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Far Left Media & MoveOn/George Soros Target Karl Rove, While Joe Wilson's Lies Go Unchallenged
Pipeline News ^ | 12 July 2005

Posted on 07/12/2005 10:50:10 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln

July 12, 2005 - Washington, DC - RNC Statement - PipeLineNews -``It's disappointing that once again, so many Democrat leaders are taking their political cues from the far-left, Moveon wing of the party. The bottom line is Karl Rove was discouraging a reporter from writing a false story based on a false premise and the Democrats are engaging in blatant partisan political attacks.''

The following was released today by the RNC:

Cooper's Own Email Claims Rove Warned of Potential Inaccuracies In Wilson Information:

``(Time Reporter Matt) Cooper Wrote That Rove Offered Him A 'Big Warning' Not To 'Get Too Far Out On Wilson.' Rove Told Cooper That Wilson's Trip Had Not Been Authorized By 'DCIA' - CIA Director George Tenet - Or Vice President Dick Cheney.'' (Michael Isikoff, ``Matt Cooper's Source,'' Newsweek, 7/18/05)

Wilson Falsely Claimed That It Was Vice President Cheney Who Sent Him To Niger, But The Vice President Has Said He Never Met Him And Didn't Know Who Sent Him:

Wilson Says He Traveled To Niger At CIA Request To Help Provide Response To Vice President's Office.

``In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. ... The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office.'' (Joseph C. Wilson, Op-Ed, ``What I Didnt Find In Africa,'' The New York Times, 7/6/03)

-- Joe Wilson: ``What They Did, What The Office Of The Vice President Did, And, In Fact, I Believe Now From Mr. Libby's Statement, It Was Probably The Vice President Himself ...'' (CNN's ``Late Edition,'' 8/3/03)

Vice President Cheney: ``I Don't Know Joe Wilson. I've Never Met Joe Wilson. ... And Joe Wilson - I Don't (Know) Who Sent Joe Wilson. He Never Submitted A Report That I Ever Saw When He Came Back.'' (NBC's ``Meet The Press,'' 9/14/03)

CIA Director George Tenet: ``In An Effort To Inquire About Certain Reports Involving Niger, CIA's Counter-Proliferation Experts, On Their Own Initiative, Asked An Individual With Ties To The Region To Make A Visit To See What He Could Learn.'' (Central Intelligence Agency, ``Statement By George J. Tenet, Director Of Central Intelligence,'' Press Release, 7/11/03)

-- Tenet: ``Because This Report, In Our View, Did Not Resolve Whether Iraq Was Or Was Not Seeking Uranium From Abroad, It Was Given A Normal And Wide Distribution, But We Did Not Brief It To The President, Vice-President Or Other Senior Administration Officials.'' (Central Intelligence Agency, ``Statement By George J. Tenet, Director Of Central Intelligence,'' Press Release, 7/11/03)

Wilson Denied His Wife Suggested He Travel To Niger, But Documentation Showed She Proposed His Name:

Wilson Claims His Wife Did Not Suggest He Travel To Niger To Investigate Reports Of Uranium Deal; Instead, Wilson Claims It Came Out Of Meeting With CIA To Discuss Report. CNN'S WOLF BLITZER: ``Among other things, you had always said, always maintained, still maintain your wife, Valerie Plame, a CIA officer, had nothing to do with the decision to send to you Niger to inspect reports that uranium might be sold from Niger to Iraq. ... Did Valerie Plame, your wife, come up with the idea to send you to Niger?'' JOE WILSON: ``No. My wife served as a conduit, as I put in my book. When her supervisors asked her to contact me for the purposes of coming into the CIA to discuss all the issues surrounding this allegation of Niger selling uranium to Iraq.'' (CNN's ``Lade Edition,'' 7/18/04)

-- But Senate Select Committee On Intelligence Received Not Only Testimony But Actual Documentation Indicating Wilson's Wife Proposed Him For Trip. ``Some (CIA Counterproliferation Division, or CPD,) officials could not recall how the office decided to contact the former ambassador, however, interviews and documents provided to the Committee indicate that his wife, a CPD employee, suggested his name for the trip. The CPD reports officer told Committee staff that the former ambassador's wife 'offered up his name' and a memorandum to the Deputy Chief of the CPD on February 12, 2002, from the former ambassador's wife says, 'my husband has good relations with both the PM (prime minister) and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.''' (Select Committee On Intelligence, ``Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,'' U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

