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'Three Stooges' Action Lands Boy in Court
Yahoo News & Mail Tribune ^ | August 8, 2005

Posted on 08/07/2005 9:58:33 PM PDT by lunarbicep

'Three Stooges' Action Lands Boy in Court

A 15-year-old boy who pinched and twisted the nipples of a 13-year-old has been sentenced to three days of community service for harassment.

David Thumler, 15, said the "titty-twister" was just horseplay. The mother of 13-year-old Matthew Cox counters that the incident was humiliating for her son, who saw it as an assault from an older, bigger bully.

"They're not friends," she said. "If he was my son's friend, it would be a different thing," said Bobby Cox.

In addition to the community service, Thumler has been ordered to pay a $67 fine and the misdemeanor has been placed on his permanent record. He can request to have it removed when he turns 18.

Ken Chapman, a Jackson County juvenile probation supervisor, said Oregon law defines physical harassment as "offensive physical touching."

That includes such adolescent antics as "wet-willies," "wedgies," "swirlies," "noogies" and all other forms of "Three Stooges" behavior, Chapman said.

According to David, the two boys were in line at a local deli when Matthew jokingly made an embarrassing remark to the female clerk about David. In retaliation, David counterattacked with the "titty-twister," the 15-year-old said.

"It's a thing of camaraderie," David said. "If he's going to assume our friendship is on that level, then so am I."

A lawyer hired by the 15-year-old's family called the juvenile court's actions "Orwellian."

"They call this 'baby assault,'" said Michael Kellington, a criminal defense attorney in Medford, hired by the family.

Even Bobby Cox said she was surprised to hear that her husbands' call to Gold Hill police resulted in court time for the boy. "Nobody informed me it would be a full-blown trial," she said.

According to Kellington, the incident was blown out of proportion in part because David's mother refused to let him show up for an initial hearing in juvenile court. Christine Alford, David's mother, said she did not let her son attend the hearing because she had seen photos of teenagers in handcuffs on the county's Web site.

Kellington said that Alford's refusal to let David go upped the ante and brought down "unfair, Draconian measures" upon her son. What should have been a discussion between first-time-offender and a representative of the juvenile justice system became a court trial.

"The mom is understandably fearful," said Kellington. "You shouldn't retaliate for the decision of a parent upon the child."

Chapman, the juvenile probation supervisor, said the mother should have known better.

"'Hearing' doesn't mean 'taking into custody,'" he said. "When we take someone into custody, we don't make appointments. If there's a consequence for not coming in informally, well, that's one they chose."

 


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To: singletrack

A good sharp kick in the ankles sounds like it would be in order. A slap? That's sissy.


41 posted on 08/08/2005 4:04:38 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
No chance of seeing a titty twister in any episode. A pineapple with a string attached to it, yes.

That made me laugh out loud! Ah, there aren't enough pineapples on strings in movies anymore.

42 posted on 08/08/2005 4:13:35 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: McBuff
The judge's ruling is indicative of the heinous nature of the titty-twister. Unlike the double-finger eye poke, which can be neutralized by the counter-move of placing the hand vertically flush with the nose and perpendicular with the face, the titty-twister has no known countermove. Thus, a more stiffer sentence for its use is warranted.

Very true! Also, the Stooges (and liking or hating thereof) is one of the most reliable gender signifiers known to science.

43 posted on 08/08/2005 4:17:05 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: Fresh Wind
Sorry, "Indian burns" (we called them Indian rope burns) are out of the question now.

In my day and place, they were called "snake burns." If one was an Indian giver, one might get snake-burned in return.

44 posted on 08/08/2005 4:39:16 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: lunarbicep

Teenagers ought to be able to resolve these types of issues without parental interference. No wonder there seems to be more and more 29 year old children still living at home with mommy and daddy.


45 posted on 08/08/2005 4:43:48 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: vpintheak
there used to be a time when people actually took pride and stuck up for themselves, even if it meant getting their butts kicked.

