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Brain-dead woman gives birth to baby girl
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Posted on 08/02/2005 7:19:52 PM PDT by CO Gal

A brain-dead pregnant woman who has been kept on life support for nearly three months to give her fetus more time to develop gave birth to a baby girl Tuesday, the woman's brother-in-law said.

There were no complications during delivery and the baby "is doing well," Justin Torres wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press.

The baby, Susan Anne Catherine Torres, weighs one pound 13 ounces and is 13 1/2 inches long, he said.

The infant was delivered via caesarean section, the hospital said.

Susan Torres, a 26-year-old researcher at the National Institutes of Health, lost consciousness from a stroke May 7 after aggressive melanoma spread to her brain.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: prayer; tinybaby
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This is one of the most heartbreaking love stories I've ever heard. God bless this family.
1 posted on 08/02/2005 7:19:52 PM PDT by CO Gal
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To: NYer

Ping


2 posted on 08/02/2005 7:22:27 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Eastern Catholicism: tonic for the lapsed Catholic)
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To: CO Gal
Brain-dead woman gives birth to baby girl

Heck - Hillary did that years ago (well, girl by genetics; if not present appearance).

Seriously: I hope the baby's gonna be okay.

3 posted on 08/02/2005 7:23:13 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: CO Gal

Nice to hear this happened in VA, where the law is automatically pro-life.

A lot of people think that VA has antiquated laws, but can you imagine this happening in New York or CA?


4 posted on 08/02/2005 7:31:23 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: CO Gal

Praying for baby Susan


5 posted on 08/02/2005 7:33:37 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: japaneseghost

Or Florida, where mother and baby would have been starved.


6 posted on 08/02/2005 7:33:37 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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To: japaneseghost
A lot of people think that VA has antiquated laws, but can you imagine this happening in New York or CA?

Yes. Why not?

7 posted on 08/02/2005 7:35:10 PM PDT by psychoknk
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To: japaneseghost
From the original article:

Jason Torres quit his job to be by his wife's side, and last month her fetus passed the 24th week of development -- the earliest point at which doctors felt the baby would have a reasonable chance to survive, the brother-in-law said.

Sounds like this is mainly due to her husband, my prayers are with him and his new daughter.

8 posted on 08/02/2005 7:40:23 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: CO Gal

More info at ... I searched the Google news site and got this,

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=Susan+Torres&btnG=Search+News


9 posted on 08/02/2005 7:42:24 PM PDT by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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To: japaneseghost

NOW would deplore the use of this woman's body as an "incubator." I'm sure the NY Times would write a concerned editorial worrying that some woman would become brain-dead two days after becoming pregnant and be forced by her Christian fundamentalist (i.e, normal Catholic) family to carry the baby to term. Then Pelosi will sponsor an Abortio-By-Default bill.


10 posted on 08/02/2005 7:43:26 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: solitas
Heck - Hillary did that years ago

You can do better than that.

11 posted on 08/02/2005 7:45:21 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: All

From article:

"The entire staff and administration of Virginia Hospital Center, especially the physicians and nurses caring for Susan Torres and Baby Girl Torres, are delighted with the successful delivery," the hospital said in a statement.

A spokeswoman declined to release any additional information, including Susan Torres' condition and whether or not her life support was still in place.


12 posted on 08/02/2005 7:49:19 PM PDT by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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To: CO Gal

Show's you the grace of God is alive and well, and all the more reason to keep up the good fight against the culture of death promoted by the likes of NORAL, NOW and the other leftists.


13 posted on 08/02/2005 7:49:35 PM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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To: CO Gal
It's sick and ghoulish. With the girl not even two lbs, what kind of health and developmental problems will she endure? No mother either.

This is a perversion of the natural order of things by a selfish family and their deceased daughter.

14 posted on 08/02/2005 7:54:15 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Choose LIFE. Circumcision = Barbarism. It's HIS body; what about HIS right to choose?)
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To: newzjunkey

:sigh:


15 posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:22 PM PDT by cyborg (to love,honor and obey...)
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To: newzjunkey

I disagree.


16 posted on 08/02/2005 7:58:44 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: newzjunkey

Why not pray for the child instead of whining about her birth?


