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Gaza Disengagement/Expulsion Live Thread
FR live thread | 7/14/2005 | none

Posted on 08/14/2005 1:25:44 PM PDT by adam_az

Edited on 08/14/2005 1:28:27 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Live thread for posting breaking news about the Gaza Explulsion which is set to begin within the hour...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: appeasement; arabs; deportation; disengagement; gaza; gushkatif; israel; judenrein; pullout; retreat; squatterremoval; suicide; terrorismpays
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To: adam_az

Gorgeous photos. And this will be trashed in no time. Well, 'the Arab street' will be happy.


101 posted on 08/14/2005 2:35:36 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Marguerite
I haven't been there, but I lived in Tel Aviv.

Well, that explains it. ;-) I thought is was just sand and a few huts too, but then a friend of my actually went there and I got to see the pics. Amazing. I think Adam may have posted a few of 'em here. I'd LOVE to live there, seriously! Beautiful homes with flower gardens all round, and next to the sea? I'M READY TO GO!!!

102 posted on 08/14/2005 2:36:41 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: SevenofNine
How long before LA Style rioting start happening

Holy cow! We have style?

Doubtful it'll happen - It was a rampage through the streets to destroy their own neighborhoods with other minorities defending their businesses, at the point of gunfire in some cases. It'll be a whole different level of rioting if it does happen - especially since folks are better armed than we in LA are.
103 posted on 08/14/2005 2:37:27 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: TAquinas
A better way of putting it would be a "transfer of population" or an even better one, "rectification of frontiers."

Or from Pali view, the "ethnic cleansing" of Gaza. Next stop, the West Bank and Jerusalem.

105 posted on 08/14/2005 2:37:51 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: kingu

hehe...
we'll give land back to the Mexicans, and they in turn can give it back to the Pueblo etc., who can then try to locate the original owners, the Anasazi...


106 posted on 08/14/2005 2:38:03 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Alouette; agrace

It is fitting that the deadline to leave was Tisha B'Av. This is another tragic day for the Jewish people.


107 posted on 08/14/2005 2:38:08 PM PDT by dervish (tagline for rent, inquire within)
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To: hershey
"What does Israel get for leaving the Gaza Strip?"

Moreover, Sharon and Bush agree it's best for Israel to give the occupied lands to their rightful owners.

"I have no regrets," Sharon told the daily Yedioth Ahronoth. "Even if I had known ahead of time the extent of resistance, I would have done it anyway." ----

"I believe the decision that Prime Minister Sharon has made and is going to follow through on will be good for Israel," Bush said, interviewed at his ranch in Crawford, Texas.

108 posted on 08/14/2005 2:39:02 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
we'll give land back to the Mexicans, and they in turn can give it back to the Pueblo etc., who can then try to locate the original owners, the Anasazi...

The "peaceful" Navajo killed every last one of them Anasazi.

109 posted on 08/14/2005 2:39:31 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Yep


110 posted on 08/14/2005 2:39:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Marguerite

You didn't detect the irony in my question.

The Jews capitulated. The Muslims see it as an opening wedge.

Hence, how long?


111 posted on 08/14/2005 2:39:39 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: kingu; Alouette; All

Of course we are famous for two riots Watts riots

And 1992 riots here in SO CAL

I think Israeli settlers are better arm some of them might be IDF veterans


112 posted on 08/14/2005 2:40:12 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: seamole; agrace

"Because he's the FR ACLU, who complains whenever another FReeper dares to post some news article even vaguely related to religion in the "News/Activism" forum."

No, I INITIATED this post.

The caption belonged to a photo which I posted as the first comment. i don't know how it ended up in the post part. it was a sentence fragment which was posted in it's entirety under the photo ALSO, where I intended it to be.

:p


113 posted on 08/14/2005 2:40:47 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az

Thank you, Adam. I've bookmarked this thread.


114 posted on 08/14/2005 2:41:23 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: SevenofNine

I am frankly sick of the praise of the Watts riots this week.


115 posted on 08/14/2005 2:41:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: TAquinas

Jews lived in Gaza before the 1948 war, before Egypt attacked and killed some and expelled the rest. Some of the settlements in Gaza were these very communities. Gaza was Jew-free from 1948 to 1967. It will soon be Jew-free again.


116 posted on 08/14/2005 2:42:32 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: TAquinas

"I have no regrets," Sharon told the daily Yedioth Ahronoth. "Even if I had known ahead of time the extent of resistance, I would have done it anyway." ----

"I believe the decision that Prime Minister Sharon has made and is going to follow through on will be good for Israel," Bush said, interviewed at his ranch in Crawford, Texas.

--

Bush and Sharon are both wrong.

They should know better, and you are gullible.


117 posted on 08/14/2005 2:42:44 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az

BUMP


118 posted on 08/14/2005 2:43:04 PM PDT by Pajamajan ("Where there's life there's hope"-Terri Schindler's message to the world.- Never Forget.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
hehe... we'll give land back to the Mexicans, and they in turn can give it back to the Pueblo etc., who can then try to locate the original owners, the Anasazi...

The strangest scene I've ever seen in my life was when Aztec dancers were invited to give a dinner break performance at a local Chumash powwow and they got up to do their near normal spiel about how this is their land...

And five hundred Chumash, in near uniform voice, replied 'SHUT UP!'

Got even better over at the East Los Angeles College powwow when MECHA was having a go at the mike and a group of twelve Tvonga people (Gabralieno) went and pulled the power cord.

The greatest part is a lot of the more vocal groups keep whining that they're no longer invited to do their dance/fundraising/speaking at local powwows anymore. Love their dance, keep the politics out of the arena.
119 posted on 08/14/2005 2:44:15 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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Is Deporting Jews Acceptable When Israel Does It?
The Ornery American ^ | August 5, 2005 | Lisa Liel

Posted on 08/14/2005 3:34:04 PM MDT by zahal724

If all goes according to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's plans, the Gaza Strip will be emptied of Jews by this time next month. It is tempting to say "cleansed of Jews", but the term has such negative connotations that I hesitate to use it.

The shocking thing has been the absolute silence from human rights advocates. After all, what PM Sharon plans is the mass eviction of a significant population from their homes -- homes in which they have been living peacefully and lawfully for years; homes in which they have built businesses and raised families. Homes, in short, where they have built a life.

The victims of this eviction will be transported to other places, which, they are told, will be safer for them. And arguably, they are without democratic recourse.

In the State of Israel, which is so often touted as "the only democracy in the Middle East", PM Sharon won the last elections by a landslide. It was a one-issue race, and the issue was giving Gaza to the Palestinians. This election was the only chance the Israeli electorate has had to express its will concerning this plan, and the overwhelming majority of the citizenry said: "No".

Not only does the Prime Minister have no mandate for such an unprecedented move against his own people, but he has a solid mandate *against* it. And when his own party, the Likud, demanded a referendum, Sharon, confident in polls which predicted a large margin of victory for him, agreed. More than this; he agreed to accept the results of the referendum as binding.

When the Likud referendum went overwhelmingly against Sharon's plans, he reneged on his public agreement to accept the results. After effectively disenfranchising the Israeli public as a whole, he had also disenfranchised his own party.

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120 posted on 08/14/2005 2:45:14 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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