Wilson's Report On Niger Had ``Thin'' Evidence And Did Not Change Conclusions Of Analysts And Other Reports:

Officials Said Evidence Was ``Thin'' And His ``Homework Was Shoddy.'' ``In the days after Wilson's essay appeared, government officials began to steer reporters away from Wilson's conclusions, raising questions about his veracity and the agency's reasons for sending him in the first place. They told reporters that Wilson's evidence was thin, said his homework was shoddy and suggested that he had been sent to Niger by the CIA only because his wife had nominated him for the job.'' (Michael Duffy, ``Leaking With A Vengeance,'' Time, 10/13/03)

Senate Select Committee On Intelligence Unanimous Report: ``Conclusion 13. The Report On The Former Ambassador's Trip To Niger, Disseminated In March 2002, Did Not Change Any Analysts' Assessments Of The Iraq-Niger Uranium Deal.'' (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, ``Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Assessments On Iraq, 7/7/04)

-- ``For Most Analysts, The Information In The Report Lent More Credibility To The Original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Report On The Uranium Deal, But State Department Bureau Of Intelligence And Research (IN) Analysts Believed That The Report Supported Their Assessments That Niger Was Unlikely To Be Willing Or Able To Sell Uranium.'' (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, ``Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Assessments On Iraq, 7/7/04)

CIA Said Wilson's Findings Did Not Resolve The Issue. ``Because (Wilson's) report, in our view, did not resolve whether Iraq was or was not seeking uranium from abroad, it was given a normal and wide distribution, but we did not brief it to the president, vice president or other senior administration officials. We also had to consider that the former Nigerien officials knew that what they were saying would reach the U.S. government and that this might have influenced what they said.'' (Central Intelligence Agency, ``Statement By George J. Tenet, Director Of Central Intelligence,'' Press Release 7/11/03)

The Butler Report Claimed That The President's State Of the Union Statement On Uranium From Africa, ``Was Well-Founded.'' ``We conclude that, on the basis of the intelligence assessments at the time, covering both Niger and the Democratic Republic of Congo, the statements on Iraqi attempts to buy uranium from Africa in the Government's dossier, and by the Prime Minister in the House of Commons, were well-founded. By extension, we conclude also that the statement in President Bush's State of the Union Address of 28 January 2003 that: 'The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.' was well-founded.'' (The Rt. Hon. The Lord Butler Of Brockwell, ``Review Of Intelligence, On Weapons Of Mass Destruction,'' 7/14/04)

Sens. Roberts, Bond And Hatch All Dismissed Wilson's Claims:

Sens. Pat Roberts (R-KS), Kit Bond (R-MO) And Orrin Hatch (R-UT) All Stated, ``On At Least Two Occasions (Wilson) Admitted That He Had No Direct Knowledge To Support Some Of His Claims And That He Was Drawing On Either Unrelated Past Experiences Or No Information At All.'' (Select Committee On Intelligence, ``Additional Views Of Chairman Pat Roberts, Joined By Senator Christopher S. Bond And Senator Orrin G. Hatch; Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,'' U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

-- ``The Former Ambassador, Either By Design Or Through Ignorance, Gave The American People And, For That Matter, The World A Version Of Events That Was Inaccurate, Unsubstantiated, And Misleading.'' (Select Committee On Intelligence, ``Additional Views Of Chairman Pat Roberts, Joined By Senator Christopher S. Bond And Senator Orrin G. Hatch; Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,'' U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

-- ``(J)oe Wilson Told Anyone Who Would Listen That The President Had Lied To The American People, That The Vice President Had Lied And That He Had 'Debunked' The Claim That Iraq Was Seeking Uranium From Africa ... Not Only Did He NOT 'Debunk' The Claim, He Actually Gave Some Intelligence Analysts Even More Reason To Believe That It May Be True.'' (Select Committee On Intelligence, ``Additional Views Of Chairman Pat Roberts, Joined By Senator Christopher S. Bond And Senator Orrin G. Hatch; Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,'' U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

Wilson Tied To The 2004 Kerry Campaign For President:

