Salty dogma: Bono gives an explicit confession of being saved by Grace, not Karma

WORLD ^ | August 6, 2005 | Gene Edward Veith

[johnb838]

Christ is looking for sincerity not useful idiots.

I'm going to have to fly that from my tagline for a while. That's good.

[L,TOWM]

Where does he stand on Abortion and Homosexuality?

Can a Christian be a political-liberal?

I'm not sure where he is on those issues, but I suspect it is fairly close to where I am (and I am no liberal):

Abortion and sodomy are both sins. As I understand scripture, though, ALL sin is equally repugnant to God. So visitors to a sodomite bath house and the abortuary are condemmed in God's sight, but so is the man looking at a woman he is not married to with lust or the woman envying her neighbor's home.

Christ died for the abortionist, homo, adulterer, and coveter just the same as he died for a lying, thieving druggie like me. That is what I tell my lost family which includes people that have had abortions, adulterers, sodomites, all manner of sinners.

There is a time and place for preaching "You're gonna burn for that" and a time and a place for saying "God loves you". The best evangelists speak those two truths equally and appropriately.

I am not a good evangelist. I suspect that "liberal" christians are less comfortable with condemming and emphasize God's forgiveness. A lot of times, me included, other Christians are outraged over those that engage in, facilitate, and encourage others to sin. But the Holy Spirit through Paul let us know in Romans Ch.1 that this is part of human depravity too, so we should not be surprised. Our reaction is to try and prevent, deter, and stop sin. The reaction of others might be to reach out and not condemn. Which one is right? Probably both in equal measure and at the proper time. As another poster mentioned, many christians that work with extensively with the poor are often liberals.

[Walkingfeather]

NO he hasnt done his homework.... He is that man. He has been for decades. Those on this site have judged his actions as if they were the scribes and pharisees. I would like to see how many others have used their talents ( I am talking talents in the parable sense) as well as Bono. Others have mocked his every motive. Those that are actually Christians everyday not just on sunday mornging know that what you just read is from someone with authentic faith not Bill Clinton the Bible is a prop faith.

I would reccomend we back of the Judgement not for Bono's sake but because what you measure will be measured to you.

[wallcrawlr]

Bono counters, "It's a mind-blowing concept that the God who created the Universe...

Revelation 4:11
See my profile for info

[Rightly Biased]

Christ died for the abortionist, homo, adulterer, and coveter just the same as he died for a lying, thieving druggie like me. That is what I tell my lost family which includes people that have had abortions, adulterers, sodomites, all manner of sinners.

Well said and thanks for the response. I will just watch and see and not condem cause thats not my duty.
RB

[Terabitten]

More proof they're unable to have an original thought.

Of course, the Bible also says that there is nothing new under the sun. That means that *none* of us really have an original thought. I guess that makes us all useful idiots, huh?

[Das Outsider]

BTTT

[Das Outsider]

Thanks, wall. I'll have to read the whole lot when I get back from vacation.

[CaptainK]

I think you are confusing Bono with Skunk Baxter of the Doobie Brothers.

http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1450114/10172001/doobie_brothers.jhtml

[GatorGirl]

You sound like a bigger U2 fan than me!

I didn't relalize that moral/religious differences almost broke up the band. I still love them and would be disappointed to see them go, although I didn't think Vertigo was their best work. I think the Joshua Tree is the best album, ever (see my profile ;-) but War has a special place in my heart, as listening to that album is how I became a fan.

I, too, don't agree with Bono on everything, but he is genuine, and as you correctly point out, unlike other celebrities, he gets educated on the issues he cares about!

[AnnaZ]

I got the book as a gift yesterday. I'm looking very forward to reading it.

[uncitizen]

Too bad Bono didn't punch this guys lights out.

[exnavychick]

I'm curious...why do you think Bono is insincere in his faith?

Because he nearly quoted C.S. Lewis? I have no problem quoting someone who says what I think better than I could have expressed it myself. Perhaps that is the case here.

The fact that he used Lewis' words doesn't mean that he doesn't really believe, or that he is a "useful idiot". I don't agree with Bono's politics, but I can see that his heart is in the right place, and that he puts his money where his mouth is. That's more than you can say for many, myself included.

[fish hawk]

If Bono is sincere, and I believe he is, we will see more changes in him in the near future. As he gives up milk for meat, the change will come.

[Malichi]

Excellent!!

[PigRigger]

"So what you're left with is either Christ was who He said He was—the Messiah—or a complete nutcase. . . . "

I say this to those in my travels who ask me about my faith....In the end, he is either God or just a man....there is no in between....Given the things I have had the opportunity to witness; I suspect my faith is well founded....

[Muzzle_em]

U got that right.
I read the part about his notoriously bad language and thought, "Who among us Christians has never cursed other idiots on the road, cutting us off in traffic or running us off the road while yapping on a cell phone?" I'm a Christian and NOT proud of some of the words that have flown out of my mouth!
Anyone who is a "perfect Christian" doesn't need Christ.

[PigRigger]

"Can a Christian be a political-liberal?...."

Yes, a Christian is anyone who accepts God's Salvation through Christ's sacrifice. We are saved by God's loving grace, and our faith in such, not by our actions or political belief's.

[Muzzle_em]

It is VERY hard to break!
I'm a Christian female who curses like a sailor when angered and that habit is a thorn in my side that I've prayed desperately for years for God to remove! I'm not proud of it!

[velocityguy]

Good for him!