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Dead Boys Alive in Trunk for 17 Hours
FOXNews.com ^ | 7/19/2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/19/2005 9:34:10 AM PDT by AbeKrieger

CAMDEN, N.J. — Three boys who suffocated in a car trunk last month were alive for at least 17 hours, slowly succumbing while police searched their neighborhood, a lawyer for the family of one of the boys says. Lawyer Peter M. Villari told The New York Times that officials of the Camden County prosecutor's office went over details of an autopsy report with him, the newspaper reported Tuesday. The boys, ages 5, 6 and 11, disappeared from the yard where they were playing a little after 5 p.m. on June 22. Their deaths were ruled accidental. Relatives searched for the boys for three hours and then called authorities. A two-day search that included dogs, helicopters and boats on the nearby Delaware River ended when the father of one of the boys found them dead in the trunk of an inoperable car sitting just feet from where they had been playing. The autopsy report, which has not been released publicly, found that the boys died between 10:30 a.m. on June 23 and 2:30 a.m. on June 24, Villari said. That estimate was based on fluid and tissue samples and weather data, he said. Villari told the newspaper that responsibility for the deaths is now "squarely on the shoulders of the police." "I think the numbers speak for themselves," he said. "They were certainly alive when the police arrived and certainly well after the search started." Villari did no immediately return a call seeking additional comment Tuesday. The prosecutors' office had no immediate comment.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: camden; missing; police; suffocation
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To: linkinpunk

I planted an insurance money tree in my back yard years ago.
I was not informed it required special tax-payer funded water to make it grow. Needless to say, it died.


41 posted on 07/19/2005 10:07:37 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: linkinpunk

Where is the money coming from that will pay for the increase of the insurance premiums?


42 posted on 07/19/2005 10:08:44 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: RushCrush

I feel really bad for you.

It must be almost as bad as having your child suffocate in the trunk of a hot car.

I'll put you on my prayer list.


43 posted on 07/19/2005 10:09:47 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Spoken like a true welfare queen.

Excuse me? That's an uncalled for cheap shot. If the police 'searched' the car but didn't even look in the trunk, it is a no brainer to conclude they didn't do a thorough job. Liability, schmiability... I don't give a hoot about the legalities of this tragedy, but no police officer should EVER claim they've perfomed a car search without opening the damn trunk!
44 posted on 07/19/2005 10:09:48 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: linkinpunk
A report from prosecutors on issues including why searchers never looked in the car trunk is due next week.

Tell you what, let's see what they say about WHY the trunk was not searched. I plan NOT to be surprised with the findings.

45 posted on 07/19/2005 10:10:01 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: Thombo2

Attractive Nuisance


46 posted on 07/19/2005 10:11:01 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: rollo tomasi

Depends.

How much is the insurance premium going up because of this one claim?


47 posted on 07/19/2005 10:11:07 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Owl_Eagle
A moron menagerie if there ever was one.

There is something utterly grotesque about this case. I could swear I saw the mother on TV, after the boys were found dead in the trunk, smiling and laughing during an interview. She didn't look or seem in any way distraught.
48 posted on 07/19/2005 10:11:23 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Antoninus
Interesting. . .and if I was wearing a tin-foil hat I might think that perhaps SHE was involved somehow. . .
49 posted on 07/19/2005 10:12:21 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: linkinpunk

I have no idea what you are talking about.


50 posted on 07/19/2005 10:13:05 AM PDT by RushCrush (Hubba hubba hubba, Dooba Dooba Dooba!)
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To: RushCrush
I'm against my insurance rates going up.

I feel really bad for you.

It must be almost as bad as having your child suffocate in the trunk of a hot car.

I'll put you on my prayer list.

51 posted on 07/19/2005 10:15:07 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: linkinpunk
One example is negligence. The other one is negligence. (try some intelligence next time)

Wrong. The Camden cops did not kill these kids, nor through negligence, cause their deaths, as in your example of failing to check the rear-view mirror. And the parents of these kids, through their own negligence, not the police, allowed these kids to access this car's trunk and lock themselves in. And until cops have X-Ray vision or ESP.... Come on, man !!!

52 posted on 07/19/2005 10:17:28 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: linkinpunk

You can cut and paste as many times as you'd like. I still have no idea what you are driving at.


53 posted on 07/19/2005 10:19:10 AM PDT by RushCrush (Hubba hubba hubba, Dooba Dooba Dooba!)
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To: linkinpunk

The parents position a death trap in their front yard and you want to blame the gov't for it. You've been well conditioned by our litigious, victimist zeitgeist.


54 posted on 07/19/2005 10:20:16 AM PDT by beckett
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To: linkinpunk

Having your children die like that must be truly horrible, which is why the parents probably can't bear to acknowledge that it is their fault for their negligent supervision of those children and for not looking in the trunk themselves, especially if it is true as someone said here on the thread that they had played in the car here. I do not know in the police seach of the car was thorough enough or not but they did not cause this tragedy, the parents did.


55 posted on 07/19/2005 10:21:42 AM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: demkicker
If the police 'searched' the car but didn't even look in the trunk, it is a no brainer to conclude they didn't do a thorough job.

So it's the cops' job to keep track of your children?

You are a welfare queen.

56 posted on 07/19/2005 10:24:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: AbeKrieger
"Sorry Sarge, I didn't know they was in the trunk. I ain't got no x-ray vision."

Use your brain.

If the officer failed to completely search a subject for a weapon and was subsequently shot, everyone would fault him for being sloppy.
57 posted on 07/19/2005 10:24:42 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: AbeKrieger
"Tell you what, let's see what they say about WHY the trunk was not searched. I plan NOT to be surprised with the findings."

Can police just start looking where ever they want to? If my neighbors kids go missing can the cops come into my house and check around for them? Or more to the point, pop my trunk and check it? They could easily look in the windows, but if these kids passed out after 3 hours of sitting in a trunk in the hot sun they weren't making noise and it seems to me the cops don't have the authority to search trunks.
58 posted on 07/19/2005 10:25:10 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: Steelerfan

By the way, something is wrong with this whole storyline. If the kids were conscious when the police searched the vehicle, they would have heard the cops even if the cops didn't open the trunk. You would think the kids could have made enough noise to be noticed. Same thing if the parents really were searching the area before they called the police. The only way this accidental death explanation makes any sense would be if the kids were unsupervised long enought to get locked in the trunk and then become unconcious before anyone even started looking. If that is the case, then whoever was supervising them that day is lucky they are not up on negligent homicide charges.


59 posted on 07/19/2005 10:27:23 AM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: thoolou

While watching a news clip, I noticed a police Sargent, with about 100 pounds of ass, walk up to the car and look inside and under the auto and walk by the trunk. She then walked up behind and looked at some bushes. She looked as if she was happy to be on National news.


60 posted on 07/19/2005 10:27:40 AM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name, His Son Yahshua Messiah is coming soon!)
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