17 posted on 08/02/2005 7:59:26 PM PDT by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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To: newzjunkey
Hospitals do amazing things with preemies. I bet this baby will grow up to be perfectly healthy. If I were pregnant again & fell into a coma, I'd want my hubby to do everything in his power to help give our unborn child life.
18 posted on 08/02/2005 8:02:46 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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To: Callahan

"NOW would deplore the use of this woman's body as an "incubator." I'm sure the NY Times would write a concerned editorial worrying that some woman would become brain-dead two days after becoming pregnant and be forced by her Christian fundamentalist (i.e, normal Catholic) family to carry the baby to term. Then Pelosi will sponsor an Abortio-By-Default bill."



Yet...this poor mother was brain-dead for 3 months and absolutely none of what you 'predict' above has occurred.

My first reaction was sympathy for this poor child who'll in all liklihood grow up without a mother.


19 posted on 08/02/2005 8:03:24 PM PDT by Blzbba (For a man who does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favorable - Seneca)
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To: japaneseghost

Wouldn't matter. It might be all up to the husband and, of course, insurance and any donations that were thrown their way as in this case. She's been dead three months and used as an incubator until this daughter could be carved out of her lifeless corpse. As it is the girl is horribly tiny and the chances of her being completely healthy and without complications are probably not high. While I feel for the husband and new father, I'm not sure this is the kind of thing we ought to champion, even from a prolife viewpoint. Hey, why not just keep her around and inseminate her for a sibling! She won't mind, I'm sure. After all, she's dead!


20 posted on 08/02/2005 8:03:54 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Choose LIFE. Circumcision = Barbarism. It's HIS body; what about HIS right to choose?)
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To: newzjunkey
This is a perversion of the natural order of things by a selfish family and their deceased daughter.

So you would prefer her dead? If so please explain the first part of your tag line – not that I understand the second.

21 posted on 08/02/2005 8:05:13 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: linn37

Can't do both for some reason?


22 posted on 08/02/2005 8:05:17 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Choose LIFE. Circumcision = Barbarism. It's HIS body; what about HIS right to choose?)
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To: CO Gal; NYer; Salvation; trussell; Faith

Prayers sent from TX.


23 posted on 08/02/2005 8:06:17 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (The pursuit of life, liberty, and higher tax revenue (amended by the supreme 5).)
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To: Blzbba

The father is a young man. He may very well marry again. Besides her grandmothers are young enough to help raise her. This child is luckier than most. She is loved and she's wanted. A lot of kids can't say that.


24 posted on 08/02/2005 8:08:18 PM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: CO Gal
If that's the case and if I were you, I'd make certain you had the financial and legal means to see your wishes carried out. Don't expect the taxpayers or charity of strangers to help your spouse. It's *your* responsibility.

She's not just in a coma, she's flatline brain dead meaning if she wasn't on life support she would surely completely die as natural order works.

25 posted on 08/02/2005 8:09:18 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Choose LIFE. Circumcision = Barbarism. It's HIS body; what about HIS right to choose?)
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To: newzjunkey

My daughters were premies. Not as small as this girl. BUt I will tell you this this is the right thing to do for the baby. In the NICU with my girls were two girls who went home 2 days before us. They were 1lb 15 oz when born. They were in perfect health when released.


26 posted on 08/02/2005 8:09:48 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (The pursuit of life, liberty, and higher tax revenue (amended by the supreme 5).)
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To: newzjunkey

So you are saying you think it is better for her to be dead than to be raised without a mother? All this dad did was make sure she got a chance to live.


27 posted on 08/02/2005 8:09:50 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: newzjunkey

You've mentioned "natural order" twice in your posts. I assume then if you ever have a heart attack or are in an accident you'd want "natural order" to run its course.


28 posted on 08/02/2005 8:16:17 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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To: newzjunkey

It is the right of the charitable person to give their money as they see fit. It is not our right to tell them they cannot dontate to this cause!

I didn't see anywhere that said the insurance was medicaid or medicare. It is most likely the insurance used was privately paid for by the husband...if so, why then shouldn't he be allowed to collect on it?


29 posted on 08/02/2005 8:16:48 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: newzjunkey

Medical technology has reached a point where even preemies this small have a decent chance at normal development. However, if the plan here had been to deliver the baby at this stage, I'd agree that it was unwise, and carried undue risk of doing more harm than good. However, the plan, which wasn't unrealistic, was that the mother could be kept going longer, so as to deliver the baby when it was the point of serious risk for long term problems -- which one might reasonably have assumed would have been the mother's wish. Apparently the mother's condition recently deteriorated, and they had to deliver the baby earlier than planned.


