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Closure, World War II sub found under the sea (Final Resting Place for 85)
The Charlotte Observer ^ | Thu, Aug. 11, 2005 | KELLY KENNEDY

Posted on 08/12/2005 11:31:24 AM PDT by nickcarraway

In the ghostly blue lights of a video camera, sea snakes, squids and schools of blue and yellow fish swirl past five-inch battle guns of a World War II submarine 200 feet beneath the South China Sea.

"With all the fish and the coral covering the Lagarto, it's almost like someone put flowers on a grave," said Elizabeth Kenney-Augustine, whose grandfather, Bill Mabin of La Grange, Ill., was on the sub.

For decades, no human knew where to put flowers for the 86 men who disappeared with the U.S.S. Lagarto somewhere between Thailand and Australia shortly before World War II ended.

In May, a diving team, following the hints of fishermen telling tales of snagged nets, discovered the Lagarto in the Gulf of Thailand. Experts say this is the missing boat because it is believed to be the only American Balao class submarine sunk in the Gulf of Thailand during the war, and because Japanese records released after the war ended show Japanese sailors sank a sub in the area where the Lagarto disappeared.

"We believe the wreck to be the Lagarto," said Jamie Macleod, who, with the U.S. Navy's permission, dove down to look at the outside of the sub. Macleod and Stewart Oehl of the MV Trident dive boat in Thailand discovered the missing submarine.

Author Clive Cussler has spoken with the men about a documentary on the history of the Lagarto, as well as their discovery. U.S. Rep. Daniel Lipinski, D-Ill., has called on the U.S. Navy to confirm the sub's identity.

"We've been doing what we can to relate the importance of recognizing these brave crew members to the attention of the Navy," said Chris Ganschow, Lipinski's spokesman.

After talking with the family, Macleod took Kenney-Augustine and her brother, John Kenney Jr., off the shores of Thailand last week to read letters and poems from family members in the first burial ceremony the missing men have had.

On July 31, a diver tucked a dozen white roses into the conning tower, or attack center, of the U.S.S. Lagarto. Minutes later, the flowers had disappeared.

"We thought that was nice," said Kenney-Augustine, of Chicago's Wicker Park neighborhood. "Like they accepted our offering."

For 60 years, Mabin's daughter, Nancy Kenney of Lake Leelanau, Mich., wondered if her father had somehow come out of the war alive. She waited for him to be released from a prisoner-of-war camp. Or to appear on a remote island. Or to pop through the front door after a top-secret mission.

She knows the families of the other 85 men on board the submarine must have wondered the same things.

"From the letters between my mother and the other wives, I can see there was great confusion," Kenney said. "They were hoping their husbands were in prison camp. Imagine that - seeing that as the best-case scenario."

Kenney was 2 when her father was lost. She said her mother, Margaret Chambers, of Glen Arbor, Mich., was pleased to hear her husband had been found.

"He was the love of her life," Kenney said. "She's been shaken by this."

The U.S.S. Lagarto was one of 28 submarines built in Manitowac, Wis., and the Wisconsin Maritime Museum has adopted the submarine and created a memorial to it. According to the museum's history of the sub, it was tested in Lake Michigan.

It left Subic Bay in the Philippines on April 12, 1945 for the Siam Gulf, now the Gulf of Thailand, for its second trip.

U.S.S. Baya officers reported at the time that they were to rendezvous with the Lagarto to discuss plans to attack a Japanese convoy on May 3, 1945. At 1 a.m. May 4, 1945, the Japanese convoy drove off the Baya, but nothing was ever heard again from the Lagarto. It was supposed to dock in Australia at the end of May, but it never arrived.

In June 1945, Mabin's family received a letter saying he was missing in action. A year later, another letter arrived describing him as "presumed dead."

"This will give you a real glimpse into World War II," Kenney said. "This is what I grew up with. That's the last correspondence any of the families had with the Navy."

After the war ended, the Japanese released records showing the minelayer Hatsutaka sunk a sub at the same time and same place the Lagarto was believed to be during the war, but there was no confirmation.

Kenney's children grew up with Mabin's ghost. Every year on Memorial Day, John Kenney has searched the Internet for some sign of his grandfather.

"This year, I did a Google search, and someone had posted that it had been found," John Kenney said. "Two divers had found it. It's considered one of the Holy Grails of Asian diving because it's one of the only U.S. subs lost anywhere near the Gulf of Thailand."

