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DRUDGE: Lawyer Says Rove Talked to Reporter, Did Not Leak Name
Drudge Report ^ | July 2, 2005 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 07/02/2005 6:27:14 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Karl Rove, President Bush's chief political adviser, spoke with TIME mag's Matthew Cooper during a critical week in July 2003 when Cooper was reporting on a public critic of the Bush administration who was also the husband of a CIA operative.

But Rove did not leak the name of the CIA op Plame, Rove's lawyer said again Saturday night.

Robert Luskin said Rove never identified Plame to Cooper in those conversations.

"Karl did nothing wrong. Karl didn't disclose Valerie Plame's identity to Mr. Cooper or anybody else,'' Luskin said to the WASHINGTON POST. Luskin said the question remains unanswered: ``Who outed this woman? ... It wasn't Karl.''

NBC's Lawrence O'Donnell claimed this weekend, 'Rove Blew CIA Agent's Cover'.

"Emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source. I have known this for months," O'Donnell said.

Developing...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeak; karlrove; plame; rove; wariniraq; wilson
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1 posted on 07/02/2005 6:27:16 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Odonnel is such a kook; wouldn't believe a word he said. I'm looking forward to Novak's column on this story when all is said and done with the Grand Jury. If the leaker had been Rove, it would have been released months ago, prior to the election. Spikey Mikey's story in Newsweak is just more wasted black ink on a white page. He is useless.


2 posted on 07/02/2005 6:30:48 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: West Coast Conservative
this is going to send the DUmmies jumping over the cliff life a herd of Lemmings
3 posted on 07/02/2005 6:32:46 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: West Coast Conservative
this is going to send the DUmmies jumping over the cliff life a herd of Lemmings
4 posted on 07/02/2005 6:33:06 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Ok, I'll admit it. They talked to me and I told them. It wasn't Rove.


5 posted on 07/02/2005 6:33:56 PM PDT by barker (If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some iinfluence, try ordering somebody else's dog around.)
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To: West Coast Conservative; doug from upland; Buckhead; IncPen; Howlin; CHARLITE; ...

I am inclined to believe that the DEMS are using another BOGUS document to target one of their most hated opponents.

We need to be ALL OVER THIS sniffing for what stinks.

Rathergate and Downing Street Memogate were just warm-ups for the new Marxists-at-Kinkos era. The good news is, WE are warmed up.

DO NOT LET THE LIBS CRUCIFY ROVE over something THEY probably created.

I've come to distust ANYBODY with a D after his name, except for Zell Miller.


6 posted on 07/02/2005 6:40:55 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Lawyer Says Rove Talked to Reporter, Did Not Leak Name

We need another "Michael Jackson" debacle to give fodder to the media as to prevent this asinine coverage on the White House which will gain nothing.

7 posted on 07/02/2005 6:41:06 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Laverne
I'd like to see O'Donnell get sued for libel by Rove's attorney. This is a deliberate fabrication meant to defame a great man's reputation and character. It will make lying scum like him think twice before attacking this administration with baseless allegations in the future.
8 posted on 07/02/2005 6:43:22 PM PDT by Now_is_The_Time (never retreat, never compromise, never surrender)
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To: West Coast Conservative

My theory is that Cooper, Mandy Grunwald's husband and a rabid Democrat, may have tried to illegally contend that Karl Rove was his source and does not want to perjure himself before the Grand Jury. This makes sense then that the MSNBC O'Donnell operative would claim it was Rove in Cooper's notes, but Cooper is trying to avoid testifying since they have the notes. The notes could be a lie and attempt to frame Rove. If the SP knows this, Cooper (and Miller) are in a world of hurt ...


9 posted on 07/02/2005 6:48:16 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981

Didn't O'Donnell have a "melt-down" in 2004 when he was on a show with one of the SBVFT..he went postal, IIRC..