You were never smaller than everyone else or a geek, were you? Picked on daily? Dreading going to school every day? I mean, yes it helped form my character, but I could have done without it. And I think it is up to the authorities to get bullies early.

46 posted on 08/08/2005 4:44:24 AM PDT by Shazbot29 (Light a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day; light him on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: lunarbicep

Gee, to think I could have had Garry Graham thrown in the slammer.

He never twisted anything... he just beat the crap out of me periodically.

On second thought, no, I couldn't have. That was the early to mid-sixties. Society was a bit saner then.

Dan


47 posted on 08/08/2005 4:46:10 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: lunarbicep
Thumler has been ordered to pay a $67 fine

$33.50 per nipple sounds a little extreme for me.

48 posted on 08/08/2005 5:27:29 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: singletrack

LOL!


49 posted on 08/08/2005 6:59:12 PM PDT by spinestein (The facts fairly and honestly presented, truth will take care of itself.)
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To: lunarbicep

If they arrested all of us and charged us with assault as kids who pulled three stoges moves on each other, well, we would have been an entire generation of crimminals.


50 posted on 08/08/2005 8:30:13 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Zack Attack
What's the statute of limitations on a wedgie?

Atomic or regular ?
51 posted on 08/08/2005 8:31:49 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Shazbot29

Yes I certainly was. I have scars on my nose and betweeen my eyes from an accident when I was a baby. They aren't so bad now, but when I was younger they were bad, I was also a runt. I got severly picked on up until 8th grade until I grew up and got athletic. When moving on to HS I still had the scars and the kids were bigger than me. Smae story all over. I faught back and earned respect. I also spent many evening crying because of the torture I was put through. I said in my first post that I was speaking from experience, and I am.


52 posted on 08/08/2005 10:04:48 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: McBuff
This is of course relative to the cross sectional area of the offensive nature of the abuse divided by the relative feelings of the offended. This is compounded by the relative composure of the courts to the nth power multiplied by the variable Z.

To put it another way, the culture of moral relativism in the hands of an out of control court system will always create bad law. I am surprised they did not take the parents home, all of their savings, and put the little titty-twister in a cell with Bubba the Animal. There is no moderation for such parents and no example rooted in strong moral values available for a generation destined to face a train ride to disaster around every corner.
53 posted on 08/08/2005 11:01:35 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: ApplegateRanch

I AM SURE THAT YOU DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE TO BACK UP YOUR WORDS HERE, BUT WHEN DID I PUBLICLY SAY I WAS A TROUBLE MAKER?

I REALLY CAN'T APOLOGIZE THAT I CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, LIKE TAKING 2 DIRTY COPS OFF THE STREET, PERMANENTLY, OR SAVING THE TAXPAYERS OVER $250,OOO JUST IN OVER WATER CHARGES. IF THE COST OF DOING THAT IS TO BECOME THE 'LAUGHING STOCK' TO THE ILL-INFORMED, LIKE YOURSELF, SO BE IT, EVER WONDER WHY YOU END UP WITH DICKLESS REPRESENTING YOU IN EVERY ASPECT OF GOVERNMENT? LOOK AT YOUR DONKEY FACE IN THE MIRROR FOR THE ANSWER.
THERE WAS NO PRELIMINARY HEARING THAT WAS MISSED. SO YOU JUST MADE THAT UP.
DAVID WAS BAR MITZVAH AT 13 AND MAKES HIS OWN DECISIONS. HE WANTED HIS NAME CLEARED.