Kenney said he immediately called her mother and asked if she were sitting down. After he told her, she began to cry.

"I went through so many emotions," Nancy Kenney said. "It's an odd feeling to grieve for someone 60 years after they're gone."

She began to contact the families of the missing men.

Kelan Spalding's brother R.B. Spalding of Springfield, Mo., was also on the Lagarto.

"My wife heard about it on the news and said, `Do you suppose that could be Bobby's sub?'" Spalding said. "But I thought it would be in deeper water."

Then he got the call from Nancy Kenney.

"I was 9 years old when it went down," he said. "I'm relieved to know exactly why and how and where. I hope they allow the divers to film it."

But he doesn't want anyone to go inside the sub.

And no one will. According to the U.S. Navy, all sunken U.S. ships are considered gravesites and are off-limits.

"Even if they wanted to, the divers couldn't get inside because their tanks are too big," Kenney-Augustine explained.

But Macleod said the divers don't want to go inside the submarine.

"We have no plans to explore the wreck," Macleod said. "We hope to be able to conduct non-intrusive filming only."

For the families, seeing the outside of the submarine has provided closure.

"I thought there would be a moment when they scraped the coral off and found letters: U.S.S. Lagarto," Kenney-Augustine said. "But it wasn't like that. We just sat above as they dove beneath, and I thought, `How wonderful.' It was similar to going to a cemetery and visiting a loved one who has passed and standing over his grave."

The brother and sister team did not participate in the dive because they would need special training for deep diving. Macleod and his crewmates had air mixes that included helium, and they had to take time coming up for decompression or they would suffer from the bends, or decompression sickness.

John Kenney said the submarine is sitting upright as if it sank straight down. There are no numbers or names on the side, and research shows the only place divers could find the name of the ship is inside the captain's quarters. Instead, they used the five-inch guns - an upgrade from previous subs and a good marker for the Belao class - and the slant of the bow to determine its make.

The teak deck and outer superstructure have deteriorated and been torn away, leaving the pressure hull, the conning tower, and a perfectly preserved light.

Diver Steve Burton drew a sketch showing ruptures to the port-bow area of the pressure hull, which is probably where the Hatsutaka struck.

On the port side, the middle torpedo bow tube remains open. The torpedo is missing.

"It looks like they went down fighting," John Kenney said.

Nancy Kenney hopes to find more Lagarto families so she can relate the news. She said she finally feels as if her father has been laid to rest.

"I can't tell you how wonderful the divers have been - so sensitive to the families," Nancy Kenney said. "They even attached an American flag at the top of the tower. I thought, `God bless them for that.'"


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1 posted on 08/12/2005 11:31:29 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Still on patrol. Thoughts and prayers for them and their families.


2 posted on 08/12/2005 11:32:59 AM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: nickcarraway; snippy_about_it

USS Lagarto (SS-371)


3 posted on 08/12/2005 11:37:19 AM PDT by SAMWolf (You sound reasonable... Time to up my medication.)
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To: Steelerfan

Damn wet monitor.


4 posted on 08/12/2005 11:41:38 AM PDT by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: Steelerfan

Just one of many sub crews still on patrol


5 posted on 08/12/2005 11:43:25 AM PDT by teacherwoes (If you can read this...thank a caring teacher)
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To: Steelerfan

I'll second that.


6 posted on 08/12/2005 11:44:12 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: nickcarraway
More on the USS Lagarto:

Keel laid down by the Manitowoc Shipbuilding Company, Manitowoc, WI 12 January 1944;
Launched 28 May 1944; Sponsored by Mrs. Paul H. Douglas; Commissioned 14 October 1944; Cdr. Frank D. Latta in command.


USS LAGARTO (SS-371), under the command of Cdr. F.D. Latta, departed Subic Bay, P.I. on 12 April 1945, for her second patrol during WWII in the South China Sea. On 27 April, she was directed to the outer part of Siam Gulf.

 LAGARTO contacted USS BAYA (SS-318), already patrolling in Siam Gulf on 2 May 1945, and exchanged calls with her by SJ radar. Later that day BAYA sent LAGARTO a contact report on a convoy she had contacted consisting of one tanker, one auxiliary and two destroyers. LAGARTO soon reported being in contact with the convoy, and began coming in for an attack with BAYA. However, the enemy escorts were equipped with 10 cm radar, and detected BAYA and drove her off with gunfire, whereupon the two submarines decided to wait and plan a subsequent attack.