Wilson Endorsed Kerry In October 2003. ``Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who accused the Bush administration of manipulating intelligence to exaggerate the threat from Iraq, endorsed Democrat John Kerry for president ... In a conference call with New Hampshire reporters, Wilson said he and Kerry have shared the experience of challenging their government Wilson when he questioned the 'rush to war' with Iraq, Kerry when he challenged America's role in Vietnam.'' (David Tirrell-Wysocki, ``Former Ambassador Wilson Endorses Kerry In Presidential Race,'' The Associated Press, 10/23/03)

``Wilson ... Said He Has Long Been A Kerry Supporter And Has Contributed $2,000 To The Campaign This Year. He Said He Has Been Advising Kerry On Foreign Policy For About Five Months And Will Campaign For Kerry, Including A Trip To New Hampshire ... `` (David Tirrell-Wysocki, ``Former Ambassador Wilson Endorses Kerry In Presidential Race,'' The Associated Press, 10/23/03)

``In Mid-May, (Wilson) Began Talking To Kerry's Advisers About Helping The Campaign; He Made His First Donation May 23. Kerry Himself Had Not Met Wilson Until Tuesday Night At A Campaign Fund-Raiser In Potomac, Md., A Kerry Aide Said ... `` (Patrick Healy and Wayne Washington, ``In Probe Of CIA Leak, Two Sides See Politics,'' The Boston Globe, 10/2/03)

``(Kerry Advisor Rand) Beers Said Wilson Communicates With Campaign Advisers At Least Once A Week.'' (Patrick Healy and Wayne Washington, ``In Probe Of CIA Leak, Two Sides See Politics,'' The Boston Globe, 10/2/03)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeak; moveon; plame; rove; soros; wilson

Lando

1 posted on 07/12/2005 10:50:11 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln
I saw the following headline on the Yahoo! homepage this morning: "Rove email puts White House in bind". That told me everything I needed to know.

...The MSM is desperate for another Watergate and they hope this reporter is another 'Deep Throat'.

How utterly pathetic.
2 posted on 07/12/2005 10:59:26 AM PDT by T Lady (The American Left: Useful Idiots for Terrorist Regimes)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Interesting... isn't it? The White House Press Corps is even less aware of the Internet than Dan Rather and Mary Mapes!
3 posted on 07/12/2005 11:00:19 AM PDT by johnny7 ('Deservin ain't got 'nothin to do with it! -Will Money)
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To: Lando Lincoln

And why is the White House on the ropes with this? Why is Scott McClellan strumming his lip helplessly while Terry Moran and David Gregory savage him? Why, indeed, does the White House even permit Moran and Gregory to come in and p!$$ on the staff and the office of the President?
I am beyond sympathy for the President and all who serve him. I'm now into annoyance that they allow these media hyenas to diminish the office. It must stop and the President has the authority to stop it.


4 posted on 07/12/2005 11:04:39 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Lando Lincoln

Great post.

BTW, I wonder who the NYT reporter in jail is protecting - it sure isn't Rove...


5 posted on 07/12/2005 11:43:04 AM PDT by talleyman (Sharks, terrorists & criminals - if we'll just be nice to them, they'll leave us alone...)
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To: Graymatter

the white house political war room, and specifically McClellan as spokesman, stinks on just about every single issue. no surprise there.

the white house should never have given up on the Iraq/Niger connection (since its true) until they verified how the forged documents were placed into the intel stream (they were planted as a poison pill to discredit the story). that fact is totally gone from the story now - now its about this nonsense of releasing the name of a "covert" CIA agent, and the washington press corps hystrionics, and giving the idiots on the left a rallying point.


6 posted on 07/12/2005 11:47:21 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Howlin

I suppose this is the memo that Terry Moron was talking about at the WH presser today


7 posted on 07/12/2005 12:02:48 PM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: Graymatter

Because the matter is under criminal investigation and the prosecutor has asked them not to comment on the case.

Therefore McClellan is making no comment.

Moran and Gregory are acting like children who can't get their way, and they'd be fired by respectable news organizations for their actions because they make the news organization look bad and hurt it's credibility.

I suspect their credibility will be damaged even more when the investigation is concluded and all the facts come out.

Rove and the administration know the facts, and I suspect they're playing this in this manner for a reason.

Only those who believe in the left's mantra religously will continue to take the main stream media and the far left seriously while they keep doing this crap. Unfortunately, that's still a lot of people. Fortunately, the voting public is becomming more informed through other sources.

Let the main stream media keep lowering their credibility.

