Muslim group in Britain decries 'hate'

The Washington Times ^ | July 31, 2005 | Al Webb

[river rat]

LONDON -- Leaders of a key Muslim organization in Britain, angered by the deadly terror attacks in London, yesterday told tens of thousands of followers that "enough is enough" and urged all Muslims to turn away from "harbingers of hate." "The word 'Islam' means peace," said Rafiq Hayat, national president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association U.K., "but we have to live by it in order to grow." Mr. Hayat's call for Muslims to quit listening to fanatics who stir terrorists to action came in the wake of a new opinion survey showing that one in four Muslims in Britain sympathizes with the motives of the suicide bombers who killed 52 commuters in the British capital on July 7.

[bitt]

please take a few minutes to post some keywords...it relaxes one, somewhat...

[I see my hands]

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:Leaders of a key Muslim organization in Britain told followers that "enough is enough" and urged all Muslims to turn away from harbingers of hate."

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More likely coded terror instructions to islamists than a call to civility. Send these leaders to cuba.

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[American in Israel]

The word Islam means submission, not peace. And the word Muslim means lying murderer.

If it lies through its teeth, celebrates blowing up school buses and shreds your children with schrapnel, its a Muslim.

Sheer-Co-Inky-Dink that it is 100 percent Odds right?

If it worships death, dances in the streets for mass murder, and cuts it's own daughers throat for "honor", call it a Muslim, because frankly, Nobody else on earth acts like that.

NOBODY.

[iconoclast]

Don't bother me till they've turned in a nut case to LE.

[timdel33]

Good point... You can't be a Mussie and not condone terrorism.
There so called "Peace" (meaning "don't hurt us you fools") replay is a bit late don't you think?

[manic4organic]

Where are the usual muzzie-defenders wailing that it's unfair to lump them all in the same category and "cherry pick" Koranic verses that demonstrate the validity of the charge that islam is indeed a cult of death.

[D-fendr]

Ignoring that to a muslim, Islam really means submission to Allah's Will, I like this guys message.

It's a whole lot less Clintonian than CAIRs recent similar PR stuff.

Islam doesn't have a central authority, so it's Iman vs. Iman. This group claims 200 million, it's opponents say 10 million. Any encouragement for one group to fight against the Wahabbis is a good development.

[dila813]

"The word 'Islam' means peace,"

It really means to submit to the will of Allah.

In it you will find Peace.

[Dark Skies]

In it you will find Peace.

Actually, I imagine you are correct. However, Islam doesn't mean "peace" for the non-muslim neighbors of those who have submitted to Allah.

[river rat]

Those aren't the only two options...

One need not kill all Muslims, as you suggest -- one need simply kill more of the loud mouthed, rabble rousing,Jihadist and Jihadist support bastards.

One could deport all non-citizens that are "preaching" or "teaching" violent actions in their guest nations.

One could deport naturalized citizens back to their Turd World origin -- if ANY falsehood or illegal action against their host nation can be shown...

One can continue to use Afghanistan, Iraq and possibly Syria as "shit magnets" -- since they have been shown to be exceedingly successful in drawing the Jihadist wannabes to their destruction... Another PLUS in using the "shit magnets" -- is that most "Jihadists" are too cowardly to directly attack armed forces - and instead kill the local innocent civilians which help define the lunatic bastards as TERRORISTS with NO MORALS.

One can SHUT DOWN the borders and visas to folks from the "Axis of Islam and Evil" from entering the U.S. unless specifically invited by the U.S. Government...


Etc, etc, etc,.....

There are LOTS of things we can do - to express OUR dissatisfaction with the CONSTANT excuses and complaints from the Muslim population that they're TARGETED and Discriminated against...

Well -- you can bet your ass they SHOULD be targeted and they SHOULD be discriminated against, until they give substantive justification to trust them...

Semper Fi

[river rat]

"I like this guys message."

Talk is cheap..
Talk can be deception -- unless backed with substantive ACTION..

Action can be in the form of one of Islam's dreaded "Fatwas"..
Why haven't any MAJOR Muslim clerics issued a Fatwa against a SINGLE WELL KNOWN TERRORIST???????

I've seen the freaking "Dog and Pony" show of "condemning terrorism" -- but I've yet to hear a major Muslim Cleric condemn by NAME a SPECFICE TERRORIST -- and call for his DEATH.....

NOT ONE..... NOT EVER.....

This cleric is simply joining the choir of Muslim bullshitters --- and is NOT to be taken seriously, until he or someone else DOES SOMETHING TANGIBLE to prove their position..

Until then -- they are ALL SUSPECT, and NOT to be trusted.

Semper Fi

[river rat]

It really means to submit to the will of Allah. In it you will find Peace.

I'll bet you believe in the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and Santa Clause too..

The Will of GOD, will not be learned though the teaching, practices or hate spewing Koran that the murderous pedophile Mohammad delivered..

Semper Fi

[Dog Gone]

With all due respect, deporting muslims won't do it. Islam itself has to be reformed or eliminated. I don't think elimination is an option.

Give me 5000 dollars and I can sneak into any country in the world. So can they.

Unless and until we get islam itself to quit producing these hate-filled maniacs, we'll be fighting this war. The first step is for Islamic leaders to begin denouncing this crap. We're hearing the first sounds of that, and I hope it continues.

[river rat]

I didn't suggest deporting all Muslims...
I suggested deporting SPECIFIC Muslims - non-citizens or naturalized citizens that falsified their applications or behaved inappropriately in their host country...

We can't reform Islam -- and the Muslims WON'T do it until they've been forced to face or pay a horrible price for failure to do so....

The cleric quoted in the posted article - is NOT the first to "speak out" against terrorism.... MANY clerics and Muslims "speak" out -- but that's as far as it goes -- and it does NOT reflect their will.....

I'm NOT interested in Muslims continuing to "Speak Out" against the terrorist bastards in their midst --- I expect them to ACT OUT or suffer the consequences -- and at this point, I don't consider any consequence at too horrible to contemplate...

I'm a damned sight more interested in the survival of MY grandchildren that those of these lying murderous sonsuvbithes..whose "religion" declared war on everything I hold dear.

Semper Fi

[mrsmel]

Maybe if they truly follow in the footsteps of their founder,they could be arrested on grounds of sexual child abuse,since our leaders are too squeamish to deal with them on the basis of their terrorism. Then again,considering NAMBLA,maybe not.

[mrsmel]

I'm a damned sight more interested in the survival of MY grandchildren that those of these lying murderous sonsuvbithes..whose "religion" declared war on everything I hold dear

Damn skippy!

[Westbrook]

The last time we faced a fanatical religious enemy was Imperial Shinto Japan.

Their religion taught world conquest and subjugation.

They invented kamikazi.

They were the first to fly manned airplanes into targets as an act of sacrificial martyrdom to bring the martyr directly to the bosoms of his ancestors.

You know what it took to make the the Shinto Japanese "reform" their religion.

We will be remembering it soon on August 6 and again on August 9.

And the Japanese were INFINITELY more civilized than the foaming rabid rabble of Islam.

[mrsmel]

Yes, to be a devout Muslim,you must convert,kill, or enslave the "infidel". Nowhere does true Biblical Christianity call for this. And Christianity's founder, Jesus,wasn't a child molester.

[mrsmel]

Yes, even if the Japanese didn't want to fully enter into the Twentieth century culturally,they were willing to cherry-pick those aspects of that would benefit them. Muslims want to drag the world down to their poverty-stricken technology-allergic level-ie the difference between what Israel has done with their piece of the Middle East and what the Muslim world has done with theirs.

[pointsal]

ping... Golly... good thing Tancredo did say that...