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Fitting the Pieces Together--Able Danger, Jamie Gorelick & 9/11
The Strata-Sphere ^ | August 9, 2005 | Bronc1

Posted on 08/09/2005 8:43:08 PM PDT by Bronc1

...We do know that Able Danger made their report about four of the attackers in 2000. We do know the report was submitted and the request for action was denied. We do know the Gorelick policy ‘wall’ was in effect at the time. We do know Clinton was President and Dick Clark was terrorism guru. We do know 9-11 commission staffers were briefed on these events and 9-11 commissioners were not...

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Able Danger, Gorelick and 9-11 Searching around the web and reading some comments posted here it is clear some people have somehow been quite easily diverted by some simple diversionary tactics. In a response to a comment on my first post on this subject, it was quite simple to dismiss the completely ridiculous rationalization from this Slate article, which tried to compare acts of speculation with acts of record.

Slate attempts top dismiss the fact that a US intelligence group ID’d Atta and 3 other 9-11 terrorists in 2000 by comparing it to speculation by Rep Weldon on the where-abouts of Bin Laden. We do not know where Bin Laden is and ’sources’ can be questioned, that is obvious.

But we also do know who attacked us on 9-11. We do know that Able Danger made their report about four of the attackers in 2000. We do know the report was submitted and the request for action was denied. We do know the Gorelick policy ‘wall’ was in effect at the time. We do know Clinton was President and Dick Clark was terrorism guru. We do know 9-11 commission staffers were briefed on these events and 9-11 commissioners were not.

These are facts of record - not speculation. So unless someone wants to prove the record is wrong I find the Slate excuses irrelevant - to say the least.

But let’s establish a time line here.

First off, from Capt Ed we know the Gorelick ‘wall’ was imposed prior to 1999 - so it was in effect when these events transpired.

From the NYTimes we see that Able Danger was set up in 1999

He said the team had been established by the Special Operations Command in 1999, under a classified directive issued by Gen. Hugh Shelton, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to assemble information about Al Qaeda networks around the world.

At this same time the Clinton administration (and its NSC) was circulating a plan to disrupt Al Qaeda operations, as we see from a timely NRO article by Mark Levin. This is Levin’s quote from AG Ashscroft when first lowered the boom on Gorelick and Clark

[T]he Commission should study carefully the National Security Council plan to disrupt the al Qaeda network in the U.S. that our government failed to implement fully seventeen months before September 11. … In March 2000, the review warns the prior Administration of a substantial al Qaeda network and affiliated foreign terrorist presence within the U.S., capable of supporting additional terrorist attacks here.

Furthermore, fully seventeen months before the September 11 attacks, the review recommends disrupting the al Qaeda network and terrorist presence here using immigration violations, minor criminal infractions, and tougher visa and border controls.

Does anyone think with this kind of security alert in place in March the notice of an AQ cell in NY would be ignored in September?

But first let’s bring in the Sandy Berger angle just to establish it within this overall timeline. According to the Washington Post and Dick Clark (yes, I know he prefers Richard Clark) we have this timeline for the memo’s Burger burglared:

The missing copies, according to Breuer and their author, Richard A. Clarke, the counterterrorism chief in the Clinton administration and early in President Bush’s administration, were versions of after-action reports recommending changes following threats of terrorism as 1999 turned to 2000. Clarke said he prepared about two dozen ideas for countering terrorist threats. The recommendations were circulated among Cabinet agencies, and various versions of the memo contained additions and refinements, Clarke said last night.

So these reports Burger destroyed were originally developed in the spring of 2000 at the latest. The problem is they could have been worked on for months and months, and reviewed for up to 6 months easily. So they could still be in circulation when Able Danger made its report. And this is reasonable given this other Washington Post article:

The document, written by former National Security Council terrorism expert Richard A. Clarke, was an “after-action review” prepared in early 2000 detailing the administration’s actions to thwart terrorist attacks during the millennium celebration. It contained considerable discussion about the administration’s awareness of the rising threat of attacks on U.S. soil.

You will recall from above that the administration was working the Al Qaeda threat from March 2000 onward - so it is not inconceivable the memo evolved throughout this period and commenting continued into the time of the Able Danger report.

From this source, we find out when the detection of the ‘Brooklyn Cell’ transpired and when the report was made.