 Early on the morning of 3 May 1945, LARGARTO and BAYA made a rendezvous at about 7!-55'N;102!-18'E and discussed plans. LAGARTO was to dive on the convoy's tack to make a contact at 1400, while BAYA was to be ten to fifteen miles further along the trank. During the day, numerous contact reports were exchanged. At 0010 on 4 May after a prolonged but unsuccessful attack, BAYA was finally driven off by the alert escorts, and no further contact of any kind was ever made with LAGARTO.

 Japanese information available now records an attack on a U.S. submarine made by the minelayer HATSUTAKA, believed to be one of the two radar-equipped escorts of the convoy attacked. The attack was made at 7!-55'N;102!E in about 30 fathoms of water, and in view of the information presented above, the attack here described must be presumed to be the one which sank LARGARTO.

 This vessel's first patrol was in the Nansei Shoto chain as part of an antipicket boat sweep made by submarines to aid Admiral Halsey's Task Force 38 in getting carrier planes to Japan undetected. She sank the Japanese submarine I-371 on 24 February 1945, and participated in several surface gun attacks with USS HADDOCK II (SS-231) and USS SENNET (SS-408). Two small vessels were sunk and two more damaged in these attacks, and LARGARTO shared credit for the results with these submarines. Cdr. Latta had previously made seven patrols as Commanding Officer of USS NARWHAL II (SS-167). Every patol made by this officer was designated successful for the award of combat insignia, a record surpassed by no commanding officer in the Submarine Force.


Compiled by SUBNET from "Dictionary of American Fighting Ships"
and "U.S. NAVAL SUBMARINE FORCE INFORMATION BOOK '97" -- J. Christley

7 posted on 08/12/2005 11:59:09 AM PDT by FReepaholic (I'd rather hear a fat girl fart than a pretty boy sing.)
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To: nickcarraway

FORASMUCH as it hath pleased Almighty God, in his wise providence, to take out of this world the soul of our deceased brothers, we therefore commit their boies.. looking for the general Resurrection in the last day, and the life of the world to come, through our Lord Jesus Christ; at whose second coming in glorious majesty to judge the world, the earth and the sea shall give up their dead; and the corruptible bodies of those who sleep in him shall be changed, and made like unto his own glorious body; according to the mighty working whereby he is able to subdue all things unto himself.


8 posted on 08/12/2005 12:05:04 PM PDT by brothers4thID (I have knocked on door of this man's soul- and found someone home.)
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To: nickcarraway

I'd stand this Macleod character many beers simply to find out his story. From this article, it looks like he and his team rock.


9 posted on 08/12/2005 12:05:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks for posting this article. My Dad was in the Navy in WWII. He served on an LSM (landing ship medium)in the Pacific. He passed away in 1996 and was always so proud of his service to his country. He always said that his country didn't owe him anything...that he owed his country everything! Miss and love you Dad!! He gave me my love for the USA and our great military.

I am glad that these families finally have some closure after all those years. The greatest generation is leaving us. It's so sad!!


10 posted on 08/12/2005 12:14:01 PM PDT by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats)!")
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To: nickcarraway

What a touching story, and beautiful in a very sad way. May God bless them.


11 posted on 08/12/2005 12:16:01 PM PDT by asp1
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12 posted on 08/12/2005 12:16:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: 1rudeboy; All
Go here for a tour of the USS Bowfin WW II submarine memorial at Pearl Harbor, including pictures of the monuments dedicated to all the submarines still on "eternal patrol" and the brave crews who man them.
13 posted on 08/12/2005 12:16:47 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Doohickey

PING for the discovery of SS 371, USS Lagarto


14 posted on 08/12/2005 12:22:31 PM PDT by Hostel (You can find all of this information on the net. GOD BLESS GOOGLE!)
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Sailors Lost On USS LAGARTO (SS-371) 4-8-1945


