oceanview
"this is about seizure and eminent domain."

Yes, but the enemies of Freedom will spin and spin their idiocy, and their comrades in the media will help them, we can't stop that, and we should not be cowered by it.

We should stand tall for what we believe in.

I have some questions for you.

The SC stood tall for Communism. Should We the People be cowardly and accept our slavery, as decided by the court ?


Do you think the SC decides what rights we have ?

Do you think the Second Amendment makes American Individuals the Ultimate power in America ?

Who owns my property ?
324 posted on 06/24/2005 10:29:26 AM PDT by Tobor
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To: TheSpottedOwl
The Supremes just screwed over every American in this country, regardless of political belief. This isn't a waste of time, imo. This decision needs to be overturned and fast.

Oh, I don't consider it a waste of time to overturn this, I just lament that some of my time now MUST be spent on this ... I'd rather this never had occurred, as I have many things I'd rather be doing ... but there are just some things that MUST be done, no matter if I like them or not.

So, I probably should have clarified that it is definitely not a waste of time to fight this ... it's something that should be fought. I meant more in a mathematical sense where my rights should be at point A, but have suddenlty been moved to point B, and I need to spen d time in the effort to get them back to point A ... so time will be spent getting me right back to where I should have been in the first place.

I definitely agree with you: something needs to be done about this, and quickly, before more damage is done.

325 posted on 06/24/2005 11:01:16 AM PDT by bobhoskins
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To: Smokin' Joe
I AM TALKING ABOUT LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
326 posted on 06/24/2005 11:37:12 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Blood of Tyrants

People should have the ability to do what they want with property. The individual knows what is best for themselves, and a truly free society - which an emphasis on individual freedom - is the prosperous lead into the 21st century. This is how America won the cold war. Individuals are the heart of this republic, and their personal search for wealth, happiness, and the joys of freedom are really what drives the economy of this outstanding nation. This judgement by SCOTUS is wrong, and unconstitutional. Socialism has been proven wrong in economics - to see this look at The Soviet Union or any other country that has heavily dabbled in socialism and its versions. Emminent domain has been used before - and it has helped build great developments like railroads and highways. This judgement by the Supreme Court is flawed and outrageous. They have stepped over the line of Public Good in the 5th Amendment to include economy as a public good the government can define. This country needs tax revenues. Without pulling our troops out of most foreign regions - we can not support our account deficit without relying on buying debt from foreign creditors - including communist countries in which political relations are uncertain. The people need to feel trust from their government in order to reciprocate this trust in these uncertain times. And we need to work together and trust each other, to be united, to work together to help one another and to keep our land safe. The supreme court has placed this trust, sadly, in the hands of the elected officials and out of the hands of the citizens.
Brian Reed


327 posted on 06/24/2005 2:24:47 PM PDT by president2016
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To: verity; Blood of Tyrants
Agreed. Next we'll be hearing laments about the exercise of free will.
328 posted on 06/24/2005 2:28:41 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Smokin' Joe
And thus it has so ever been the situation on Main Street, ever since the Galactic Imperial Army landed and disenfranchised humanity and started ruling by martial decree, eh? (sheesh)
329 posted on 06/24/2005 2:34:16 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad

They called the men who opposed King George melodramatic, too.


330 posted on 06/24/2005 3:38:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Cultural Jihad; Blood of Tyrants; Travis McGee
Sounds like your head's outlook upon the whole world is one big "Fear Factor." Liberty and self-governance are only scary things when in the hands of untrustworthy people.

Corporations and individuals seizing private property isn't "Liberty". It's "felony robbery", and "felony civil Rights violations".

"Self-governance" isn't when a bunch of unelected judges not only go against the document that is the sole source of their authority, but against 90% of the people. That is tyranny.

As for "untrustworthy" people, if you think our government is "trustworthy", then I have a bridge to sell you.

Just come out say that you don't have a problem with robbery of the weak by the powerful. At least that would be more honest than claiming tyranny is liberty.

331 posted on 06/24/2005 5:58:15 PM PDT by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mulder
You might as well be wailing against 'free will,' too.
332 posted on 06/24/2005 6:23:18 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Mulder

Don't bother debating statist jackboot lickers.


333 posted on 06/24/2005 8:06:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: RebelTex; Blood of Tyrants

I signed it and then 2 minutes later my wife signed it. I was 1702 she was 1709 lets keep this thing going! We need a million at least on this folks. Spread the Word lets get this going. Let's show them that We The People are not dead! We will defend OUR Country.

Ravenstar


334 posted on 06/24/2005 8:57:34 PM PDT by Ravenstar (Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land)
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To: Cultural Jihad

Unfamilliar with 'Bubba' politics? Where do you think Clinton learned the ropes? He just took local corruption to a global level.


335 posted on 06/25/2005 1:16:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: traviskicks

Well put!


336 posted on 06/25/2005 1:25:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: DB

#8 Good point! However I've been watching the loss of a free press.


337 posted on 06/25/2005 1:29:54 AM PDT by Bogie
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To: Age of Reason
Okay, Legal Immigrants.

If they didn't need to make room to house and supply all those immigrants, they wouldn't need to take your property for any reason.

I don't think this is being done to house 'first time home buyers', or legal immigrants, unless you count everyone who came over sfter the first couple of boats. It is not a question of space, but one of greed.

Population growth from immigration is what has been taking your freedoms away.

So long as we flood the country with people, so long will even I agree that our rights and freedoms must be renegotiated down.

Correct.

The threat of high rates of immigration of any stripe (legal or otherwise) without assimilation (which is what the last decade or two of hyphenation has effectively prevented) is this: When people who come here from elsewhere, who do not understand the language, attempt to learn about America (should they even make the attemt) they will be spoon fed tripe in the guise of history by teachers in school systems who seldom understand the founders or the founding documents any better than their students.

This is no accident. The socialist/Marxist presence in America has been subverting the concept of liberty for a long time (they started before the '60s, but that is when I started really noticing).

The more people who do not understand either the American Republic, the basic concepts thereof, and the freedoms which appertain, the more useful idiots there are who will vote for socialists based on what they believe will land on their plate as a result, regardless of the unconstitutionality or immorality of the actions of their elected officials.

To someone whose government decreed every aspect of their lives, the ability to buy what they can afford is 'freedom'. The broader concept is lost on them.

If these types of rulings continue (as if this one is not enough!), the broader concept of freedom may be lost completely.

This is just one arena in the culture war that goes beyond just culture, but toward economic destabilization. There is much, much more: (see post 29) another thread.

While my intent was to describe the problem simply from the incredible opportunities which will be presented for local graft and corruption, you have touched on a broader issue we should all pay attention to.

338 posted on 06/25/2005 1:52:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: thoughtomator
What if the government decides it would generate more revenue if you were dead and it took your stuff?

You mean like when people die before retirement age (not paying out social security benefits) and the fedgov takes half of everything you have with death taxes?

You think the increase in heart disease and cancer are just an element of an improved standard of living? (hmmm... trans fats...)

339 posted on 06/25/2005 2:59:20 AM PDT by sten
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To: oceanview

"..those who oppose this ruling want all zoning laws repealed". Its a lie, but they will use that spin to their advantage, don't help them..."

No worries. That's a pretty lame point compared to some rich guy asking his gov'ment bud to eminent domain a woman's house because she won't sleep with him.


340 posted on 06/25/2005 3:58:20 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<< Ad Campaign for Durbin the Turbin in profile)
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