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Allstate fires manager for Christian beliefs concerning homosexuality
AFA and World Net Daily ^ | June 28, 2005 | American Family Association

Posted on 06/28/2005 11:42:01 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER

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To: Blood of Tyrants

That's exactly what he's done. He has a suit pending against Allstate under Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which prohibits religious discrimination. Allstate is in for a very rough ride on this one.


61 posted on 06/28/2005 12:26:28 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Spiff
You never know. However, Allstate tried to deny him unemployment compensation, but Barber stressed to the unemployment office that he did not intend for the affiliation to be included in the bio. Allstate argued to the agency that Barber should not be given unemployment, but upon investigation, the agency agreed with Barber's contention and ruled he was entitled to the money.

Sounds to me like a finding of fact that the inclusion of his specific employment info was done without his consent.

62 posted on 06/28/2005 12:26:48 PM PDT by TheBigB (Why yes, I -do- rock! Thanks for noticing!)
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To: dmz

Their stance is very radical and makes one think very hard about society today.

Here is an excerpt... Keep in mind that he was fired for this...

Many homosexuals choose not to recognize that the majority of their detractors really do care for them as individuals, hold no animus toward them, and would not presume to dictate what sexual anomalies they entertain behind closed doors, whether self-destructive or not. However, when militant homosexual activists attempt to quell all criticism of their behavior, force society to accept that behavior, and further attempt to alter the fabric of society by changing it to correspond with their own morally relative, androgynous notion of marriage, then those same activists shouldn’t be at all surprised to discover that they’ve angered those who value the sanctity of marriage – they shouldn’t be taken aback to find that they have one hell of fight on their hands – to expect anything less would be queer indeed.

Sounds fairly "straight" forward to me....

Look at his credentials to. He will work again soon.



J. Matt Barber is a non-practicing attorney, an undefeated heavyweight professional boxer (Matt "Bam Bam" Barber), and a professional jazz drummer in the Chicago Land (IL) area. In addition to his Law Degree, Barber holds a Master of Arts in Public Policy.
Matt Works for Allstate Insurance Company as a Territorial Senior Manager in Allstate's Law and Regulation Corporate Security (Internal Fraud Investigations) Department.


63 posted on 06/28/2005 12:27:17 PM PDT by johnk (faithful with little....)
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To: ICE-FLYER

I would seek confirmation on the facts on this before someone starts a boycott.
If it's as written then it is deplorable


64 posted on 06/28/2005 12:27:18 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: ICE-FLYER

Email written, and I let them know they could pull me out of the pool of potential Allstate customers. (And I was looking for a new insurance company, too!)


65 posted on 06/28/2005 12:27:54 PM PDT by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; CzarNicky; gdani; Melas
He has filed suit. The Christian Law Association has provided assistance, and David Gibbs III, who represented Terri Schiavo's family, is representing him.

The initial status hearing is set for July 5th.

I personally think he has a strong case, and hope he wins it.

66 posted on 06/28/2005 12:28:02 PM PDT by Antonello
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To: HairOfTheDog
Having a political life, including writing editorials and opinion pieces for public consumption, might be looked down on by workplaces that don't want to have to deal with your political life. Everyone should be aware of this risk.

In most places, what Allstate did here was perfectly legal.

67 posted on 06/28/2005 12:28:44 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: gdani

Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act prohibits religions discrimination by private employers and provides extensive remedies to aggrieved employees.


68 posted on 06/28/2005 12:29:06 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: wideawake
It is discrimination in hiring on the basis of religion, which is illegal in all 50 states.

They fired him for what he wrote, not for his religious beliefs.

69 posted on 06/28/2005 12:29:40 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Allstate is a mistake and will be in no state to insure me or mine.

Allstate can keep their good hands to themselves.


70 posted on 06/28/2005 12:29:53 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Dr.Hilarious

"And my larger point is that I think private employers SHOULD be allowed to hire or fire employees for any reason, not that this is the law."

So, an employer should be able to fire an employee one day before the employee's retirement benefits/401K benefits vesting kicks in?

Why in the world would you hold to such a view?


71 posted on 06/28/2005 12:31:54 PM PDT by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: dmz
I'm having trouble that MND invented all of that specificity without Matt having provided it.

He probably did provide it but it's entirely possible that HE didn't include it. I imagine that MND would ask his occupation etc to verify he's not a nut. I still don't see how the guy can be descriminated against for a personal view. Special interest groups want to silence all but their voices.

72 posted on 06/28/2005 12:31:56 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Modernman
They fired him for what he wrote, not for his religious beliefs.

His writing was an expression of his religious beliefs.

Unless he provably attempted to portray his views as representative of Allstate, they fired him for his religion.

73 posted on 06/28/2005 12:32:30 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: libstripper
Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act prohibits religions discrimination by private employers and provides extensive remedies to aggrieved employees

Yeah - I'm familiar with Title VII. And I don't think it provides as much protection as you think it does.

In 2 minutes I can come up with 10 ways an employer can fire/discipline an employee for what some might consider practing their religious beliefs & Title VII would offer no protection.

74 posted on 06/28/2005 12:34:06 PM PDT by gdani
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To: hispanichoosier

Bump for e-mail from home (personal computer)


75 posted on 06/28/2005 12:34:24 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Your HONOR STUDENT is merely a pawn in my pugs plot for world domination. :o))
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To: gdani

Title VII also covers employment conditions and discharge. It prohibits religions discrimination in employment. Indeed it, or current interpretations of it, currently require employers to make reasonable accommodations for employees' religious practices.

As noted by an earlier poster, the homosexual organization that got this guy fired could also be in real trouble since they induced Allstate to fire him illegally due to his protected, off premises, religious activities.


76 posted on 06/28/2005 12:34:48 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Nathan Zachary
Still, it's a violation of his free speech rights...

No, it's not. The First Amendment does not cover the actions of non-governmental actors or entities.

77 posted on 06/28/2005 12:36:01 PM PDT by gdani
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To: DJ MacWoW

At my company, there are very strict policies regarding comments to the media in which the organization's name is used. I'd be very surprised if Allstate doesn't have the same kind of policy.

I submit he was fired for violating a policy.



78 posted on 06/28/2005 12:36:59 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Dr.Hilarious
Employers can fire people for whatever reason they like, more or less (or they SHOULD be allowed).

You mean like refusing to give your boss a blow job ?

79 posted on 06/28/2005 12:38:02 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: dmz

That may be so. But I just read upthread that the guy is also a lawyer. :)


80 posted on 06/28/2005 12:38:18 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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