In September 2000, one year before the Al Qaeda attacks of 9/11, a U.S. Army military intelligence program, known as “Able Danger,” identified a terrorist cell based in Brooklyn, NY, one of whose members was 9/11 ringleader Mohammed Atta, and recommended to their military superiors that the FBI be called in to “take out that cell,”…

The NYTimes has it slightly differently

In the summer of 2000, the military team, known as Able Danger, prepared a chart that included visa photographs of the four men and recommended to the military’s Special Operations Command that the information be shared with the Federal Bureau of Investigation…

…”Ultimately, Able Danger was going to give decision makers options for taking out Al Qaeda targets,” the former defense intelligence official said.

He said that he delivered the chart in summer 2000 to the Special Operations Command headquarters in Tampa, Fla., and said that it had been based on information from unclassified sources and government records, including those of the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

Which puts the Able Danger Report right on top of these other events.

What is missing is when did the DoD lawyers make the determination to drop Atta and his 3 compatriots, and who in the administration was involved in that decision.

Interestingly enough, around 6 months or so after their report on Atta the group was disbanded in Clinton’s last federal budget year

A small group of intelligence employees ran “Able Danger” from the fall of 1999 until February 2001 - just seven months before the terrorist attacks - when the operation was axed.

I think we need to know when the Able Danger report was made and when the decision came down to let Atta go. We need to understand how far up the report went (which would seem pretty high given the Clinton administrations focus on AQ in country) and who participated in the decision to back off Atta.

And all the personal smears against Weldon are a diversion. One has to wonder why they are necessary, but here is Weldon’s floor speech to the House and some interesting snippets

Two weeks after 9/11, my friends from the Army’s Information Dominance Center in cooperation with special ops brought me a chart.

This chart, Mr. Speaker, this chart. Two weeks after 9/11, I took the basic information in this chart down to the White House. I had asked for a meeting with Steve Hadley, who at that time was Deputy National Security Advisor. The chart was smaller. It was 2 feet by 3 feet, but the same information was in the center.

Steve Hadley looked at the chart and said, Congressman, where did you get that chart from? I said, I got it from the military. I said, This is the process; this is the result of the process that I was pitching since 1999 to our government to implement, but the CIA kept saying we do not need it.

Steve Hadley said, Congressman, I am going to take this chart, and I am going to show it to the man. The man that he meant, Mr. Speaker, was the President of the United States. I said, Mr. Hadley, you mean you have not seen something like this before from the CIA, this chart of al Qaeda worldwide and in the U.S.? And he said, No, Congressman. So I gave him the chart.

Now, Mr. Speaker, what is interesting in this chart of al Qaeda, and you cannot see this from a distance, but right here in the center is the name of the leader of the New York cell. And that name is very familiar to the people of America. That name is Mohammed Atta, the leader of the 9/11 attack against us. So prior to 9/11, this military system that the CIA said we did not need and could not do actually gave us the information that identified Mohammed Atta’s cell in New York. And with Mohammed Atta they identified two of the other terrorists with them.

But I learned something new, Mr. Speaker, over the past several weeks and months. I have talked to some of the military intelligence officers who produced this document, who worked on this effort. And I found something out very startling, Mr. Speaker. Not only did our military identify the Mohammed Atta cell; our military made a recommendation in September of 2000 to bring the FBI in to take out that cell, the cell of Mohammed Atta. So now, Mr. Speaker, for the first time I can tell our colleagues that one of our agencies not only identified the New York cell of Mohammed Atta and two of the terrorists, but actually made a recommendation to bring the FBI in to take out that cell. And they made that recommendation because Madeleine Albright had declared that al Qaeda, an international terrorist organization, and the military units involved here felt they had jurisdiction to go to the FBI.

Why, then, did they not proceed? That is a question that needs to be answered, Mr. Speaker. I have to ask, Mr. Speaker, with all the good work that the 9/11 Commission did, why is there nothing in their report about able danger? Why is there no mention of the work that able danger did against al Qaeda? Why is there no mention, Mr. Speaker, of a recommendation in September of 2000 to take out Mohammed Atta’s cell which would have detained three of the terrorists who struck us?

I want these questions answered too - and without diversionary static from apologists.