30 posted on 08/02/2005 8:22:15 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: trussell

Even if she was on medicaid I would be ok with investing in life. So much of our taxes dollars are spent without giving us a choice on death.


31 posted on 08/02/2005 8:23:05 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Friend of thunder

Please, do you: enlighten me.


32 posted on 08/02/2005 8:23:24 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: CindyDawg

I would too Cindy...the other poster just seemed to have an issue with it being paid for by others. It looks to me that the father paid a premium for the insurance and was due the right to collect!


33 posted on 08/02/2005 8:24:53 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: CO Gal

Absolutely heartwrenching. Prayers for all in this family.


34 posted on 08/02/2005 8:27:12 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: trussell

She evidently was a researcher. Her own insurance may have been providing some coverage.


35 posted on 08/02/2005 8:28:32 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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"This is a perversion of the natural order of things by a selfish family and their deceased daughter."

WOW what a warped opinion. You need prayers more than they do.

36 posted on 08/02/2005 8:30:28 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: CindyDawg

Legitimate claim if that is the case too...

I have a real problem when some people would rather have a child (or other innocent) die, just because the cost of treatment might take a fraction of a penny from their own pocket!


37 posted on 08/02/2005 8:35:45 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: newzjunkey

Our great grand daughter was 12 weeks early. She is doing great although it will take until she is 3 to catch up growth wise.


38 posted on 08/02/2005 8:36:37 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: CO Gal

According to U.S. law the mother had no right to life should her NOK claim she'd want to die under these circumstances; and the baby wasn't supposed to be human until months later. As it's written, God will not be mocked.


39 posted on 08/02/2005 8:38:23 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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"As it is the girl is horribly tiny and the chances of her being completely healthy and without complications are probably not high."

Thanks for the medical prognosis, doctor Kevorkian. But many people are born unhealthy or with complications. And those who are not will inescapably develop health issues and 'complications' at some time in their life. So what?

40 posted on 08/02/2005 8:43:55 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: trussell

I came here expecting a sad about the mom but joyful about the baby thread. I should have known better.


41 posted on 08/02/2005 8:48:34 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CO Gal

She's dead...time to get over it and move on with your life.


42 posted on 08/02/2005 8:50:51 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: CindyDawg

Me too Cindy...there are always those who have to create their own special kind of chaos


43 posted on 08/02/2005 8:55:16 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: newzjunkey

What would be sick and ghoulish is if the wife had been impregnated after going into a coma. This is not giving up on a life just begun and bringing joy out of sorrow.


44 posted on 08/02/2005 8:59:22 PM PDT by skr (Almighty God, thank you for the liberty you have bestowed upon this nation.)
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To: newzjunkey

Actually the baby will probably do very well and be healthy. Many premature babies are now born at very, very small birthweights and do just fine. I'm not sure where the 'selfishness' is that you mention, or did I read something incorrectly?


45 posted on 08/02/2005 9:09:13 PM PDT by hardworking (Save money on redecorating the White House - elect Hillary and maybe she'll bring the stuff back)
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To: Blzbba

My first reaction was sympathy for this poor child who'll in all liklihood grow up without a mother.

Well, I had a mother but still grew up without one, so having a loving family will probably serve her just fine.


46 posted on 08/02/2005 9:10:36 PM PDT by hardworking (Save money on redecorating the White House - elect Hillary and maybe she'll bring the stuff back)
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To: Brad's Gramma; Texas Termite; M0sby; All
Prayers that this tiny baby will grow and flourish like our very own Texas Termite, who weighed only 1 lb 9.4 oz when he was born and just celebrated his 2nd birthday.

Prayer Request for A Tiny Baby

And prayers for the father, who is dealing with overwhelming grief and joy at the same time. May the Lord give him strength and comfort, patience and fortitude!

47 posted on 08/02/2005 9:21:28 PM PDT by kayak (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: newzjunkey

You're wrong.


48 posted on 08/02/2005 9:24:16 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: CO Gal; Texas Termite; LaDivaLoca; wingnuts'nbolts; manna; Okies love Dubya 2; Fawnn; ...

Logan's Prayer Warriors...remember the baby and the Mommy we were praying for?

Susan Anne Catherine Torres needs a Logan miracle!!

kayak...THANKS for the ping!!


49 posted on 08/02/2005 9:25:52 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: kayak

Amen!


50 posted on 08/02/2005 9:29:33 PM PDT by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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