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U.S. Explorers to Mine Alpine Lake for Nazi Loot (Austria's Lake Toplitz- Full of Nazi Stash?)
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Sunday, August 14, 2005 | Patti McCracken

Posted on 08/15/2005 11:02:53 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Alfred Egner drowned.

He was just a workhorse, really, a 19-year-old boy from Munich, hired by a couple of former SS officers in 1963 to dive down to the murky bottoms of Austria's Lake Toplitz and resurface with fistfuls of treasures secreted away in this alpine paradise.

It wasn't his first dive in Lake Toplitz, but he may have gotten tangled in some of the hundreds of logs that line the bottom, or something may have gone wrong with his equipment.

Regardless, he never retrieved what the two men were most likely looking for: secret codes to Swiss bank accounts, which had been sealed in waterproof tubes and dumped into the lake by Nazis at the end of the war.

The Nazis used Lake Toplitz as a vast, submerged cellar, warehousing millions of dollars' worth of stolen art, gold and jewels, among other things.

This exceptionally beautiful region of Austria, known as Steiermark, is in the heart of the alpine forest, and Hitler and his men thought it a perfect retreat from Allied soldiers, a place in which to hide out and regroup, free from enemy bombers. And also a great place to bury booty.

Egner was not the first to go looking for it. Others started diving for treasure just after the war ended, having seen military trucks dump in crate after crate of mysterious goodies for months and months. The Nazis eventually commissioned locals to do the deed, bringing the crates by oxcart, transports which occurred more and more frequently in the frantic last days of the war.

Two news organizations -- Germany's Stern magazine in the 1950s and CBS News in 2000 -- sent treasure hunters to delve the depths of Lake Toplitz.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alfredegner; alreadyfound; alreadygone; alreadytaken; austria; germany; godsgravesglyphs; laketoplitz; munich; nazi; naziloot; treasure
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1 posted on 08/15/2005 11:02:54 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Are they going to be bringing Geraldo Rivera? I think he needs a new crusade and being trapped at the bottom of a lake seems like a worthy end.


2 posted on 08/15/2005 11:17:38 AM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: nickcarraway

How fascinating!


3 posted on 08/15/2005 11:20:44 AM PDT by joyspring777
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To: nickcarraway

Every few years, since 1945, there's a story about Nazi loot in the Alpine lakes. As far as I know, they've found nothing but counterfeit English money, some munitions, and some assorted trash. I would guess that the people in charge of the loot were smart enough to stash it somewhere they could recover it, not in some bottomless (for all intents and purposes) lake. The story of the Nazi gold train is more interesting, especially the part where all the gold disappears, and nobody knows who the convoy of "US soldiers" who drove off with it really were. Another Skorzeny job?


4 posted on 08/15/2005 11:20:54 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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They'd better watch out. The Nazis buried all sorts of interesting things towards the end, including explosives and poison gas.


5 posted on 08/15/2005 11:23:50 AM PDT by Mountain Troll
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1. Any Swiss bank accounts from WW2 that have been dormant since 1945 have long ago been appropriated by the banks, I would presume.

2. Why would anyone who plans on retrieving the treasure possibly notify the world? If it were me, I wouldn't tell anyone so that I would get to keep the loot.

6 posted on 08/15/2005 11:31:27 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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It makes no sense that someone would hide "codes" at the bottom of a lake.


7 posted on 08/15/2005 12:16:41 PM PDT by rogue yam
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Austria's Lake Toplitz...?

I wonder if they'll run across any Toplitz dancers?

8 posted on 08/15/2005 12:27:05 PM PDT by QuiMundus (Learn, Act, Educate, Repeat - http://www.smithism.com)
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To: bpjam
Are they going to be bringing Geraldo Rivera?

I would suggest being trapped at the bottom of a lake inside Adolph Hilter's personal vault would really be appropriate...

9 posted on 08/15/2005 12:52:13 PM PDT by Peter vE (Ceterum censeo: delenda est Carthago.)
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My partner's father was a captured RAF pilot and he bought a farm in Poland after the war to try and find the treasure he and other prisoners dumped in a lake he remembered. Never found it. Got too old to dive.

E-mail buddy in East Germany is one of a group of tunnel searchers who are similarly looking for treasure. Their holy grail is the "Bernstein Zimmer" stolen from the Russians. The Amber Room. No one has found it, but one of the club members now lives in Costa Rica in luxury. Won't say where he got his money.

There's truth behind the stories.


10 posted on 08/15/2005 1:02:43 PM PDT by JeanLM ((beware the fury of a patient man))
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My partner's father was a captured RAF pilot and he bought a farm in Poland after the war to try and find the treasure he and other prisoners dumped in a lake he remembered. Never found it. Got too old to dive.


...wasn't there a movie already made about sunken treasure in Germany?


Doogle
11 posted on 08/15/2005 1:19:47 PM PDT by Doogle (8th AF...4077thTFW....408MMS....Ubon Thailand "69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO)
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To: Mountain Troll

I remember Hans Blix saying there was a possibility that Saddam buried the WMD underwater. He even said they were considering hiring divers. He mentioned a specific area but I forgot what he said.


12 posted on 08/15/2005 2:24:03 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: nickcarraway

I just read a a Helen McInnes novel about this. The novel is 40 years old. The rumor has been around since the end of The War.


13 posted on 08/15/2005 2:28:07 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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Did it come with a map?


14 posted on 08/15/2005 2:33:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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Yes, but it had been torn out of the book's lining.


15 posted on 08/15/2005 2:35:59 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Rodney King
"1. Any Swiss bank accounts from WW2 that have been dormant since 1945 have long ago been appropriated by the banks, I would presume."

Safe to say. After one generation, old codes to numbered Swiss Accounts, if the Family in question doesn't have *other* active accounts with said bank, are null and void and the deposited sums become property of the bank (in reality, if not in law).

16 posted on 08/15/2005 3:54:42 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: ozzymandus
On of my favorite movies is "Kelly's Heroes" where savvy GI's rush to rob a behind the lines Nazi bank.

Don Rickles and Telly Savalas at their best!

17 posted on 08/15/2005 3:57:43 PM PDT by battlegearboat (proud owner of a red swingline 95)
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To: nickcarraway

read later bump


18 posted on 08/15/2005 5:47:26 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: bpjam
Nope...

none other than Jimmy Hoffa

19 posted on 08/15/2005 5:56:23 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: nickcarraway; BGHater; robowombat; McGruff; tcrlaf; 2ndDivisionVet; StayAt HomeMother; ...
Note: this topic is from 8/15/2005. Thanks nickcarraway.
related: And a more recent treasure story:

20 posted on 09/02/2015 11:01:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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