Let the liberals froth at the mouth about someone who's a political strategist.

What's the democratic party's platform? What do they believe in? Why should people vote for them?

We know they are for gay marriage, against the war, and they like raising taxes.

Those things aren't going to win them elections.


8 posted on 07/12/2005 12:10:54 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Lando Lincoln

The MSM has never admitted it was duped by this loser Wilson. Therefore, it will never give credit to Rove for tipping it off and preventing it from making a bigger fool of itself. Thus, it must continue to pursue the angle that for some reason Karl Rove belongs in jail for 'outing a covert agent.'

Of course, the MSM yawns when liberals like Clinton and Berger steal or hand over classified documents to our enemies.


9 posted on 07/12/2005 12:19:35 PM PDT by GianniV
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To: Lando Lincoln

Great post. Lets keep this message up so the pathetic libs know we know where the truth lies.

DEMS LIE!


10 posted on 07/12/2005 12:20:41 PM PDT by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel Rocks!)
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To: talleyman

My guess, and it’s only a guess, is that the New York Times is protecting the inexcusables ; the Clintons.


11 posted on 07/12/2005 12:26:54 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: untrained skeptic

Don’t forget the number one plank in the liberal platform;
Killing babies in the womb.


12 posted on 07/12/2005 12:31:31 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: Mo1

Almost missed this; thanks.


13 posted on 07/12/2005 12:40:20 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: tractorman

Thank you for pointing out that I missed the issue that is the greatest moral outrage of our time, and an issue that has never had popular support.


14 posted on 07/12/2005 1:14:08 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

You’re most welcome.

Like I tell my UAW employees. I ask how they can live like conservatives yet vote like a liberal. Yea I want fairness and equality and some other Democrat stuff but if I would ever vote Democrat I also get:

Gun grabbers
Baby killers
Homo lovers
Tax raises

Some have come to the same understanding and others never will.


15 posted on 07/12/2005 1:22:24 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: tractorman
"Yea I want fairness and equality and some other Democrat stuff but..."

The democrats say they are for fairness and equality, yet their actions most often appear to be quite the opposite.

Is it fair to murder a living being just because another living being doesn't want to be inconvenienced? Doesn't an unborn child deserve equal rights to live as the mother does?

The democrats are about destroying the concept of personal responsibility, and building people's reliance on the government.

They don't treat people equally, they fire up support in some groups by fueling the fires of hate against another group.

The republicans believe equality is everyone having an opportunity, but they have to work to take advantage of that opportunity.

The democrats say that we don't have equality because someone else in keeping it from us and only the government can give us equality.

The democrats aren't about equality. They are elitists who are concerned either with power, or are under the impression that they have to lead the stupid commoners for their own good.
16 posted on 07/12/2005 1:43:52 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: talleyman

"BTW, I wonder who the NYT reporter in jail is protecting - it sure isn't Rove..."

This is the question the MSM should be asking. Novak wrote a column and won't talk, Miller is in jail and won't talk and Cooper was told by Rove to go ahead and talk and the media is all gaga over a non story.


17 posted on 07/12/2005 2:57:51 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: Graymatter
And why is the White House on the ropes with this? Why is Scott McClellan strumming his lip helplessly while Terry Moran and David Gregory savage him?

We hear this complaint everytime the Dems/MSM think they are nailing the Bush Administration with some HUGE scandel.

Even I get frustrated waiting for the White House to put these little twits in their place.

But EVERY time the Dems/MSM end up with looking like fools when their accusations turn into nothing.

This is what happened with the "Bush-Enron" scandel, the "Bush-Lied" 9/11 Commission fiasco.
Sometimes I think Bush tells his people to look weak just to draw his accusers into a trap, and then make fools of them.

18 posted on 07/12/2005 7:57:16 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Lando Lincoln

The RATS continue down the road to oblivion. They aren't fooling anyone anymore but the hard core leftist's. Can they really be this ignorant ?


19 posted on 07/12/2005 8:01:22 PM PDT by John Lenin (Everything the RATS have done since 2000 has been a boomerang disaster)
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To: oceanview

" the white house political war room, and specifically McClellan as spokesman, stinks on just about every single issue. no surprise there "

Our cries fall on deaf ears at the White House.
Apparently they would prefer to have a stumbling, fumbling hemming, hawing deer in the headlights ahhh..ahhh... family friend as a spokesman rather than someone who could enunciate the President's policies in a clear and commanding voice.
It appears as if sleeping gas and "Sally Fields, Do You Like Me " gas ? has been pumped into every room of the media operations at the WH the last six months.