And I am by no means calling the MinuteMan an apologist - but he does have a good opposing case to make here.

Posted by AJStrata on Tuesday, August 9th, 2005 at 4:40 pm.

1 posted on 08/09/2005 8:43:15 PM PDT by Bronc1
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To: Bronc1

Clinton Lied Americans Died.


2 posted on 08/09/2005 8:50:12 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Bronc1
The 9/11 commission was a farce and cover up.
3 posted on 08/09/2005 8:52:06 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton =RAT Titantic)
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To: Bronc1

The Sink-emperor also handed a 42,000 page report on the state of US intelligence to Bush. al Quaida was never mentioned. OBL was mentioned once!


4 posted on 08/09/2005 8:58:00 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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To: Echo Talon

Jamie Gorelick, a pox be upon you and your blood stained hands.


5 posted on 08/09/2005 9:01:21 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Don't forget her mentor, Janet El Renyo who made this kind of situation 1000 times worse with the blunder in Waco!!!


6 posted on 08/09/2005 9:05:21 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Iraq! Our exit strategy is... VICTORY!!!)
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To: Bronc1

So these were the documents which Sandy Burglar stole ..?? and shredded ..?? Just to save their blessed assurance ..??

And .. with Gorelick on the committee .. they were sure to keep out the fact that HER MEMO kept other agencies from knowing this information.

I'll tell ya .. it's a wonder America survived this "corrupt, lying bunch".


7 posted on 08/09/2005 9:09:12 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: SierraWasp

There's a special spot in Hell reserved for people like these.


8 posted on 08/09/2005 9:10:49 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Bronc1

bttt


9 posted on 08/09/2005 9:10:55 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: CyberAnt

The only thing I can figure is W is afraid the government would collapse if the truth about the RATS and 9/11 ever came out. Think of all the bad things that have happened out of Boston. Pulling off 9/11 was an inside job.


10 posted on 08/09/2005 9:12:43 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Bronc1

BUMP for morning.


11 posted on 08/09/2005 9:13:09 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: Bronc1

Thanks for the post. Looks like once water spills over the damn it is not able to be recovered, that is unless it might help democrats in some way. Jamie, Sandy, Dicky, will be protected. I find it interesting that it was a military intel group that pegged Atta, and nobody wanted to listen.


12 posted on 08/09/2005 9:16:14 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Bronc1
Sec. Rumsfeld at his DOD briefing today was asked this:

Q: Sir, can you shed any light on the story in The New York Times today that in the year 2000 there was a U.S. military team known as Able Danger that identified four of the 9/11 hijackers a year before, went to the Special Operations Command and asked that that be shared with the FBI, and that that did not happen? Can you clarify any details about that story?

SEC. RUMSFELD: I can't. I have no idea. I've never heard of it until this morning, and I understand that our folks are trying to look into it and see what they can find out for you.

I hope Sec, Rumsfeld finds the answer and someone gets it posted here.

13 posted on 08/09/2005 9:28:32 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: John Lenin

"... W is afraid the government would collapse if the truth about the RATS and 9/11 ever came out."


LOL! I don't think so! If the govt didn't collapse when the Monica/perjury/impeachment happened .. then it won't collapse.

With all the leftovers from the Clintons still in the govt - it's been their job to hide all this stuff. I'm wondering if this new information is a result of the Berger indictment .. and if it was leaked on purpose to expose what Berger was trying to steal ..??


14 posted on 08/09/2005 9:29:19 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Bronc1
The main reason the dems and anti-Americans scream that there was no connection between Saddam and OBL and terrorism and 9/11 is because they know that Willie knew what was going on long ago. Willie and his surrogates were taking Iraqi oil money (vouchers) and Saudi money to keep missing OBL. It was a very profitable and harmless game while Willie was in office. But, the game changed once Gore lost. Willie's former business associates launched 9/11.

Monica (how easy would it have been for a corrupt Reno/Freeh FBI to say it WASN'T Willie's DNA) was simply a diversion (the scumbags never believed that there would be honest men in Congress willing to launch an impeachment). The dems know that proof against Willie is proof against Hillie and so they, at every turn, have blocked ANY possiblity to develop evidence that Willie got Iraqi oil money (who bought pardons?). It is evidence of Willie's guilt that Berger was stealing. Willie's guilt is why Foster had to die!

