Posted on 08/02/2005 3:35:04 PM PDT by Antioch
Police officers in England's Bedfordshire county have been told to take off their shoes and not interrupt anyone praying during raids of Muslim homes, according to leaked guidelines. The 18-point guide, under development before the recent London bombing attacks, says "the Muslim community feels victimized and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny."
Befordshire's largest city is Luton, about 30 miles north of London, one of Britain's hotbeds of radical Islam. A nail bomb was discovered in the trunk of a car at Luton's railway station after the July 7 attacks that killed 52 people.
The Luton Race Advisory Forum said it had been in discussions with the police before the London bombing campaign about how to raid houses, reported the local newspaper Luton & Dunstable on Sunday.
The guidelines are regularly issued to all staff as a reminder of the force protocol when entering a Muslim household, a Bedfordshire Police spokesman said.
"We take very seriously the culture surrounding all faiths and feel it is important to respect those beliefs, even while carrying out police business," the spokesman explained. "We would like to reassure all communities that any current or perceived tensions, which might be heightened as a result of recent events, will not affect how police deal with Muslims or anyone else."
The guidelines for police offers, according to the paper, include:
1. Rapid entry needs to be the last resort and raids into Muslim houses are discouraged for a number of religious dignity reasons.
2.Police should seek to avoid looking at unclad Muslim women and allow them an opportunity to dress and cover their heads.
3.For reasons of dignity officers should seek to avoid entering occupied bedrooms and bathrooms even before dawn.
4.Use of police dogs will be considered serious desecration of the premises and may necessitate extensive cleaning of the house and disposal of household items.
5.Advice should be sought before considering the use of cameras and camcorders due to the risk of capturing individuals, especially women, in inappropriate dress.
6.Muslim prisoners should be allowed to take additional clothing to the station.
7.If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer. They should be allowed the opportunity to finish.
8.Officers should not take shoes into the houses, especially in areas that might be kept pure for prayer purposes.
9.In the current climate the justification for pre-dawn raids on Muslim houses needs to be clear and transparent.
10.Non-Muslims are not allowed to touch holy books, Qurans or religious artifacts without permission. Where possible, Muslim officers in a state of 'Wudhu' (preparation before prayer) should be used for this purpose.
Zafar Khan, chairman of Luton Council of Faiths, welcomed the guidelines but wants police to deal with all faiths sensitively, the Luton & Dunstable newspaper said. "Guidelines on how to deal and interact with the community in all faiths should be welcomed," he said. "It's a question of being sensitive and informed and if that makes the policing more effective and more sensitive that has to be a good thing." Abdul Malik, chairman of Luton Race Advisory Forum, said "police need to be sensitive when they are going into the homes of everybody – not just Muslims. They should keep respect. Some Hindus and Sikhs have a place or a room devoted to prayer and that should be respected too," he said.
Multi-culturism at its finest. Please, can we eradicate that notion from the US? So far, it seems to be mostly in academia - maybe we should confine "those people" to their campuses, and not send any more of our children to those madrassas.
(Only half joking)
Scene opens on nice 'quiet' street in Binghamingtontrollopshire on Cheddar...the heee-haaaawwww of sirens and 500 English coppers run into the street.
Politely knocking on the door...
"Scuse me Sir, we have a warrent for your arrest and to search the premises...."
"You whot?"...
"Yes, is this the residence of Mr. Ahlalmalam poopla mohammamadoulia?"
"'oooo the bleedin' 'ell wants to know?"
"Well actually, Sir, er ah, Mr. Mohammamadoulia...I'm with Scotland Yard and the Crown suspects you might...perhaps, maybe...well we think you might have 50kg of C4 expolsives that were brought here last night...perhaps, we'd just like to take a look around?
"ooohhhh nooo, I have no such material here, it was modeling clay that we purchased for our own personal use...
"Oh, OK...please accept our apologies and go on with your shoeless praying on the rugs or whatever..."
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You get the idea..eh whot??
I wonder how many non-Muslim criminals will start wearing turbans and carrying Korans so they can avoid police questioning.
"Honest, copper. I'm a Muslim, I am! See? I got me Koran and me turban roight 'ere, I do! Wot? The DVD player and TV you saw me carrying out the smashed door of that appliance shop? That's for watching me prayers! Now, bug off copper, 'efore I call the Town Race Council!"
warrent=warrant/.....DUR!!
Things tend to get down their way...
As part of my Prayer ritual, I spread thumbtacks on the floor . . .
When I does, I hope and pray my niece's Luton-cop husband isn't one of the cops hurt or killed.
OTOH, may one of the dolts who instituted this assinine policy be standing close enough to shield his poor coppers from the worst effects of the blast.
I'm afraid i would rely on the "flash bang" through the window to signal "Prayer is over"....
"This will last until the first police officers are killed during one of their pu$$y raids. It will happen."
No, that won't do it. Police are considered expendable.
Things will tighten up when a POLITICIAN is killed.
Oh what a lovely war...
"7.If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer."
Shakespeare pointed out one reason why this might be a good policy.
HAMLET
Now might I do it pat, now he is praying;
And now I'll do't. And so he goes to heaven;
And so am I revenged. That would be scann'd:
A villain kills my father; and for that,
I, his sole son, do this same villain send
To heaven.
O, this is hire and salary, not revenge.
He took my father grossly, full of bread;
With all his crimes broad blown, as flush as May;
And how his audit stands who knows save heaven?
But in our circumstance and course of thought,
'Tis heavy with him: and am I then revenged,
To take him in the purging of his soul,
When he is fit and season'd for his passage?
No!
Up, sword; and know thou a more horrid hent:
When he is drunk asleep, or in his rage,
Or in the incestuous pleasure of his bed;
At gaming, swearing, or about some act
That has no relish of salvation in't;
Then trip him, that his heels may kick at heaven,
And that his soul may be as damn'd and black
As hell, whereto it goes. My mother stays:
This physic but prolongs thy sickly days.
ok then just dont give them any special treatment ....ok ???
Yes, but Claudius wasn't praying to a figment of the imagination of a crazed 7th century Middle Eastern bandit.
ping
Thank goodness they are taking measures not to offend the beheaders/nail bombers. These people deserve respect too. But wait, our mere existence offends them. Why not just do all ourselves in because we really need to show deference to the Islamonuts.
Thank goodness they are taking measures not to offend the beheaders/nail bombers. These people deserve respect too. But wait, our mere existence offends them. Why not just do all ourselves in because we really need to show deference to the Islamonuts.
OMG.........cracked me up with that one.
I just can't believe this could be real.
What is the protocol for beheadings? Someone please check to be sure they are following, okay?
I pray your niece's husband isn't one too. God bless him and hope he stay's safe.
She told us one time that it is unnerving, because the Muslim fathers come around and stare in the classroom windows, just watching...who knows for what?
It was also un-PC to require the students to learn English; instead, the teachers were required to learn, I think she said either Farsi or Pashtu. Part of their "The Luton Ethnic Minority Achievement Strategy Team works with headteachers, teachers, teaching assistants and community groups in:
...Identifying and sharing curriculum approaches that reflect, celebrate and promote cultural and linguistic diversity..."
Policeman killed during terror raid
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2659133.stm
I should have explained -- I meant that terrorists would believe that any of their ilk killed at prayer would be heading to paradise. Better they know they're going in the other direction.
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