20 posted on 07/12/2005 8:01:34 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Jorge

The same thought crossed my mind. What hand is the Texan holding this time?


21 posted on 07/12/2005 8:04:34 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

imagine Rush or Laura Ingraham in McClellan's job. Bush's poll numbers would be 10 pts higher.


22 posted on 07/12/2005 8:07:39 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: John Lenin

oblivion? they've got a solid 45% of the vote on their side. even ignorant americans have the right to vote.


23 posted on 07/12/2005 8:08:42 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Uh huh, 45% of the vote in every race and in 3 election cycles the party will go the way of the Whigg party. Think positve !

Bwahahahaa, what a maroon !
24 posted on 07/12/2005 8:10:24 PM PDT by John Lenin (Everything the RATS have done since 2000 has been a boomerang disaster)
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To: Jorge

it costs Bush in the polls. most americans aren't deeply informed on this story, they just here the snippets at the top of the news, so the spin from the left, and the inability of the white house to have a consistent communcations message, or in this case, a rebuttal to this nonsense - does cost us.

we had an election in 2004 that we won by one state with 60K votes. Reagan was winning lanslides. there's your answer right there as to where it matters. Reagan and his team knew that everyday, his most important job was crafting and communicating a consistent message to the american people. what I wouldn't give for Rollins, Nofsziger, Larry Speaks, and Atwater in this administration.


25 posted on 07/12/2005 8:14:41 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: John Lenin

that's their base, 43-45%. not their maximum. they compete for the swing voters, had they swung 60K of them in Ohio last time out - Kerry would be president right now.


26 posted on 07/12/2005 8:16:34 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

The base is 35% tops. You are dreamming and in deep denial. The RATS are self destructing and like you they think they are getting stronger.


27 posted on 07/12/2005 8:18:01 PM PDT by John Lenin (Everything the RATS have done since 2000 has been a boomerang disaster)
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To: John Lenin

I didn't say they were getting stronger. but they aren't imploding either, and they spoon feed these stories to the sheeple, while we have McClellan up their who can't string a 5 word sentence together - it does have an effect on public opinion amongst the broad uninformed sheeple masses.


28 posted on 07/12/2005 8:21:38 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

They aren't fooling many people anymore. Obviously you are one the few left that is fooled.


29 posted on 07/12/2005 8:23:48 PM PDT by John Lenin (Everything the RATS have done since 2000 has been a boomerang disaster)
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To: John Lenin

no, I'm not fooled - I'm just worried about the people that are, there are plenty of them.


30 posted on 07/12/2005 8:28:31 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

" imagine Rush or Laura Ingraham in McClellan's job. Bush's poll numbers would be 10 pts higher."

At least.
My pick would be Dan Senor - who was available when he came back from Iraq.
Or Torie Clarke.
I don't know anyone, from major Bushbots like myself to casual Republicans who don't cringe when they see McClellan on tv.
He cannot explain the President's policies in a coherent and confident manner.
The media runs roughshod on him every single day.
His presser on the President's National Guard records was horrendous and gave the media the foothold they wanted.
He may be the nicest guy in the world, but, he's the wrong guy for the job.
Unfortunately , the White House refuses to see this.


31 posted on 07/12/2005 8:28:59 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: oceanview

The phony polls and media bias is their downfall, until they accept the fact that their agenda isn't selling and change diresctions they will keep losing elections. The MSM is doing the GOP a hugh favor by propping up a losing ideology. It's the end results that count. The real poll is at the voting booth !


32 posted on 07/12/2005 8:33:48 PM PDT by John Lenin (Everything the RATS have done since 2000 has been a boomerang disaster)
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To: untrained skeptic

Amen brother!


33 posted on 07/13/2005 5:49:38 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: oceanview
"had they swung 60K of them in Ohio last time out"

They need the Rendell-Daley TEAM to "gin up" votes,huh? LOL...

34 posted on 07/13/2005 5:57:22 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: Lando Lincoln

This is nothing but another leftist witch-hunt. They had better check themselves- their double standard is showing again...


35 posted on 07/13/2005 6:01:22 AM PDT by 13Sisters76
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