Andrews, H. D. CTM
Anker, C. CMOMM
Auchard, F. L. LTJG
Bjornson, C. H. F1
Breithaupt, C. W., Jr. Y2
Britain, W. L. CRMA
Brock, A. S2
Byrer, C. R. F1
Carleton, W. E. RM1
Cathey, L. F. MOMM3
Catozzi, S. G. QM3
Clouse, G. E. TM2
Cook, C. T. MOMM1
Davis, J. E., Jr. TM2
Doud, L. M. RM2
Enns, A. H. TM3
Fisher, R. L. MOMM1
Franze, J. J. S1
Frasch, O. R. MOMM1
Gerlach, J. N. F1
Grace, R. F. F2
Graves, W. QM1
Gray, D. J. EM2
Green, R. STM2
Gregorik, R. L. EM1
Gregory, J. P. S2
Halstead, G. E. RM3
Hardegree, T. MOMM1
Harrington, G. C. MOMM3
Harrington, T. J. MOMM2
Harris, J. B. S1
Harrison, J. C. MOMM3
Hinken, W. E. TM3
Honaker, W. F. EM3
Irving, L. G. LT
Jefferson, H. S1
Jobe, J. CEMA
Johnson, F. S1
Johnson, J. R. CEMA
Jordan, W. H., Jr. S1
Keeney, A. H., Jr. LT
Kimball, P. M. RT1
Kirtley, A. STM1
Kneidl, J. W. MOMM3
Latta, F. D. CDR
Lee, N. B., Jr. S1
Lee, R. W. F1
Lewis, R. J. MOMM2
Lynch, L. J. F1
Mabin, W. T. SM1
Marriot, J. M., Jr. S1
McDonald, J. H. SC2
McGee, J. M. TM2
Mendenhall, W. H. LT
Moore, W. L. F1
Moss, W. G. S1
O'Hara, L. R. RT2
Ortega, H. E. F1
Paper, D. M. S1
Pash, J. S. LTJG
Patterson, R. R. RM3
Perry, R. C. EM3
Peterson, J. W. TM3
Peterson, R. F. QM3
Phelps, W. B. LTJG
Plushnik, H. R. F1
Price, G. A. CMOMMA
Reeves, M. D. EM2
Reichert, R. E. F1
Robinson, E. T. BM1
Root, J. H. MOMM1
Ruble, R. T. LT
Rutledge, W. J. S1
Shackelford, W. C. SM2
Simmerman, R. E. TM2
Spalding, R. B. CPHMA
Stehn, J. E. GM2
Stiegler, D. G. EM2
St. John, U. M., Jr. EM3
Tait, F. MOMM2
Todd, H. A., Jr. LTJG
Turner, F. D. CGM
Wade, A. M. S1
Warnick, W. C. S1
Wicklander, M. M. MOMM2
Williams, J. L. S1

15 posted on 08/12/2005 12:26:06 PM PDT by FReepaholic (I'd rather hear a fat girl fart than a pretty boy sing.)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Lagarto_(SS-371)
16 posted on 08/12/2005 12:30:35 PM PDT by FReepaholic (I'd rather hear a fat girl fart than a pretty boy sing.)
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Honaker, W. F. EM3



He was a distant cousin. The family came from Switzerland in 1749, to Philly, grew and spread west to S.W. Va. I will spread the word, I suspect some folks have wondered were he is. Thanks for posting this.


17 posted on 08/12/2005 12:46:05 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: Cricket24
I am sorry to hear about your Dad, he certainly had the right attitude. In those days it was hard to find anyone that wasn't patriotic. Not like today.

I am 74 and I have said more than one time that people my age have enjoyed the best this country had to offer. I guess its all relative, you go with what you have available.

I remember visiting my Dad in the hospital in his last months and a baseball game came on TV, when they played the National Anthem, as bad as my Dad felt, he got out of bed and just stood there until it was done. Of course I stood up with him. Its funny, it almost appeared like he was getting up for another reason but when I got up, he smiled.

18 posted on 08/12/2005 12:47:08 PM PDT by depenzz
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Thanks


19 posted on 08/12/2005 12:49:27 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Cricket24
I am sorry to hear about your Dad, he certainly had the right attitude. In those days it was hard to find anyone that wasn't patriotic. Not like today.

I am 74 and I have said more than one time that people my age have enjoyed the best this country had to offer. Its all relative, you go with what you have available.

I remember visiting my Dad in the hospital in his last months and a baseball game came on TV, when they played the National Anthem, as bad as my Dad felt, he got out of bed and just stood there until it was done. Of course I stood up with him. Its funny, it almost appeared like he was getting up for another reason but when I got up, he smiled.

20 posted on 08/12/2005 12:50:08 PM PDT by depenzz
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