10 posted on 07/02/2005 6:49:59 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: West Coast Conservative
OK, I admit it; I leaked the name. Me and half of DC knew she worked as a file clerk for the CIA, but I leaked it. Take me away. What a joke.

Pray for W and Our Troops

11 posted on 07/02/2005 6:50:09 PM PDT by bray (Did you buy a Soldier Lunch Today??)
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To: ken5050
Didn't O'Donnell have a "melt-down" in 2004

Somebody posted a link to the video of that meltdown on an earlier thread today. It is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen. I remember, it was Indy Pendance. Must see.

12 posted on 07/02/2005 6:52:38 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: ken5050

Yes he did---he was "debating" John O'Neill---and kept calling him a "creepy liar" and other insults..

I don't believe I have seen him on MSNBC since then...

BUT, if he knew that Rove did this, he wouldn't have kept quiet at all...he is a loud mouthed lib, that would love nothing more than to be the one to "get" Rove...


14 posted on 07/02/2005 6:54:30 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Laverne

"If the leaker had been Rove, it would have been released months ago, prior to the election."


EXACTLY!! It would have been a bombshell .. and because it wasn't "leaked" - I'd say it wasn't true .. it's just another WISH by the left - a wish they will allow the kooks to spew as red meet for their kooky left.


15 posted on 07/02/2005 6:54:41 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Blurblogger

I hear you and I agree with everything you said! The RATS HATE Karl Rove even more than they hate Bush and would cook up anything they could to destroy his reputation. And as far as Lawrence O'donnell goes, I'm glad it was him that dreamed up this lie. He's a vicious person! I wouldn't be surprised at anything he did!


16 posted on 07/02/2005 6:54:56 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: ken5050
Didn't O'Donnell have a "melt-down" in 2004 when he was on a show with one of the SBVFT..he went postal, IIRC..

He is a Dem operative. Nonetheless, they were trying to pin this on Rove from the start so it is possible it was a small conspiracy to do so and all the Dem ops don't know any better. Cooper's and Miller's notes may very well indicate Rove but the SP may have evidence it was not Rove, hence this conundrum where Cooper and Miller are terrified to testify in front of the Grand Jury because they used their notes and any statements to investigators to try to frame Rove ...

17 posted on 07/02/2005 6:55:38 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: West Coast Conservative

It's exactly what I said first thing today when I heard the revival of this charge.


18 posted on 07/02/2005 6:58:00 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: West Coast Conservative
The liberals have no shame, guess the Gitmo story stopped giving, so here we go again on Mr. Rove.
20 posted on 07/02/2005 6:58:23 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Blurblogger

Calm down. At this time there is no evidence of any "bogus" (I'll refrain from the all caps) documents.

Rove was in fact in Cooper's notes as I correctly said this morning because he did talk to him. We all knew this months and months, if not years, ago.

It was twisted (as it was before) to hint darkly that Rove was "the leak", which he wasn't.


21 posted on 07/02/2005 7:00:41 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Now_is_The_Time
I'd like to see O'Donnell get sued for libel by Rove's attorney.

Joe Wilson himself pointed to Rove at the start and even said he'd like to see Rove "frog-marched" off to jail.

I doubt we'll see any libel suits, but it was as false a charge then as this pathetic regurgitation was.

22 posted on 07/02/2005 7:02:05 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: CyberAnt

"If the leaker had been Rove, it would have been released months ago, prior to the election."


EXACTLY!! It would have been a bombshell .. and because it wasn't "leaked" - I'd say it wasn't true .. it's just another WISH by the left - a wish they will allow the kooks to spew as red meet for their kooky left."

Another case of their repeating a lie enough to make it sound true.

If Rove didn't do it, documents and testimony prove he didn't do it, and Rove knows he didn't do it (obviously), he should, at minimum, publicly challenge "screwloose" McDonnell to give proof or an apology.

Then sue his ass anyway.....