15 posted on 08/09/2005 9:31:16 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: Tacis

You are closer to the truth than anyone realizes. The story is probably worse than any of us could ever imagine.


16 posted on 08/09/2005 9:39:22 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: CyberAnt
So these were the documents which Sandy Burglar stole ..?? and shredded ..?? Just to save their blessed assurance ..??

So why, if we know this, did Berger walk?

17 posted on 08/09/2005 9:48:30 PM PDT by airborne
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To: airborne

So why, if we know this, did Berger walk?

For the same reason all Democrats walk.


18 posted on 08/09/2005 9:53:28 PM PDT by SoCalPol (More Died At Chappaquiddic than Guantanamo)
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To: CyberAnt

Berger better get a stiff sentence, and Gorelick ought to have never been permitted to sit on the commission.

The whole thing was a charade designed to go on the offensive against the Bush administration in an effort to defend the Klintoon administration. When Berger got caught, any Republican commissioner who denied the obvious political aim and bias during the hearings deserves to be shamed today more than ever.


19 posted on 08/09/2005 9:59:17 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Bronc1

bttt


20 posted on 08/09/2005 10:02:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Kryptonite

Berger got probation. He is free to help Hillary with her election campaign.


21 posted on 08/09/2005 10:02:28 PM PDT by airborne
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To: Tacis

I think that you've managed to connect a lot of dots.


22 posted on 08/09/2005 10:11:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: airborne

I remember now, what a friggin' slap on the wrist.


23 posted on 08/09/2005 10:15:06 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: airborne

Well .. I'm guessing Berger gave up some important information ..??


24 posted on 08/09/2005 10:24:37 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CyberAnt

You're a lot more optimistic than I am.


25 posted on 08/09/2005 10:26:07 PM PDT by airborne
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To: ncountylee
Jamie Gorelick, a pox be upon you and your blood stained hands

And why was "the Wall" erected in the first place?

....To thwart investigation of clinton and the DNC's corruption with the Chi-Coms.

Thank you, democrats, for making 9/11 possible....

26 posted on 08/09/2005 10:29:38 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Bronc1; Grampa Dave; Squantos; river rat; MadIvan; knighthawk; SJackson; Cindy; Eaker; Jeff Head
It's mind-blowing that Jamie "The Wall" Gorelick was on the 9-11 Commission, and that there was no mention of the Able Danger intelligence from 2000!!!!


27 posted on 08/09/2005 10:41:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Quiet cunveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyunt for Mzzzzzzzz Gorelick indeed huh !

The spin is in..... we won't have an easy time clearing facts from fiction.

Here's a grin fer ya !

http://www.whimsical-wits.com/fun_pages/taliban.htm


28 posted on 08/09/2005 10:58:21 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Squantos

Sounds like a plan!


29 posted on 08/09/2005 11:02:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: airborne

Well .. I have a lot of faith in GOD's ability to expose things that need exposing. Everything hidden will be revealed. It may not be your timetable .. but that's where faith comes in.


30 posted on 08/09/2005 11:08:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Travis McGee
Jamie Gorelick was on the 9/11 Commission SPECIFICALLY to make certain that no embarrassing/criminal revelations about the inept, corrupt, incompetent, terrorist romancing Clinton Administration was revealed..

She was there to PREVENT revelations of what REALLY allowed 9/11 to happen...

A POX on her sorry ass...and all those she protected..

Semper Fi
31 posted on 08/09/2005 11:23:03 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Bronc1
Is there any doubt that the United states of America ( as we knew Her) is hanging over an abyss by Her very fingernails, as the Gorelick's, Bergers, Clintons and other internal and external enemy's are stomping on Her hands?



32 posted on 08/10/2005 4:19:56 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: Tacis

If your theory is correct, then Vince Foster's cryptic suicide note, considered a phony by most of us, may have had some validity. He said that the country would never believe that it had all been a mistake, or something to that effect. He never explained what he was referring to, but they may all have known that an attack on the US was in the works.


33 posted on 08/10/2005 4:28:03 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: CyberAnt

#30..Amen!


34 posted on 08/10/2005 4:31:56 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: ncountylee
Just to fire you up a little more, a corporate entity that is wrapped up very tightly in the "oil for food" scandal is the French company Slumberger.