THE EVENT WAS ORIGNALLY SENT FROM THE GHPD TO JUVENILE AS A NON CRIMINAL INCIDENT. IT ESCALATED WITHIN THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT TO A CRIME BECAUSE DAVID DECLIEND TO GO IN FOR A VOLUNTARY EXAMINATION AND OPTED TO TRY AND CLEAR HIS NAME BEFORE A JUDGE. HE HAD WORKED ALL SUMMER CHIPPING PAINT TO PAY THE $700 ATTORNEY BILL. AMONGST OTHER THINGS TODAY WE LEARNED THAT THE COX BOY ROUTINELY PUNCHES NEIGHBOR KIDS SMALLER THAN HIM IN THE CROTCH. NO SURPRISE. THE FATHER HAS FILED NUMEROUS CHARGES AGAINST DOZENS OF NEIGHBORS MOSTLY OVER HIS BOY WHO HE HAS REALLY MADE INTO A FREAK. DAVID WAS CAUGHT OFF GUARD TREATING THE BOY THE SAME WAY THAT NORMAL BOYS TREAT EACH OTHER. THE BOY IS A LIAR AND WAS CAUGHT LYING ON THE WITNESS STAND SAYING THAT HE WAS ALSO PUNCHED IN THE STOMACH, HAD HIS CAR VANDALIZED AND OTHER WILD ACCUSATIONS, HIS TESTIMONY IS THE BASIS OF A COMPLAINT GOING BEFORE THE BAR AGAINST MIK SMITH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY. SMITH HIMSELF DID NOT BELIEVE HIS OWN WITNESS IN THE END.
DAVID HIMSELF IS ABOUT AS FAR AWAY FROM A BULLY AS YOU COULD IMAGINE. IN 4TH AND 5TH GRADE HE VOLUNTEERED HIS TIME TO TRAIN AS A TUTOR FOR SLOWER KIDS AND THEN VOLUNTEERED TO OVER TWO YEARS DOING THE SAME. HE IS VERY HIGHLY REGARDED AMONGST BOTH TEACHERS AND KIDS AS FAIR AND HONEST. YES, HE DOES PLACE A VALUE ON HIS NAME AND REPUTAION AND THEREFORE THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH TRYING TO DEFEND, AND I SUPPORT HIM ALL THE WAY.
APPLEGATE RANCH, TEACH YOUR OWN KIDS TO GROVEL AND TUCK THEIR TAILS BETWEEN THEIR LEGS, I'LL TEACH MY KIDS NOT TO BE COWARDS OR TO HESITATE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE PREDICTABLE CENSURE OF THE WITLESS P-NUT GALLERY.


54 posted on 08/10/2005 11:08:27 PM PDT by Christine Alford (CHRISTINE ALFORD)
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To: lunarbicep

A lawyer hired by the 15-year-old's family called the juvenile court's actions "Orwellian."..........oh, a WISEGUY!!!


55 posted on 08/10/2005 11:13:25 PM PDT by isom35
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To: Christine Alford

To: ApplegateRanch
I AM SURE THAT YOU DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE TO BACK UP YOUR WORDS HERE, BUT WHEN DID I PUBLICLY SAY I WAS A TROUBLE MAKER?

I REALLY CAN'T APOLOGIZE THAT I CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, LIKE TAKING 2 DIRTY COPS OFF THE STREET, PERMANENTLY, OR SAVING THE TAXPAYERS OVER $250,OOO JUST IN OVER WATER CHARGES. IF THE COST OF DOING THAT IS TO BECOME THE 'LAUGHING STOCK' TO THE ILL-INFORMED, LIKE YOURSELF, SO BE IT, EVER WONDER WHY YOU END UP WITH DICKLESS REPRESENTING YOU IN EVERY ASPECT OF GOVERNMENT? LOOK AT YOUR DONKEY FACE IN THE MIRROR FOR THE ANSWER.
THERE WAS NO PRELIMINARY HEARING THAT WAS MISSED. SO YOU JUST MADE THAT UP.
DAVID WAS BAR MITZVAH AT 13 AND MAKES HIS OWN DECISIONS. HE WANTED HIS NAME CLEARED.