23 posted on 07/02/2005 7:02:36 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (Liberals are enablers for terrorists and other anti-American groups.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I'm a little surprised Rove is debunking this story before Newsweak commits itself to another flagrant lie.


24 posted on 07/02/2005 7:05:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Karl Rove=Texan
Texan=Texas
Texas=Cowboys
Cowboys=Cows
Cows=Calf
Calf=Calf Rope
Calf Rope=Lawrence O'Donnell
Don't Mess with Texas!


25 posted on 07/02/2005 7:05:23 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez wasn't cool.)
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To: creativebottle00

It has not been shown the Downing Street Memo was a fake. The poster is probably referring to the suspicious behavior of the reporter claiming he destroyed the original.

I'll add that the Downing Street Memo did not contain any bombshell information anyway despite the hysterical cries from the left about it.


26 posted on 07/02/2005 7:05:23 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: creativebottle00

Depends. Guilty of what?

Novak had two sources.

Plame was more than likely not undercover.

What's your theory of what was done wrong?

It's dinner time here but I can't wait to read what you think!


27 posted on 07/02/2005 7:06:58 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

creativebottle00
Since Jul 3, 2005

Dummie signed up tomorrow..LOL


28 posted on 07/02/2005 7:08:43 PM PDT by hipaatwo (When you're in trouble you want all your friends around you...preferably armed!)
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To: Now_is_The_Time
I'd like to see O'Donnell get sued for libel by Rove's attorney.

Suing O'Donnell would not help - it would only make him look legit. Better to point at him and laugh.

Years from now, some trivia show will be explaining the difference between O'Donnell, Baghdad Bob, and Joe Isuzu. If you're old then and can remember which one is which, that will be a good day.

29 posted on 07/02/2005 7:09:08 PM PDT by Bernard (It seems the only guilty people in this country are the soldiers who guard terrorists at Gitmo.)
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To: barker

Hiya barker, long time no see

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


30 posted on 07/02/2005 7:14:46 PM PDT by alfa6 (Rest, ve don't need no stinkin Rest)
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To: cyncooper
"It has not been shown the Downing Street Memo was a fake."

The Downing Street Memo hasn't been *shown* at all, save for an image on the Internet that shows an official seal on a supposedly retyped copy.

There's a reason the Downing Street Memo went away so quickly. It simply can't be verified to be authentic at all.

31 posted on 07/02/2005 7:19:55 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: hipaatwo

(I noticed that right off the bat, but thanks anyway)

:)


32 posted on 07/02/2005 7:19:58 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: af_vet_1981

You are EXACTLY correct.
Miller must testify. The "turned over notes" are a red herring - - completely useless.


33 posted on 07/02/2005 7:20:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Reactionary

Authentic or not, it was a big nothing bore.

That was my point.


34 posted on 07/02/2005 7:21:15 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: SpinyNorman

Rove has already signed a waiver waving any confidentiality guarantees from reporters he's talked to. Apparently, O'Donnell truly is an idiot. It looks like someone at Time got a look at the notes and saw Rove's name- and then he leaked it to O'Donnell. In his incredible idiocy, O'Donnell put 2 and 2 together and got 5- that Rove was the originator of the leak simply because he talked to Cooper. If anyone's going down, it's O'Donnell. And it says a lot about how confidential a reporter's notes are at Time.


35 posted on 07/02/2005 7:22:01 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: West Coast Conservative

the problem is - the journalists will lie, and they will use third hand emails and notes to "prove" this. Cooper meets with Rove, Rove tells him nothing, but Cooper can then easily send an email to some third party that says "Rove told me this". absent an audio tape, there really is no proof, but the MSM will spin it differently.


36 posted on 07/02/2005 7:22:54 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: ken5050
I linked the video here.
38 posted on 07/02/2005 7:28:53 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Bahbah

Thanks, I just linked it on this thread. Check the previous post.


39 posted on 07/02/2005 7:29:33 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: West Coast Conservative

Well of course Rove did it -- or at least, it's so utterly convenient for the media to make us think so, so that they can maybe hound Rove out before the USSC vacancy battles start up in earnest.


