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ACLU backs Wiccan suit
The Washington Times ^ | 8-10-05 | Dionne Walker

Posted on 08/10/2005 11:25:50 AM PDT by JZelle

RICHMOND -- Civil liberties lawyers have appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court to allow a Wiccan priestess to offer prayers before a public board's meetings. Cynthia Simpson was turned down in 2002 when she asked the Chesterfield Board of Supervisors to add her name to the list of people who customarily open the board's meetings with a religious invocation. The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals sided with the suburban Richmond county. In their petition, received by the court yesterday, American Civil Liberties Union lawyers accuse the federal appeals court of trying to "obscure with legal smoke and mirrors" Chesterfield's preference for mainline religions. "Although Establishment Clause jurisprudence may be beset with conflicting tests, uncertain outcomes and ongoing debate, one principle has never been compromised ... that one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another," ACLU attorneys wrote in their 13-page filing. County officials said they had the right to limit the prayers to Judeo-Christian beliefs and religions based on a single god.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aclu; chesterfield; churchandstate; lawsuit; vaaclu; virginia; wiccan
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To: Modernman

my arguement are based on past supreme court decisions (specifically the surf and turf religion case) where accomodation is limited.

She is free to dow what she wants, she is just not free to impose it upon others. It is not a question of unpopular, it is a question of common sense.


201 posted on 08/11/2005 8:52:29 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Whatever the case, if you're looking for me to disavow public prayer then you're just wasting your time.

My bad. I realize I wasn't clear about that but when I was talking about 'public prayer,' I was referring to people who pray loudly to show the public they are praying - not just regular people who happen to pray in public. Here we have a group of politicians gathered for political purposes praying together when they know that the public is looking at them. It just seems to me that a bunch of politicians praying in this context would be more like those praying loudly for the sake of the public rather than people praying because they are truly interested in prayer. And as I mentioned, if they really wanted just that, why can't they just pray privately?
202 posted on 08/11/2005 8:57:03 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Dawsonville_Doc

Wow...well I'll be. I always seek to learn something new every day - mission accomplished for the 11th of August.


203 posted on 08/11/2005 9:20:33 AM PDT by GLH3IL (What's good for America is bad for liberals.)
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To: GLH3IL

Heh, check out the listings for Illinois... 79.


204 posted on 08/11/2005 9:25:04 AM PDT by Dawsonville_Doc (Moving to NC as fast as I can...)
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To: FormerLib

They are allowing preferred faiths access to the public meetings while disallowing faiths they don't like. That's counter to the First Amendment - establishment of a *type* of faith if not an outright faith.

It's as though they allowed Islamic and Jewish speakers but refused Christian speakers the same access - would you really be okay with that?


205 posted on 08/11/2005 9:28:54 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Dawsonville_Doc

Now you are just trying to depress me...shame shame shame...lol


206 posted on 08/11/2005 9:33:31 AM PDT by GLH3IL (What's good for America is bad for liberals.)
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To: Dawsonville_Doc

Actually, I know a few folks that are involved with Wiccan....nice folks actually...a little odd at times, never discussed their "faith" with them much actually..had no idea there were that many covens in IL. One wiccan I have an aquaintence with lives in rural Marshall County, Illinois....I'm not believer in the occult but there is definitely something going on with that young lady...


207 posted on 08/11/2005 9:36:43 AM PDT by GLH3IL (What's good for America is bad for liberals.)
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To: FormerLib
Cite where the board spends one dime promoting a religious doctrine. Do the folks giving the benediction receive a stipend?

Well, aside from the incidentals (electricity, wages, etc., being consumed while the board is convened), this case has apparently been argued up to the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Does the county have a lawyer that works for free?

208 posted on 08/11/2005 9:37:13 AM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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To: exile

"As I said before, I'm just a guy who hates hippies."

Living in the past a little?

The only Wiccan I ever knew personally was a college vice president who wore business suits and made the kind of money I wish I were making. Didn't do srugs or sacrifice animals. Showered every day. And one of the best looking babes I've ever laid eyes on.


209 posted on 08/11/2005 9:47:39 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Gone GF

"Living in the past a little?"

The Hatred of Hippies knows no time or place. It burns in my heart like the fires of Hell itself.

I really, really can't stand hippies.


210 posted on 08/11/2005 11:33:25 AM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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