THE EVENT WAS ORIGNALLY SENT FROM THE GHPD TO JUVENILE AS A NON CRIMINAL INCIDENT. IT ESCALATED WITHIN THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT TO A CRIME BECAUSE DAVID DECLIEND TO GO IN FOR A VOLUNTARY EXAMINATION AND OPTED TO TRY AND CLEAR HIS NAME BEFORE A JUDGE. HE HAD WORKED ALL SUMMER CHIPPING PAINT TO PAY THE $700 ATTORNEY BILL. AMONGST OTHER THINGS TODAY WE LEARNED THAT THE COX BOY ROUTINELY PUNCHES NEIGHBOR KIDS SMALLER THAN HIM IN THE CROTCH. NO SURPRISE. THE FATHER HAS FILED NUMEROUS CHARGES AGAINST DOZENS OF NEIGHBORS MOSTLY OVER HIS BOY WHO HE HAS REALLY MADE INTO A FREAK. DAVID WAS CAUGHT OFF GUARD TREATING THE BOY THE SAME WAY THAT NORMAL BOYS TREAT EACH OTHER. THE BOY IS A LIAR AND WAS CAUGHT LYING ON THE WITNESS STAND SAYING THAT HE WAS ALSO PUNCHED IN THE STOMACH, HAD HIS CAR VANDALIZED AND OTHER WILD ACCUSATIONS, HIS TESTIMONY IS THE BASIS OF A COMPLAINT GOING BEFORE THE BAR AGAINST MIK SMITH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY. SMITH HIMSELF DID NOT BELIEVE HIS OWN WITNESS IN THE END.
DAVID HIMSELF IS ABOUT AS FAR AWAY FROM A BULLY AS YOU COULD IMAGINE. IN 4TH AND 5TH GRADE HE VOLUNTEERED HIS TIME TO TRAIN AS A TUTOR FOR SLOWER KIDS AND THEN VOLUNTEERED TO OVER TWO YEARS DOING THE SAME. HE IS VERY HIGHLY REGARDED AMONGST BOTH TEACHERS AND KIDS AS FAIR AND HONEST. YES, HE DOES PLACE A VALUE ON HIS NAME AND REPUTAION AND THEREFORE THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH TRYING TO DEFEND, AND I SUPPORT HIM ALL THE WAY.
APPLEGATE RANCH, TEACH YOUR OWN KIDS TO GROVEL AND TUCK THEIR TAILS BETWEEN THEIR LEGS, I'LL TEACH MY KIDS NOT TO BE COWARDS OR TO HESITATE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE PREDICTABLE CENSURE OF THE WITLESS P-NUT GALLERY.




54 posted on 08/10/2005 11:08:27 PM PDT by Christine Alford (CHRISTINE ALFORD)
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56 posted on 08/10/2005 11:13:34 PM PDT by Christine Alford (CHRISTINE ALFORD)
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To: isom35

Why does the remark Orwelllian, make the lawyer a "wise guy"? It doesn't even compete with this one "We tried to calm him down with pepper spray" quoted from one of the Park rangers after they capped the guy at Crater Lake.


57 posted on 08/10/2005 11:17:37 PM PDT by Christine Alford (CHRISTINE ALFORD)
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To: ApplegateRanch

My name is David Thumler, if any one would like to ask me anything that isn't clear as to this ridiculous conviction, post here and I will reply whenever I can.


58 posted on 08/10/2005 11:40:22 PM PDT by Christine Alford (David Thumler)
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To: Christine Alford

"Wiseguy" is a thing Curly used to say once in a while. hey, what's with the caps in the above posts?


59 posted on 08/10/2005 11:50:57 PM PDT by isom35
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To: isom35
I don't need the caps but it is a surprise to see some unknown person "applegate ranch' shooting at me from the hip. I think the caps were used because I can use my name and he doesn't. I paid a high price for doing some radical things, like taking down a couple of dirty cops and a few other exposes, and 'applegate ranch's' comments were so atypical of the kind of sniping that you step in everyday, they are usually ill-informed and their carping generally consists of just "hee-haw' but their braying becomes a subtexts, an obstacle in itself. If you never put yourself out where you knew that the cost would be some measure of public ridicule, you won't know what I am talking about. But I guess the caps were as close as I could get to kicking him, like that little Mario kicks those turtle things in Mario Brothers.
60 posted on 08/11/2005 12:27:09 AM PDT by Christine Alford (Christine Alford)
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