40 posted on 07/02/2005 7:30:55 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: rface

D'ya think? Oh, for some video of that. ;)


41 posted on 07/02/2005 7:32:01 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Lancey Howard
You are EXACTLY correct. Miller must testify. The "turned over notes" are a red herring - - completely useless.

It is the only answer that makes sense: Cooper and Miller were found by the SP to be trying to frame Karl Rove. Now they want to avoid perjury to the Grand Jury after lying to investigators ...

42 posted on 07/02/2005 7:37:06 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Bernard

I'd like to see O'Donnell get sued for libel by Rove's attorney.

I'd like to end up in a dark alley with O'Donnell. The chicken s##%t would be in a world of hurt.


43 posted on 07/02/2005 7:37:23 PM PDT by Neville72
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To: af_vet_1981

I think the plan was (and maybe still is) to spread the gossip that it was Rove, knowing full well the grand jury proceedings are secret until time to indict (or not). I think they figure they can spread this caca del toro until that time, and by then Rove is (they hope) slimed. Hope it backfires on 'em.


44 posted on 07/02/2005 7:37:34 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"Emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source. I have known this for months," O'Donnell said.

huh ? How does Losin-it Larry O'Donnell get told the name of a source ?
45 posted on 07/02/2005 7:39:01 PM PDT by stylin19a (Suicide bomber ??? "I came to the wrong jihad")
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To: cyncooper

We never see lawsuits on this sort of thing--delicious as they might be--and probably they're ultimately counterproductive. But I confess, I'd like to see Wilson and O'Donnell "frogmarched" into court...


46 posted on 07/02/2005 7:39:36 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Omigosh, seeing it again reminded me of what a nut O'Donnell has always been. Why does McLaughlin bother with him?


47 posted on 07/02/2005 7:39:46 PM PDT by secret garden (Spurs are the Champions!)
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To: MizSterious
I think the plan was (and maybe still is) to spread the gossip that it was Rove, knowing full well the grand jury proceedings are secret until time to indict (or not). I think they figure they can spread this caca del toro until that time, and by then Rove is (they hope) slimed. Hope it backfires on 'em.

Remember when this story broke and Wilson said Rove would be frog marched out of the WH ?

I sense a conspiracy to implicate Karl Rove, only the SC discovered the truth, that it was not Karl, and the conspiracy, that some MSM reporters, Wilson, or whoever conspired and lied to investigators and the Grand Jury. Cooper and Miller know this, are trapped, and will not testify before the Grand Jury. They would rather go to jail for 4 months than commit perjury.

They are terrified that the judge will put them in DC Jail though, although the Dem operatives will put out the word to keep them save there ...

48 posted on 07/02/2005 7:42:07 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Indy Pendance

Thank you, Indy. I've been in and out all day with family events.


49 posted on 07/02/2005 7:45:03 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: Now_is_The_Time

Re--Now_is_The_Time: I'd like to see O'Donnell get sued for libel by Rove's attorney. This is a deliberate fabrication meant to defame a great man's reputation and character. It will make lying scum like him think twice before attacking this administration with baseless allegations in the future..
**

Why would Rove sue O'Donnell for libel? What did he fabricate? Here is what O'Donnell said:
"And I know I'm going to get pulled into the grand jury for saying this but the source of...for Matt Cooper was Karl Rove, and that will be revealed in this document dump that Time magazine's going to do with the grand jury."
and
"I revealed in yesterday's taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time magazine's e-mails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source. I have known this for months but didn't want to say it at a time that would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury."

And now we discover that Mr. Luskin, Rove's lawyer, concedes that Rove is a source in Cooper's emails, but not in the original leak. So, O'Donnell just stated a fact. Where is the libel?


50 posted on 07/02/2005 7:45:05 PM PDT by RDangerfield
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