Jaimie Gorelick serves on their board of directors.

Regards,

(/wicked grin)

35 posted on 08/10/2005 4:52:52 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

And who is Halliburton's only real competitor?


36 posted on 08/10/2005 5:06:58 AM PDT by mathluv (Mercy shown to an evil man is cruelty to the innocent.)
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To: mathluv

Bingo!


37 posted on 08/10/2005 5:11:52 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: CyberAnt
"I'll tell ya .. it's a wonder America survived this "corrupt, lying bunch".

And all put in place; to assure that this 'corrupt, lying bunch' will return to 'rule'; once again.

Suspect Hillary is not too happy with this pot beginning to bubble.

38 posted on 08/10/2005 6:00:39 AM PDT by cricket (color me. . .Republican)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
"Just to fire you up a little more, a corporate entity that is wrapped up very tightly in the "oil for food" scandal is the French company Slumberger. . .Jaimie Gorelick serves on their board of directors."

Thanks for that gem. . .

There has never been a doubt in my mind. . .that OFF reached the pockets of the Clinton's. . .and their foreign 'savings' accounts. . .first Marc Rich. ..and now Jamie. . .more to come, for sure.

Simply amazing; but NOT. . .really.

39 posted on 08/10/2005 6:07:21 AM PDT by cricket (color me. . .Republican)
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To: CyberAnt

I am guessing that the leaks are from the 'other Demrats' who are not Clintonista's. . .and do not want to see Hillary gripping the reigns of power. . .and perhaps a few Repubs; who are not included in 'Hillary's personal, hi-jacked file of FBI records '. . .


40 posted on 08/10/2005 6:12:03 AM PDT by cricket (color me. . .Republican)
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To: CyberAnt

What was soooooo urgent that Berger would give up his career? But MORE IMPORTANTLY.....who told BERGER to do the dirty work?? It could only come from the top....and that means Bubba and his Partner in crime....Hillary.


41 posted on 08/10/2005 6:22:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Bronc1
"Why, then, did they not proceed? That is a question that needs to be answered, Mr. Speaker. I have to ask, Mr. Speaker, with all the good work that the 9/11 Commission did, why is there nothing in their report about able danger? Why is there no mention of the work that able danger did against al Qaeda? Why is there no mention, Mr. Speaker, of a recommendation in September of 2000 to take out Mohammed Atta’s cell which would have detained three of the terrorists who struck us?"

Bump for the 'challenge' here.

So appreciate Fox News carrying this story; I hope they 'dog it'; do not know what CNN, et al are doing. . .

42 posted on 08/10/2005 6:22:17 AM PDT by cricket (color me. . .Republican)
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To: SierraWasp
Don't forget her mentor, Janet El Renyo who made this kind of situation 1000 1,000,000 times worse with the blunder[s] in Waco!!! ...and OKC!!!!!
43 posted on 08/10/2005 7:07:18 AM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yep! The Clintons always sacrifice those who have been loyal to them. Berger should have told them to fly a kite.


44 posted on 08/10/2005 7:45:03 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Jimmy Valentine; SunkenCiv

Gorelick should be arrested and led away in hancuffs TODAY.
Imagine the panic in Washington DC if that happened!


45 posted on 08/10/2005 7:53:05 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: G.Mason

"Is there any doubt that the United states of America ( as we knew Her) is hanging over an abyss by Her very fingernails ..."


Well .. I believe it's just the opposite. I believe the socialists/communists/democrats are the ones "hanging over an abyss" - but the media is trying to make us believe we're the losers .. and we're not.


46 posted on 08/10/2005 7:54:58 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: cricket

Yep. I'm still waiting for the Marc Rich / Oil for food link to be revealed....


47 posted on 08/10/2005 7:54:58 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Bronc1

bump


48 posted on 08/10/2005 7:58:08 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from Earth. Liberals are from Uranus.(c))
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To: Bronc1

If this thing has legs, there is/was someone at the Pentagon who quashed this......and who is/was VERY LOYAL to Bubba.


49 posted on 08/10/2005 7:59:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Bronc1
Weldon needs to be director of the FB&I.

It makes sense to me that Berger destroyed the able danger links.

50 posted on 08/10/2005 8:06:34 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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